Negotiations have opened for a fight between calzaghe and woods, apparently.

How odd that you would say this, when the poster you're replying to IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM MENTIONED HOPKINS FIGHTING IN WALES. That's a classic strawman. Not at all, we've all had this same discussion in many multiple threads and im going on facts, ive seen calzaghe quoted as saying he'd go over to america and fight hopkins, then i saw Golden Boy apparently offering 16 million to do the entire fight themselves. Now there's talk of Clinton Woods, no one wants to see that, its not a legacy fight. To the other posters, the same goes for hopkins, if he really waits for Jones, then he is a complete anus also, but dont forget, Hopkins has been pulling the Jones card for years and never cashed in on it, and he flat out ducked jones on national tv imo. But i believe this fight can happen, and i cant take anyone seriously who thinks calzaghe is the draw in america when he is free to air, makes no sense, if he was a draw he would have been on PPV. Lets see what happens, the same kinda thing happened with Hatton and mayweather, and those two sorted it out, these two can do it also, i think hopkins is serious about calzaghe this time, which is why he called him out before the kessler fight, its up to calzaghe to take the lesser money, go over, beat hopkins, and make more money in america.

looks like joe is getting the superfights that he wants LOL

Indeed. Its all just negotiation. I don't know guys. Hopkins has done this shit before in regards to Calzaghe. It looks like a pattern to me. I don't think Hopkins wants to fight Calzaghe under any circumstances. I hope I'm wrong because I'd like to see the fight, but........

its just a ploy to reel Hopkins in... Indeed. Its all just negotiation.

plus hopkins has tsated he wont fight till june/july! which if this is to be calzaghes last year in boxing he wants to fight before then! march/aprl time preferrably! so ideally if hopkins face joe in march/ april! calzaghe could stll face pavlik and either the dawson/woods winner or roy jones before the years out! just another case of hopkins fucking up more big fights than his own

Hopkins aint coming to wales dude, none of the superstars are likely to, cazlaghe said he would go over there and do the fight didnt he? Well Golden Boy seems willing to do terms, and b hop calle him out before the fight with kessler saying calzaghe is next on the list, I think the fight can happen, but calzaghe has to accept that in america hopkins is the name, and the fight will most likely happen in america. Hopkins has been calling him out for weeks, so i hope this clinton woods shit aint true. Yeah well, all excuses aside, it appears that Hopkins' trainer that is advising Bernard to dodge Calzaghe again. Here is the direct quote from the article: "Undisputed super-middleweight champion Calzaghe, 35, targeted American legend Hopkins following his victory over Dane Kessler earlier this month. Warren apparently opened talks with Hopkins' representatives, Golden Boy Promotions, over a possible match in New York in the spring. But Hopkins, a notoriously tough negotiator, has been told by his trainer to forget about a fight with Calzaghe and instead seek a rematch with old rival Roy Jones Jr." ---------------------- Exactly as I predicted.

Hopkins seems reluctant despite golden boy offering 16 million to do the fight next year? And hopkins has been calling out calzaghe for weeks, and publically called him out on HBO. You sure he is reluctant? The offer, if it is genuine, is one that relies on two people agreeing to it - Frank Warren and Joe Calzaghe. I doubt Warren would agree to the stipulations in the contract and depending on Calzaghe's current situation with TV companies in the UK it may be unworkable.

Hopkins aint coming to wales dude, none of the superstars are likely to, cazlaghe said he would go over there and do the fight didnt he? Well Golden Boy seems willing to do terms, and b hop calle him out before the fight with kessler saying calzaghe is next on the list, I think the fight can happen, but calzaghe has to accept that in america hopkins is the name, and the fight will most likely happen in america. Hopkins has been calling him out for weeks, so i hope this clinton woods shit aint true. Yea theres "calling out" and theres calling out, calzaghe has said he'd go over there but not for an unfair cut, he'll just fight someone else, as much as id like to see calz batter hopkins into retirement id rather see him in a good fight like dawson or pavlik, but as he said hes sick of boiling down for opponents.

no ones actually give a source for that 16 mil claim, and calzaghes been calling hopkins out for 6 years, hes just going to price himself out of the fight. Hopkins aint coming to wales dude, none of the superstars are likely to, cazlaghe said he would go over there and do the fight didnt he? Well Golden Boy seems willing to do terms, and b hop calle him out before the fight with kessler saying calzaghe is next on the list, I think the fight can happen, but calzaghe has to accept that in america hopkins is the name, and the fight will most likely happen in america. Hopkins has been calling him out for weeks, so i hope this clinton woods shit aint true.

Hopkins seems reluctant despite golden boy offering 16 million to do the fight next year? And hopkins has been calling out calzaghe for weeks, and publically called him out on HBO. You sure he is reluctant? no ones actually give a source for that 16 mil claim, and calzaghes been calling hopkins out for 6 years, hes just going to price himself out of the fight.

He does but Hopkins seems reluctant and I'm guessing that Warren knows the fight isn't going to happen. Hopkins seems reluctant despite golden boy offering 16 million to do the fight next year? And hopkins has been calling out calzaghe for weeks, and publically called him out on HBO. You sure he is reluctant?

Cal vs Tarver!:banana:

What happened to calzaghe wanting to fight hopkins? Hopkins has been calling him out for weeks, thought calzaghe wanted to go to america and fight? we all know hopkins doesn't want to fight calzaghe, hes calling him out so he doesn't lose face.

What happened to calzaghe wanting to fight hopkins? Hopkins has been calling him out for weeks, thought calzaghe wanted to go to america and fight? He does but Hopkins seems reluctant and I'm guessing that Warren knows the fight isn't going to happen.

I'll give Clinton Woods his dues, he is looking to take on tough fights by talking about Calzaghe and Dawson but he is way out his depth in my opinion. What happened to calzaghe wanting to fight hopkins? Hopkins has been calling him out for weeks, thought calzaghe wanted to go to america and fight?

Its not a bad fight and it is for a title at LH I suppose. Woods is a top class operator, but a small part of me always struggles to really rate him after the way he was embarrassed by RJJ. That's a bit unfair though that was prime RJJ.

Fighting Chad Dawson in the U.S. would get him a lot less money. Hopkins doesnt want to fight, and Pavlik/Taylor wont be available until July or August. No other options out there or him. That's why I find this a reasonable fight for his first stint at 175.

In respect to Joe Calzaghe, Clinton Woods is a joke. Thats almost as stupid as saying Ali should have fought a 5 year old child. I'll give Clinton Woods his dues, he is looking to take on tough fights by talking about Calzaghe and Dawson but he is way out his depth in my opinion.

its just a ploy to reel Hopkins in...

i said it all along