Everyone is automatically writing him off at this stage of a prospect fight/match up. Because there are five facts that need to be pointed out.
1. Hopkins will fight dirtier than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced.
2. Hopkins uses more angles than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced.
3. Hopkins is the best counter puncher Calzaghe has ever faced, and certainly since he fought Robin Reid.
4. Hopkins has shown the ability to win against better opposition. I don't think we have to clarify this........Hopkins has beaten 4 Superstar/Champion fighters.
5. Hopkins is without a doubt, the smartest fighter Calzaghe has ever faced.
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No Roy Jones Jr. was his toughest test. Tough since 1994 are u fucking kidding me. Thats good for Bernard that Cazaghe will be throwing that many punches the more he throws the more he'll be able to counter. And Kessler your actually trying to compare the two lol. Probably his biggest upset was destroying Trinidad everyone said he'd be too old for that too and wouldnt be able to handle his power and output. I'm not saying this fight will be like that one cause fighting is like chemistry just because a + b=c doesn't mean a+d will have the same results. I hate when people try to do that.
So............. acting makes you a Good Boxer???????
Are you saying Antonio Tarver wasn't a good Boxer? lol.
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My ass.
he was the Ring's #1 fighter, Undisputed LHW Champ and was fucking Stallone's opponent in the new Rocky.
So............. acting makes you a Good Boxer???????
tarver is not a superstar.
My ass.
he was the Ring's #1 fighter, Undisputed LHW Champ and was fucking Stallone's opponent in the new Rocky.
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Everyone is automatically writing him off at this stage of a prospect fight/match up. Because there are five facts that need to be pointed out.
1. Hopkins will fight dirtier than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced.
2. Hopkins uses more angles than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced.
3. Hopkins is the best counter puncher Calzaghe has ever faced, and certainly since he fought Robin Reid.
4. Hopkins has shown the ability to win against better opposition. I don't think we have to clarify this........Hopkins has beaten 4 Superstar/Champion fighters.
5. Hopkins is without a doubt, the smartest fighter Calzaghe has ever faced.
3 smaller superstars and tarver is not a superstar.
joe will be the best boxer bernard has ever faced besides roy jones that is not smaller than him
Azza. Come on.
There's no possible way you can compare an awkward C class puncher to one of the greatest ring tacticians the sport has ever seen.
I though you didnt have any respect For Eubank? :lol1:
I never picked Kessler. I clearly thought Calzaghe being the better fighter would simply out point him. And that happened.
Kessler is overrated, and his 3 biggest wins (Green, Beyer and Mundine) were like smoke and mirrors due to the quality of those fighters in reality.
Did you just compare Eubank at his old age to Hopkins?
Don't you think that's a bit strange taking into consideration what Hopkins has been able to achieve at his age? That's not even debatable, really.
Didn't Eubank lose to Steve Collins right before he fought Calzaghe? lol.
You're the man.
Eubank was 31 when he fought Calzaghe.. and YES I COMPARED them.. You said he has never faced anyone with B-Hops Traits.. Are you going to tell me Eubank didn't have those very same tarits? Plus are you going to tell me B-Hop has MORE power than Eubank.. I mean Thats the ONLY way they dont compare.. Eubank hit much harder..
Didn't Hopkins lose to Taylor.. Twice .. Before his Potential showdown with JC?
What does having a Loss have to do with it...????
If Calzaghe beat a 31 year old Eubank.. He can and will most likey Beat a 43 year Old Hopkins..
You know where to bet your points if this Fight comes off..:fing02:
Never count Hopkins out. It's amazing what he's been doing at his age & the level he's fighting at. Hopkins is the Jedi Master of taking away an opponents strengths & making them fight his fight. Cal is a good fighter but let's be honest; Kessler is no Hopkins. Hopkins has better defense, a better counter puncher, solid chin, a dirty fighter, & has a mean streak in him. Cal could beat him but unless Hopkins gets old overnight; he takes a UD in one of the most ugly fights in recent history.
I think alot are forgetting who the Bernard Hopkins of today is.
He is an actor more then a real fighter-look at his pre-fight tango with Wink...was all fabricated bullshit.
Somehow GBP and Nard tried to tell us CULT fans that Winky vs. Bernard was the fight we wanted to see? This was a fight no real fan of the sport wanted to see but it got thrown on us why? Cuz Wink was a guy Bernard was in safe against-could Wink of outpointed Nard had the weight of been right-sure he could have but it was safe in terms of damage, Bernard had nothing to fear-yet the boxing public was sold this bullshit by an actor not a fighter.
Nard got the perfect opponent in Toney Tarver, lazy, fat, one dimensional and best of all a quitter. Tarver quit in the first Harding fight, you can make a case there were times he quit in the first Jones fight with a guy in front of him that had nothing and after the third round he certainly quit against Nard. This fight is fools gold and should do nothing with regards to opinions of Calzaghe v. Hopkins..this was a fight that pitted actor vs. actor.
Now he has a legit Undisputed World Champ in front of him that appears to be in his prime, this isnt an a bullshit fight at some bullshit 170 pound weight, hes not fighting some one punch crack head quitter in Tarver, there will be no need to shove Joe in the build up for some extra dollars in the pockets...this is a real fight against a real fighter.
As much as Joe was up for Lacy and Kessler the prize for him has always been Bernard ALWAYS-I think after watching what he did in those fights it is pretty clear how he will perform in what Joe believes to be his REAL defining fight.
Joe in a clear UD.
Bernard is not "not attractive" he is ugly.
And even Bernard said "If the people of Wales want their champion to still look handsome then tell him to stay at home"
So this means Hopkins thinks Calzaghe looks handsome.
......& I'm sure you agree.
Tell me, if you found out Joe was hung like a mouse, would you think less of him ? Would you give Hopkins a better shot at him ?
bika was a very dirty fighter and throws punches from all sorts of angles
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Azza. Come on.
There's no possible way you can compare an awkward C class puncher to one of the greatest ring tacticians the sport has ever seen.
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Bernard is not "not attractive" he is ugly.
And even Bernard said "If the people of Wales want their champion to still look handsome then tell him to stay at home"
So this means Hopkins thinks Calzaghe looks handsome.
bika was a very dirty fighter and throws punches from all sorts of angles
i aint sure who would win this, i would favour hopkins but a few fights ago i promised myself never to bet against calzaghe again :lol1:
No he needed the help of the judges to get a the nod in a very close fight against a guy like Winky. He also fought very dirty and skill pure wise Winky was the better man. But Calzaghe is faster, bigger, has more stamina, has more talent....... than WInky.
I really think Joe will knock out Ugly Bernard. I wouldn't bet on a knockout because as soon as The Ugly One realizes tha Calzaghe is the better man he will try to spoil this fight buy holding and butting. Anyway Calzaghe will win, he would have beaten Bernard p4p so Americans ugliest priced himself out.
I would make Calzaghe the slight favorite, though it's foolish to count Hopkins out- especially if he can lure Joe over to the States.
TonyJ-
So, you find Calzaghe attractive, but not Hopkins? Thank you for sharing that info with us here in a boxing forum.
Its been 44 fights now.. everyone has already tried everything on the guy.. Kessler was talking like he was the 1st STRAIGHT puncher Joe had ever faced...:wtf1:
I never picked Kessler. I clearly thought Calzaghe being the better fighter would simply out point him. And that happened.
Kessler is overrated, and his 3 biggest wins (Green, Beyer and Mundine) were like smoke and mirrors due to the quality of those fighters in reality.
Now for your claims about B-Hop... Have you ever heard of Chris Eubank??? This Guy was awkward and would punch from all angles... He was A master counter puncher.. He was Dirty as hell and very clever about WHEN to be dirty.. He beat many Superstar Champs also.. He destroyed more than a few of them along the way.. I mean Wheelchair destroyed them..LITTERALY.. meaning he had Power on top of all His B-Hopish Traits.. OH and he was as Ring smart as B-Hop as well..if NOT smarter.. AND please dont give me.. Yeah Buy Eubank was past his Best.. B-Hop is 43 ...Nuff said
Did you just compare Eubank at his old age to Hopkins?
Don't you think that's a bit strange taking into consideration what Hopkins has been able to achieve at his age? That's not even debatable, really.
Didn't Eubank lose to Steve Collins right before he fought Calzaghe? lol.
Still love ya Run... :kiss:
You're the man.
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