Klitschko versus Haye

What don't you like about The Blow?! He's exciting, has quick hands, has (eventually) fought the best fighters in his divison and unified it, and is now on his way to the States to fight Hopkins (if his cunt of a promoter will allow it!) As for Audrey Harrison, I don't think many Brits did like him after about 10 fights, once we figured out he was pretty fuckin terrified of being punched. But like a rugby player being afraid of mud or a swimmer being afraid of water. Its hard to say man, mainly the way he throws his punches i think, just duznt look right! Dont get me wrong i rate him, and i'll say this i think he would hav always fought any1! Its that cunt WARREN :firedevil I didnt realise u were still rockin the Fuck Frank Warren sig, I'll throw mine back up! It aint just The Blow i dont like Manny Pac either and know i should!

Not me mate, i knew he was a bum! And i dont like Zag, any heavys (bar Bruno but i knew his limits!) and i HATE and i mean HATE Witter! :firedevil But Haye is for real! Mabey not as a heavy but mabey just mabey :boxing: What don't you like about The Blow?! He's exciting, has quick hands, has (eventually) fought the best fighters in his divison and unified it, and is now on his way to the States to fight Hopkins (if his cunt of a promoter will allow it!) As for Audrey Harrison, I don't think many Brits did like him after about 10 fights, once we figured out he was pretty fuckin terrified of being punched. But like a rugby player being afraid of mud or a swimmer being afraid of water.

Are you British? you guys have a bad habit of overhyping your fighters, look no further than Fraudley Harrison, you Limey's said he was supposed to beat Wlad too. Not me mate, i knew he was a bum! And i dont like Zag, any heavys (bar Bruno but i knew his limits!) and i HATE and i mean HATE Witter! :firedevil But Haye is for real! Mabey not as a heavy but mabey just mabey :boxing:

Are you British? you guys have a bad habit of overhyping your fighters, look no further than Fraudley Harrison, you Limey's said he was supposed to beat Wlad too. yeah im british so what?? i never rated audley harrison and if wlad and audley ever fought somebody should call the police cus we'd have a murder on our hands. i also dont buy into amir kahn, i think he will be exposed and i think earl can possibly upset him in their upcoming fight. you seem so defensive about wlad... he's not super human, we have seen what speed and power can do to him

mate listen i dont wanna get into an argument with you, im new here. i respect wlad as a fighter i think he has great skills. the point of the thread was to say that i think haye could be a heavyweight threat in a couple of years. your man wlad is at the top of the heap right now and i expect him to be there for a while.... i think haye can be a threat to him though, his speed and power will be VERY dangerous. we're all entitled to an opinion, just chill Are you British? you guys have a bad habit of overhyping your fighters, look no further than Fraudley Harrison, you Limey's said he was supposed to beat Wlad too.

Stop wasting your time nuthugging that FRAUD David Haye. He isn't even a top fuckin Cruiserweight, Enzo Macc,Mormeck,O'Niel Bell and Tomas Adamek would all beat him. Wlad would KO Haye in the 1st round and Haye would be unconscious for 20 minutes. Haye is THE Best Cruiser weight on the planet! As for a 1 round KO loss to Wlad? Possibly, id hope not, lets see ow his chin holds up at the wieght 1st coz lets not get it twisted Haye can put any1 to sleep including the number1 heavy Wlad! I aint saying he will but time will tell

Stop wasting your time nuthugging that FRAUD David Haye. He isn't even a top fuckin Cruiserweight, Enzo Macc,Mormeck,O'Niel Bell and Tomas Adamek would all beat him. Wlad would KO Haye in the 1st round and Haye would be unconscious for 20 minutes. mate listen i dont wanna get into an argument with you, im new here. i respect wlad as a fighter i think he has great skills. the point of the thread was to say that i think haye could be a heavyweight threat in a couple of years. your man wlad is at the top of the heap right now and i expect him to be there for a while.... i think haye can be a threat to him though, his speed and power will be VERY dangerous. we're all entitled to an opinion, just chill

hmm very poetically put. stop getting so angry, i've already said that wlad at this point in time would murder haye. but anyone who suggests that haye has no chance at all in a few years at heavyweight of winning a genuine world title is wrong. he has all the physical attributes needed. his chin needs testing, but being a wlad fan you'll already know plenty about that. lets see what happens, but i think speed and power isn't a bad combination against wlad Stop wasting your time nuthugging that FRAUD David Haye. He isn't even a top fuckin Cruiserweight, Enzo Macc,Mormeck,O'Niel Bell and Tomas Adamek would all beat him. Wlad would KO Haye in the 1st round and Haye would be unconscious for 20 minutes.

HAYE IS A FRAUD, Enzo Macc would also KO Haye at Crusierweight. Don't ever mention Haye in the same sentence as Wlad again you fuckin twat. hmm very poetically put. stop getting so angry, i've already said that wlad at this point in time would murder haye. but anyone who suggests that haye has no chance at all in a few years at heavyweight of winning a genuine world title is wrong. he has all the physical attributes needed. his chin needs testing, but being a wlad fan you'll already know plenty about that. lets see what happens, but i think speed and power isn't a bad combination against wlad

no my man your a biased nuthugger who in previous posts has claimed wlad would compete with and probably beat the majority of past great heavyweights. at this moment in time wlad would beat haye. but given a couple of years, witht he necessary improvements and maturation into the division haye will cause your man serious problems HAYE IS A FRAUD, Enzo Macc would also KO Haye at Crusierweight. Don't ever mention Haye in the same sentence as Wlad again you fuckin twat.

I love David Haye but we need to see him in action more at Heavyweight before we know just how good he can be. One thing is for sure he has plenty of Speed and power. It is whether he can take a shot from a real Heavyweight. I hope he can ....but I am not passing judgment until I see him tested. He was very impressive in destroying Bonin but Bonin is barely Euro level. Have a look at him for those of you who haven't seen him. This man just said everything id like to! I will Root for him against any1 but lets see how he duz

You're a retard, David Haye would get KO'd by the first steelhammer right hand from Wlad. Wlad is one of the most talented Heavyweights of all time and this thread is a disgusting insult. Haye is a FRAUD. Wlad vs Haye - Wlad KO 1 no my man your a biased nuthugger who in previous posts has claimed wlad would compete with and probably beat the majority of past great heavyweights. at this moment in time wlad would beat haye. but given a couple of years, witht he necessary improvements and maturation into the division haye will cause your man serious problems

This fight is a while off, at least a couple of years would be my guess. But who thinks Haye once he has established himself at heavyweight can take Wladimir's crown?? I think haye has a great chance. He is incredibly athletic, has great handspeed, very good combinations and with the added weight can only assume that his stamina should hopefully improve. I see this fight similar to the Sanders fight where handspeed and raw power do for Wladimir.... what are your thoughts guys?? You're a retard, David Haye would get KO'd by the first steelhammer right hand from Wlad. Wlad is one of the most talented Heavyweights of all time and this thread is a disgusting insult. Haye is a FRAUD. Wlad vs Haye - Wlad KO 1

I dont even think Haye will beat Mormeck. If any of you Brits want to bet, I'll put 20k down.

First ....he never got KO'ed. Second he was in his 11th fight against a Very Wily solid fighter in Carl "The Cat" Thompson who had some good names on his record. Haye ran out of Gas in that fight and has since addressed those stamina issues. He was spending too much time modelling and parading instead of knuckling down back then The Thompson loss was the making of him. He has since grown naturally into the frame we see today and will have much more power and hydration at heavyweight whilst keeping his speed. He stopped Bonin legitimately in the first round and Fraudley Harrison could only get a controversial stoppage in round 9. As far as the British scene goes that puts him right in the mix. At 27 he is still as Heavyweights go , coming into his best years. I am not saying he is going to clean out the Heavyweight division but he will have some good wins and ... HE ALWAYS COMES TO FIGHT. The guy gives value for money. I for one can't wait to see him. He has a lot of potential and he is Hungry. One to watch IMO. great points mate. people are far too quick to put a fighter in the gutter nowadays when he loses... people like barera, moseley, lewis, hopkins all lost and they came back better and stronger. haye was only young when he fought thompson and he's a completely different fighter. it will be exciting to have another british heavyweight in the mix and i'll be hoping he makes the transition from cruiser to heavy well.... after he knocks mormeck out hopefully!!

I'd file him under the "weight drained heavyweight" category rather than "blown up cruiserweight" personally. He'll need to be careful not to blow himself up too much, which I rather worry he might ... it's what tends to happen. I know what you mean by "fights like an amateur" and people do buy into the hype because he looks very flashy and has a good KO %. Granted he has flaws, particularly defensively as you've alluded to where he can be pretty easy to hit, and he is clearly overrated by some but he does have some genuine offensive skills which will be even better when he tightens them up, which he'll need to do. If he doesn't improve I agree he'll be dominated by anyone half competent, although I'd be surprised if that includes any of that domestic shower of shit. i said myself that Haye has defensive frailtys thats why i said i think Enzo would currently beat him he does make Ameteur mistakes but that is the reason people have said that currently he is not ready in a few years he has the ability to be what he wants to be the Ameteur mistakes he makes were evident in his last fight with Bonin when he hurt Bonin and he smoothered his work instead of picking his shots but that can be ironed out, lennox Lewis had a lot of frailtys when he started out did'nt have the best chin either ,hell Lenny got outboxed by Frank Bruno no one is over hyping him they are excited about the ability he has

agreed about enzo mate, plus his chin would be a massive issue at that weight and i only think it would be a matter of time before he had his lights switched off I think his recent fights against Dominguez, Hobson and Braithwaite have put to bed my lingering doubts over his chin. Enzo's big problem previously was that he was all left hook and nothing else and got caught hard and often because of a blatant disregard for the basics, defence and his own personal safety. I've really been impressed by his development in the Calzaghe stable. If Mormeck comes through his bout with Haye (which I predict he will, possibly by late stoppage), I'd love to see a proper unification fight between the two.

I'd file him under the "weight drained heavyweight" category rather than "blown up cruiserweight" personally. He'll need to be careful not to blow himself up too much, which I rather worry he might ... it's what tends to happen. I know what you mean by "fights like an amateur" and people do buy into the hype because he looks very flashy and has a good KO %. Granted he has flaws, particularly defensively as you've alluded to where he can be pretty easy to hit, and he is clearly overrated by some but he does have some genuine offensive skills which will be even better when he tightens them up, which he'll need to do. If he doesn't improve I agree he'll be dominated by anyone half competent, although I'd be surprised if that includes any of that domestic shower of shit.

Carlos Maussa is not that bad , he is a the rubber man but really vurniable against short left hooks but in straight punch he could easly move away from. he has far inferior Technique than Haye

Well Chris Eubank had the worst Technique ive ever seen his attacking Boxing was awfull & he was a World Champion ,Carlos Maussa ,Ricardo Mayorga ,Pacquiao the list goes on & on and im not even saying Haye has bad technique a blown up Cruserweight ,Holyfield ,Moorer ,Spinks funnily enough all heavweight Champions eh,and Spinks and Moorer both had questionable chins again im not even saying that Haye does have a questionable chin ,Moorer ,Spinks were Champions in a Much more competitive ERA than Today so what is so outlandish to say in a few years Haye could beat Vlad or at least be a Heavyweight Champion Carlos Maussa is not that bad , he is a the rubber man but really vurniable against short left hooks but in straight punch he could easly move away from.