I believe that Calzaghe is the number 1 p4p fighter in boxing hands down. He is the greatest Super Middleweight of all time and he has been the champ for over 10 years with 21 title defences. Joe wins his superfights convincingly and leaves no doubt about who the winner is, are you listening Mayweather. Joe has a mixture of Floyd's skills and Pacquiao's speed and aggression, he is a far more complete fighter than Floyd and Pacman. Unfortunately, the Nationalist Ring p4p rankings will keep Floyd at #1 and Pacman at #2 because they're predjudiced against European fighters. The Ring needs to realize that Europe has taken over boxing and will continue to dominate for the rest of existence.
Dude, firstly great win for Joe Calz against Kessler. However He has fought ONLY 2 champions or undefeated top fighters, Jeff Lacey and Kessler. He won his first belt in a vacancy fight. Warren then milked Joe for 35 fights.
PBF and Pac have by FAR fought the tougher and more dangerous competition.
Pac:
Barrera, Morales, JMM > Jeff Lacey, Kessler (Eubank was shot when Joe beat him).
PBF:
Corrales, Castillo, DLH (impressive because of weight fought at), Hernandez, Chavez (very dangerous and highly touted at time of fight), Zab
Joe:
Lacey, Kessler, whats his next best win? Robin Reid.
The Blow is the undisputed super m/w champion as we all know.
He is better than any american smw and this is the reason why so many americans fail to acknowledge who the true p4p #1 really is. But hey the rest of us all know !
scarcasm? lol ever thought of becoming a lexicographer (a dude that writes dictionaries innit)
I wanted to, but i cant spell, so i cant,
Then again, you must be really intelligent, thinking of such a creative user name like 'Me 2007'
What you gonna do in 2008?
Spend more user points on changing your name?
Or go out of Date faster than a shabba ranks haircut?
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Im glad your not old enough to understand scarcasm, and for what it worth, i really hope the rumors arent true and that you are not canada joe, cos that would be a shame.
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scarcasm? lol ever thought of becoming a lexicographer (a dude that writes dictionaries innit)
I'm glad you agree with me that Calzaghe is the p4p #1 fighter in boxing:D
Im glad your not old enough to understand scarcasm, and for what it worth, i really hope the rumors arent true and that you are not canada joe, cos that would be a shame.
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This was the best bit, seriously dude, your a talented writer, ever thought of writing For chris Rock? apparently he is looking for some new material.
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I'm glad you agree with me that Calzaghe is the p4p #1 fighter in boxing:D
Only 1 question: why do people keep on calling the boxing matches Mayweather is in lately: FIGHTS?
As action loving fan I suggest they should change the rules and stop counting punches thrown in reverse.
Joe has a mixture of Floyd's skills and Pacquiao's speed and aggression, he is a far more complete fighter than Floyd and Pacman.
This was the best bit, seriously dude, your a talented writer, ever thought of writing For chris Rock? apparently he is looking for some new material.
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Dude answer me this question, do you consider the Eubank fight one of Joe's top 3 fights?
Eubank is one of the best super middleweights ever. JC was relatively inexperienced when he fought Eubank, the fact that he floored Eubank and outboxed him over 12 rounds makes it his number 1 in my opinion
And DLH had fought how many fighters in the past 2 and a half years before Mayweather?
Better fighters than Kessler fought.. The main point being that he was a n all around p4p better fighter.
Which fights have you seen and what aspect of Eubank was not as impressive?
Dude answer me this question, do you consider the Eubank fight one of Joe's top 3 fights?
Eubank was a shadow of himself and wasn't fighting 1/2 as good as he was previously. Perhaps not shot but it was not impressive to me.
Which fights have you seen and what aspect of Eubank was not as impressive?
LOL Eubank loses to collins twice on points and is considered shot.
seriously, an example of a shot fighter is someone like GATTI. Eubank was never shot. He wasn't at his peak when he fought JC, but shot? who are yo u trying to kid .
Eubank was a shadow of himself and wasn't fighting 1/2 as good as he was previously. Perhaps not shot but it was not impressive to me.
I hold Calz win over Eubank in the same level as I hold DLH's win over Chavez.
I dont think anyone, even Calz fans hold the Eubank fight as terribly impressive. I bet none of his fans would even rate it as one of Joe's top 3 wins. I would put the Robin Read win way ahead.
Calz= great ability + poor managing. He has shown the ability to compete against the best but Frank screwed him over with lower tier fighters, that isn't dissing Joe thats being honest and his fans should be able to objectively recognize this.
Well, Eubanks ,
was washed up..
P4p is a "what have you done for me lately" issue. What has Floyd done for us lately that compares to Calzaghe? Answer:
Well, I believe DLH was ranked higher p4p at the time of the Mayweather fight than Kessler at the time of the Calz fight, so obviously Mayweather has done more LATELY. When he beats down Hatton, this will further solidify the point.:)
Are you Canada Joe??
People always ask me that, who the fuck is Canada Joe ? I read these forums for a few months before I finally joined on Sept.1 under the username of Wlad Owns. I don't make Alt accounts.
They don't mean anything to YOU for obvious reasons already addressed.:)
Well, Eubanks aside..(truly formidable), Joe has made serious in-roads to greatness in his last two fights...ie..Lacey and Kessler. P4p is a "what have you done for me lately" issue. What has Floyd done for us lately that compares to Calzaghe? Answer: Not much.
No, I disagree with you not just because your biased, but because you are wrong. Calzaghe definitely deserves to be ranked higher than Floyd at this point in time. After the Hatton fight, we can re-assess.
First off I have little respect for guys who use the word "ownage or pwned". Secondly Eubank was shot, he lost 2 of his 3 fights before Joe and lost the 2 fights after Joe.
What would you call that? A prime Eubank......please, I'm not attempting to take anything away from Joe's ABILITY.......but you guys should look to Frank Warren when seeing how little top competition Joe has faced.
I said it before, Frank Warren is horrible for boxing and has hampered Joe's career.
LOL Eubank loses to collins twice on points and is considered shot.
seriously, an example of a shot fighter is someone like GATTI. Eubank was never shot. He wasn't at his peak when he fought JC, but shot? who are yo u trying to kid .
LMAO talk about self-ownage
First off I have little respect for guys who use the word "ownage or pwned". Secondly Eubank was shot, he lost 2 of his 3 fights before Joe and lost the 2 fights after Joe.
What would you call that? A prime Eubank......please, I'm not attempting to take anything away from Joe's ABILITY.......but you guys should look to Frank Warren when seeing how little top competition Joe has faced.
I said it before, Frank Warren is horrible for boxing and has hampered Joe's career.
grow up. Stop spouting media buzz words like P4P and HALL OF FAME, they dont mean shit.
They don't mean anything to YOU for obvious reasons already addressed.:)