I just saw Allan Green's last fight against Sherwin Davis. A 2nd round KO. I think all the knockdowns were with the left hook, which didn't look especially good to me as they were thrown with the arms rather than the body. So, Davis didn't seem to have a great chin and I don't know how much can be gleaned from his first fight after having 85% of his colon removed.
Anyway, I read an interview with Green after the Pavlik-Taylor fight and this is what he had to say about it:
"I think Jermain could have easily won the fight, I thought Pavlik was tailor made for him, but Jermain Taylor is indicate skill wise. Jermain Taylor is not a go-getter, he is fast and has talent but there are a lot of things he really needs to work on. His defense is his offense, all he knows to do is when people gets on him is to throw punches, but he does not throw punches to attack but to get people off of him. He has been fighting like that since the first Hopkins fight. He got Pavlik hurt and did not know how to finish him. He threw a lot of amateur punches. I think he was nervous, it was not the fact that Pavlik weathered the storm but because of Jermain’s inadequacies to finish Kelly Pavlik off, and when he couldn’t I think it bothered him mentally. Even a second-rate fighter would of ended Pavlik if they had him in that condition. I have the utmost respect for Kelly, he is not the most talented guy and he will admit that, but he is in tremendous shape and has tremendous determination and that is why I respect him.
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AG: I would love to fight Pavlik, I dream about that fight."
This got me to wondering who would win this fight. The only common opponent I could find was Edison Miranda who decisioned Green and who Pavlik knocked out, but of course Green was unhealthy at the time. I think it would be a good fight and Green would certainly have a chance to win it, but I am going to say Pavlik by late stoppage. In any event I wouldn't see it going the distance. Who do you think would win and why?
Great. Dickhead quote. Whatever.
Anyways, you didn't answer my argument that Green took a ton of flush shots from Miranda before he went down in the 10th... Why would Pavlik be any different? After all Pavlik beat a dried out, sick Miranda who had a fever... nothing against the victory, I'm just saying that Green took a lot harder punches from Miranda than Pavlik had to.
You need to rewatch that fight, Green was running like a coward the whole fight and he wasn't really getting hit with any real flush shots until the 10th round.
Green spent the first 9 rounds trying to survive, not fight. He was rolling with most of Miranda's punches and blocking most of them. When Miranda finally landed his money right hand Green went down.
Pavlik went toe to toe with Miranda and he took a lot of hard flush shots without flinching before he KTFO Miranda.
Don't give me those bullshit excuses about Miranda being sick and weight drained. Pavlik has a harder time than anybody making 160 and you don't see him complaining. I lost a lot of respect for Miranda when he made those pussy ass excuses.
I don't have any respect for Allan Green at all, his cowardly display against Miranda was disgusting and I hope he fights Pavlik so he can get knocked out in 2 rounds.
Common Dweins, everyone knows that Allan Green would get murdered by Pavlik, I hope Pavlik will still be the same fighter after he takes Greens life, another Youngstown boy Ray Mancini had a tough time dealing with killing that Korean guy in the ring.
R.I.P. Allan Green :banana:
Great. Dickhead quote. Whatever.
Anyways, you didn't answer my argument that Green took a ton of flush shots from Miranda before he went down in the 10th... Why would Pavlik be any different? After all Pavlik beat a dried out, sick Miranda who had a fever... nothing against the victory, I'm just saying that Green took a lot harder punches from Miranda than Pavlik had to.
Why the hell does everyone think Allan Green has a weak chin? Does that mean Edison Miranda is not a puncher? Because Allan took a ton of his shots before finally giving in in the 10th.
This fight would be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy closer than the poll indicates.
I'm still the only person to pick Pavlik by decision. I think if Green doesn't try to go toe-to-toe, he can survive and lose a close decision.
Lord, it's like you all think Pavlik is the second coming of Julian Jackson with his power.
Common Dweins, everyone knows that Allan Green would get murdered by Pavlik, I hope Pavlik will still be the same fighter after he takes Greens life, another Youngstown boy Ray Mancini had a tough time dealing with killing that Korean guy in the ring.
R.I.P. Allan Green :banana:
Why the hell does everyone think Allan Green has a weak chin? Does that mean Edison Miranda is not a puncher? Because Allan took a ton of his shots before finally giving in in the 10th.
This fight would be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy closer than the poll indicates.
I'm still the only person to pick Pavlik by decision. I think if Green doesn't try to go toe-to-toe, he can survive and lose a close decision.
Lord, it's like you all think Pavlik is the second coming of Julian Jackson with his power.
You don't really believe that do you? If so, can you explain how?
Only a nuthugging Mayweather fan could predict such a thing imo.
If Mayweather could box Pavlik and weather the storm if he was hurt I don't think it's that out of the realm of possibility. I do admit though the main reason I said that was to piss off people and the easiest way to do that is to play up Mayweather.
Let's not forget Green was almost Ko'd by Miranda and should thank his lucky stars it was only a 10 round fight otherwise he would have been stopped. We all know what happened to Miranda against Pavlik and although I'm no advocate of triangular logic when it comes to boxing; a stoppage win for Pavlik would be almost a certainly considering the short work he made of Allan Green's conqueror.
I would agree with you, but Pavlik showed me that he is not to be easily outboxed... he has some pretty good ability to go along with his power.
All this Pavlik KO1 against anyone shit is getting on my nerves.
i agree. and green does not move enough either.
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how the fuck is jaidon suppose to win the contender if Sakio Bika is better then Jaidon and has fought ppl like joe calzaghe and bute
I forgot about Bika, sorry I haven't really been following the show. Bika still has to get past the semifinal and if he does he will KO Jaidon. I am changing my pick from Jaidon to Sakio Bika.
I do wanna see Jaidon Codrington vs Allan Green ll though.
I don't really get how those two go together.
Green took a lot of bombs from Miranda before going down.
Search youtube for Green Codrington... and take 16 seconds to watch another of his fights... not even to get a better take on him, but just to get a laugh. It was the KO of the year when it happened.
Oh yeah, I saw that fight too. Jaidon is probably gonna win The Contender so I would like to see a rematch between those two, I think Jaidon can take Green in the rematch by KO, not 15 seconds though, lol. I guess it's unfair to call Green a Michael Grant, but I he is not in Pavlik's class and he will definately get KO'd. It was disgusting the way Green was running from Miranda, you knew that Miranda was gonna take him out when he caught him and he almost did, Green was literally saved by the bell after getting knocked down twice and hurt badly by the first good punches Miranda landed.
This Kelly Pavlik love is immense. This is becoming JUST like when Miranda was seen as unbeatable and the next "big" thing. I like Kelly Pavlik as a fighter but his fans (for the most part) are on the nuthugging level of Hatton, Pacquiao and Mayweather fans.
Floyd Mayweather UD Kelly Pavlik
Allan Green SD Kelly Pavlik
Arthur Abraham KO 7 Kelly Pavlik
You don't really believe that do you? If so, can you explain how?
Only a nuthugging Mayweather fan could predict such a thing imo.
I've seen Green vs Miranda,Ravelo,McCrary and Bonsante. I was impressed with his boxing ability and his left hook, but he proved that he has a weak chin in his fights with Miranda and McCrary. Green is an athlete that's pretending to be a fighter, kind of like Michael Grant. When Pavlik hits him and he will, Green will instantly be in serious trouble and Pavlik is the best finisher in the sport. Green only looks good knocking out bums.
Pavlik by KO in rounds 1,2 or 3. Take your pick
I don't really get how those two go together.
Green took a lot of bombs from Miranda before going down.
Search youtube for Green Codrington... and take 16 seconds to watch another of his fights... not even to get a better take on him, but just to get a laugh. It was the KO of the year when it happened.
What fights have you seen Allan Green in?
I've seen Green vs Miranda,Ravelo,McCrary and Bonsante. I was impressed with his boxing ability and his left hook, but he proved that he has a weak chin in his fights with Miranda and McCrary. Green is an athlete that's pretending to be a fighter, kind of like Michael Grant. When Pavlik hits him and he will, Green will instantly be in serious trouble and Pavlik is the best finisher in the sport. Green only looks good knocking out bums.
Pavlik by KO in rounds 1,2 or 3. Take your pick
This Kelly Pavlik love is immense. This is becoming JUST like when Miranda was seen as unbeatable and the next "big" thing. I like Kelly Pavlik as a fighter but his fans (for the most part) are on the nuthugging level of Hatton, Pacquiao and Mayweather fans.
Floyd Mayweather UD Kelly Pavlik
Allan Green SD Kelly Pavlik
Arthur Abraham KO 7 Kelly Pavlik
people are underestimating green because of the lost with miranda but green is a beast. he had to have 90% of his colin removed shortly after the fight so that definatley had something to do with it. even when he tried to fight he would do well but he was not the same in that fight....anyway, i think green as the ability to out box Pavlik and use the ring. i think green will be champ one day.
I would agree with you, but Pavlik showed me that he is not to be easily outboxed... he has some pretty good ability to go along with his power.
All this Pavlik KO1 against anyone shit is getting on my nerves.
Common Dweins, you seem like a pretty smart guy, but Green has no chance in hell. Green will be in huge trouble when Pavlik land his first right hand.
Pavlik by KO in 1 or 2 rounds, GURANTEED
What fights have you seen Allan Green in?