I have heard this comparison a lot on here and it is absolutely moronic. Gatti shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Ricky Hatton in terms of skill and ability. I loved the wars and heart Gatti showed in his day, but he was a punching bag most of his career that was overhyped by HBO.
Retards on here actually think Floyd vs Hatton is gonna be a replay of Floyd vs Gatti. I don't know if you certain people are stupid or you really hate Ricky Hatton enough to compare a p4p undefeated fighter to a real life human punching bag that was shot when he faced Floyd.
I really could give a rats ass about those bogus stats.
Ricky is thicker and stronger then Mayweather. You really think Floyd would power through Tszyu the way Hatton did?
Of course not... just like Miguel Cotto isn't going to outslick Shane Mosley.
Fighters stick to their styles... now, it is not unthinkable that Floyd could take Tszyu's shot... we don't know, Floyd's chin really hasn't been tested too much.
2 knockdowns (sort of):
1 because he broke his hand.
1 was when he was lunging forward and Zab caught him off balance. Argue that he was hurt in the 4th round, I'll agree, but he wasn't hurt on that KD.
Corley hurt him, but he recovered enough to hurt Corley and win the round.
Floyd's chin is a question mark.
The point is, it doesn't matter, because he would be laughed at for trying that strategy against Kostya Tszyu, unless it worked ridiculously well (IE standing toe-to-toe with Gatti).
These are the only similarities between Hatton and Gatti:
1. They are both white
2. They both have a huge fan base
3. They both have good chins
4. They both have a ton of heart
Other than those similarities I mentioned, they are two completely different fighters skillwise and stylistically.
They have similar power, and have been in fights I would consider brawls more than once.
Regardless of their slight similarities, people are not really comparing Gatti to Hatton, what they are doing is looking the outcome of the Gatti fight and thinking that will be similar to the Floyd fight.
These are the only similarities between Hatton and Gatti:
1. They are both white
2. They both have a huge fan base
3. They both have good chins
4. They both have a ton of heart
Other than those similarities I mentioned, they are two completely different fighters skillwise and stylistically.
So one-dimensional in your logic. The only thing you're stating time and time again is that Mayweather has fought the better fighters.
True. But what does this have to do with fighting a big, strong welt 17 pounds above his initial weight class???
Floyd just fought at 154 and has had 3 fights at 140.
He is also 5'8"
Hatton has only had 1 fight at 147.
He is 5'6"
Oscar was 166 on fight night against Floyd and he handled him effectivly.
Floyd spars with middleweights.
Size will not be a factor.
If I have to explain that to you.....
Ummm. Yeah. You should.
Unless it is something like absorbtion of shots, but Oscar is bigger than Ricky and he didn't just "walk through" Mayweather's shots.
I must either be missing the obvious or you have come up with something that isn't often thought of... either way, I'm curious, tell me.
It's not the power i'm talking about. It's the fact that Hatton is naturally bigger and stronger.
Okay, what does being bigger and stronger get him other than power?
So one-dimensional in your logic. The only thing you're stating time and time again is that Mayweather has fought the better fighters.
True. But what does this have to do with fighting a big, strong ______ welt 17 pounds above his initial weight class???
add light in that blank.
I've said it once, I've said it again. Hatton may have more power than Floyd, but Hatton does not have more power than De La Hoya, and Floyd survived that... so...
I will repeat. Baldomir was not clearly winning the fight. He was not losing the fight, he was not drawing the fight, he was winning the fight but he was not clearly winning the fight.
Baldomir struggled past a badly faded fighter in a mildly entertaining fight.
Interesting....
If you say he was winning, then you believe he was difinitivly winning the fight, meaning there was no doubt in your mind that Gatti was ahead or even.
I never said the fight wasnt COMPETITIVE, because it was.
That being said, Baldomir was winning.
Clearly.
If Baldomir and Judah fought 100 times Judah would win 99 of them, it just so happened that the time they did fight was that one time when Baldomir was due a win.
and floyd beat them both so regardless which was really the champ they both lost to floyd.
Vernon Forrest, Shane Mosley, Winky, Sturm, Williams, Pavlik,Taylor, Any legit contender out there atm.
Yes those are all above or below a division, but certainly makeable fights.
Oscar can't even fight past the 6th round anymore. be real man!
pavlik and taylor are to big it would never happen
yeah, he did look good for a washed up has been.
That would make a sane man question the greatness of Floyd Mayweather.
Quit now!
if delahoya was washed up then what were castillo and tszyu
They compare Hatton to Gatti because their styles are similar, except Hatton clinches more and doesnt have Gatti's power, but Hatton is just a little bit better at everything else (handspeed, footwork, defense).
Also, people believe the outcome of Hatton V Mayweather could turn out like Mayweather v Gatti, which is definitly possible.
just a little bit better
By doing what he has to do to win. Sometimes and against certain fighters strong offense is your best defense.
Most important of all is just because Hatton hasn't lost doesn't mean his defense isn't terrible.
I wouldnt say Hatton has terrible defense, his style just doesnt allow for the type of defense we are accustomed to seeing in the ring.
I will repeat. Baldomir was not clearly winning the fight. He was not losing the fight, he was not drawing the fight, he was winning the fight but he was not clearly winning the fight.
Baldomir was clearly winning and dropped Gatti twice en route to a 9th round stoppage...
How is that not demolishing?
Baldomir was clearly winning nothing.
how does someone with terrible defences win 43 fights and not lose one?
By doing what he has to do to win. Sometimes and against certain fighters strong offense is your best defense.
Most important of all is just because Hatton hasn't lost doesn't mean his defense isn't terrible.
Karmazin could beat Oscar as well as Forrest possibly.
And yes Oscar is washed up. The guy lost 3 of his last 5 fights going into the Floyd fight. He beat Mayorga who is nothing more than a punching bag.
A prime Oscar would have destroyed Mayweather. The bottom line is Oscar wanted to win the fight but didnt want it bad enough. He faded down the stretch and went away from the jab.
Youve got to be kidding me.
What a terrible, terrible post.
Baldomir demolished Gatti my arse. Baldomir struggled past a badly faded fighter in a mildly entertaining fight.
Actually, Baldomir stepping up to fight Forrest is nothing like Castillo returning to fight at welterweight. Castillo has fought at featherweight, super-featherweight, lightweight and light-welterweight. As far as I know Baldomir has only ever fought at welterweight so what Baldomir done is something Castillo has done several times. And for the record, Baldomir was outclassed once again when he fought Forrest though it was marginally more competitive than the snooze-fest with Money Mayweather.
Baldomir was clearly winning and dropped Gatti twice en route to a 9th round stoppage...
How is that not demolishing?
two years ago, Castillo failed to make weight and was 149 on fight day. PBF has NEVER been 149 on fight day. And Foyd fought at WW/JMW.
Four years ago, castillo was a WW before he stripped down.
Five years ago, PBF moved up and fought Castillo - who was then a very big LW.
so, um, yeah. That comparison is fine.
Baldomir is naturally bigger than Castillo and someone who has moved through four weight divisions is clearly different to someone who is moving up for the first time.