On the evening of the 19th of May, 2007, Jermain Taylor ducked under the ropes, into the ring to face Cory Spinks. This would be a snoozefest, a dance-off of the worst kind imaginable. That was already a given.
But behind the facts, the space-time continuum was shifting violently. By not facing Edison Miranda, Taylor had altered his own destiny.
Envision these events:
Taylor defeats Miranda, maybe coming through a tough war, maybe being rocked and coming back to win, maybe gaining the respect of many fans.
In this seperate time-line, Pavlik would have faced another - someone who had not been hyped up by HBO, someone who was not the widely predicted winner. Someone who wasn't Miranda. Pavlik's win would have gone unnoticed.
Under these circumstances, it is easy to think, Jermain Taylor would never have had to face Kelly Pavlik. Taylor's big Miranda win would have allowed him one, maybe two more paper fights, before vacating the MW titles.
Taylor-Pavlik would never have happened.
And all because Taylor chose Spinks.
kool. you mentioned Duddy: The funny thing is, we can come up with as many parallel universes as we want, Duddy gets destroyed by Pavlik in every single one. lol
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Then I guess my universe is holding firm- haha.
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The last thing I want to see is Taylor getting knocked out again. I'm nervous as hell thinking about it, and I'm sitting behind a keyboard.
True, I actually thought of that but, for argument's sake, Miranda-Taylor II was held at 160; though, in actuality it's quite possible they would have fought at a catch-weight like Pavlik-Taylor II.
kool. you mentioned Duddy: The funny thing is, we can come up with as many parallel universes as we want, Duddy gets destroyed by Pavlik in every single one. lol
whatever the weather
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But you have to wonder in that scenario if the Miranda Taylor rematch would have been held at catch weight also. In that case, if Kelly remained at Middle, Miranda and he may never have crossed paths, assuming Miranda found home at super-middle-ish for the rematch and rubber match etc.
lol, its all so interesting anyway. I love running over stuff like that.
True, I actually thought of that but, for argument's sake, Miranda-Taylor II was held at 160; though, in actuality it's quite possible they would have fought at a catch-weight like Pavlik-Taylor II.
Thanks man.
What's your prediction on the fight?
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I agree. But let's construct another alternate universe just for fun:
Miranda beats Taylor by stoppage while Jermain is ahead on the cards- much like Pavlik did. A rematch clause is used, just like with Pavlik-Taylor, and five months later they fight again.
While this is happening Pavlik is thrown a bone and fights a somewhat known, though green, John Duddy- and wins by KO. He's not middleweight champion, and he's not a superstar but he's seen as a threat. Let's say HBO gave him a break and this was a BAD card- just for argument's sake.
Edison Miranda is now middleweight champion of the world and has to rematch Jermain Taylor- like Pavlik's current position- this time Jermain Taylor wins a decision and grabs his prestige back; but a rubber match is signed on and the men decide to fight yet again to close out the year.
Pavlik is now on the radar, though just a blip, and in this universe HBO decides there is some profit in him and matches him against Allan Green- and they get another highlight reel KO end. His stock rises.
Miranda fight Jermain Taylor again, and in a crazy turn of events manages a late, 12th round stoppage (think Rahman-Maskaev II) to recapture his crown from Taylor. He's champion again and Jermain is old news.
Edison Miranda, resurrected Middleweight champion of the world decides to sign on for a nice payday against somewhat known, undefeated contender Kelly Pavlik on HBO championship boxing.
Pavlik handles Miranda as he did in the real world and now he looks like a beast - but Miranda knows he can't beat Kelly, so there is no rematch, and Pavlik goes on to reign for several years.
Ooooooh. How about that one?
Oh, and it's an alternate universe. Let's not get too stupid about it not working out that way. IT COULD'VE HAPPENED- even if unlikely.
I LIKE IT!!
But you have to wonder in that scenario if the Miranda Taylor rematch would have been held at catch weight also. In that case, if Kelly remained at Middle, Miranda and he may never have crossed paths, assuming Miranda found home at super-middle-ish for the rematch and rubber match etc.
lol, its all so interesting anyway. I love running over stuff like that.
I agree. But let's construct another alternate universe just for fun:
Miranda beats Taylor by stoppage while Jermain is ahead on the cards- much like Pavlik did. A rematch clause is used, just like with Pavlik-Taylor, and five months later they fight again.
While this is happening Pavlik is thrown a bone and fights a somewhat known, though green, John Duddy- and wins by KO. He's not middleweight champion, and he's not a superstar but he's seen as a threat. Let's say HBO gave him a break and this was a BAD card- just for argument's sake.
Edison Miranda is now middleweight champion of the world and has to rematch Jermain Taylor- like Pavlik's current position- this time Jermain Taylor wins a decision and grabs his prestige back; but a rubber match is signed on and the men decide to fight yet again to close out the year.
Pavlik is now on the radar, though just a blip, and in this universe HBO decides there is some profit in him and matches him against Allan Green- and they get another highlight reel KO end. His stock rises.
Miranda fight Jermain Taylor again, and in a crazy turn of events manages a late, 12th round stoppage (think Rahman-Maskaev II) to recapture his crown from Taylor. He's champion again and Jermain is old news.
Edison Miranda, resurrected Middleweight champion of the world decides to sign on for a nice payday against somewhat known, undefeated contender Kelly Pavlik on HBO championship boxing.
Pavlik handles Miranda as he did in the real world and now he looks like a beast - but Miranda knows he can't beat Kelly, so there is no rematch, and Pavlik goes on to reign for several years.
Ooooooh. How about that one?
Oh, and it's an alternate universe. Let's not get too stupid about it not working out that way. IT COULD'VE HAPPENED- even if unlikely.
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someone brought this back from the dead. This is from October, haha.
I like epic thread titles,lol.
Yeah, no but it was a good read. Carry on.
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Oh my god.
I can't believe you typed that out. I mean that's a great idea and all but I never would have in my wildest dreams imagined seeing an article titled:
The Jermain Taylor and the Corey Spinks Paradox.
we have a witch doctor in the house
someone brought this back from the dead. This is from October, haha.
I like epic thread titles,lol.
Oh my god.
I can't believe you typed that out. I mean that's a great idea and all but I never would have in my wildest dreams imagined seeing an article titled:
The Jermain Taylor and the Corey Spinks Paradox.
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Big thank you to all my fans who stuck by me. What can I say I'm ready to go. All I can say is I know for a fact I'll come out with the W on Saturday. It's gonna be a tough fight. Tough fight. We prepared for that. I've been through hell for this and we're ready to go 12 rounds. I feel like I could go 15 rounds with this kid.
You know I got a lot of respect for Kelly Pavlik. And we'll see what happens Feb 16th. Peace to all you. I announced my rematch here first, so I wanna say thanks to you guys. For all the messages you guys sent. Be at peace in whatever you do in life.
Enjoy the fight.
Jermain
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Thanks, was trying to remember where 'Jermain' had posted before, didn't realise I'd started that thread,lol.
Yeah good advice.
Reading some of you guys comments here its funny me and Dez laughin up down here. We got the playstation out and fightnight we been playin all evenin. If one you guys can tell me how to get a cell pic up here be good. Let me just say straight that I ain't never taken anything away from Kelly, and readin some of the hatin on these net forums make me wanna get down to the gym and train even harder. Aint no one of you can say I won't be back and be champ of the world again. Peace to all you. we're out
If you got a digital camera upload it to your computer.
Then go to http://tinypic.com/ and upload the picture.
Then copy the one that says "IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards:" and post that on here.
miranda is not overhyped, he beat a world champ , abraham . he beat him !
Was it my post you were referring to? Yeah by no means I think Miranda is overhyped. My point there, and I probabaly should have explained better, was the manner that HBO supported him, by giving him that 10-15 min documentary before the Pavlik-Miranda fight. It was a very one-sided thing to do, and an instrument of hyping him for Taylor-Miranda.
I think Miranda is a great fighter though.
Reading some of you guys comments here its funny me and Dez laughin up down here. We got the playstation out and fightnight we been playin all evenin. If one you guys can tell me how to get a cell pic up here be good. Let me just say straight that I ain't never taken anything away from Kelly, and readin some of the hatin on these net forums make me wanna get down to the gym and train even harder. Aint no one of you can say I won't be back and be champ of the world again. Peace to all you. we're out
No!! Come back Jermain, I want to talk to you!
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Reading some of you guys comments here its funny me and Dez laughin up down here. We got the playstation out and fightnight we been playin all evenin. If one you guys can tell me how to get a cell pic up here be good. Let me just say straight that I ain't never taken anything away from Kelly, and readin some of the hatin on these net forums make me wanna get down to the gym and train even harder. Aint no one of you can say I won't be back and be champ of the world again. Peace to all you. we're out