In america, Pacquiao is more popular, no questions asked. Now imagine why?? It's because he came to america to fight, not stuck out in the fillipines milking money from his poor country.
calzaghe doesn`t care about popularity in america. if he did, he would have gone over there. boxing is dying in america.
Using the Pacman is a rubbish comparison though, he's more popular in his country than Trinidad is in Puerto Rico. (well close anyway)
I'd like to see Calzaghe go to another country, it'll never make them as much money as staying at home but it'd be a good trip abroad.
Not in america but in their own respective countries is what I meant.
In america, Pacquiao is more popular, no questions asked. Now imagine why?? It's because he came to america to fight, not stuck out in the fillipines milking money from his poor country.
He stepped up to american, got his shot at barrera and took care of business. He been moving up even since.
Something Calzaghe has yet to do.
Calzaghe is hardly known in the UK outside people who are into boxing. He is not a anything like a household name, in fact, most people wouldn`t know who he was at all.
Pacman is 100 times more popular in his country than Calzaghe will ever be in the UK.
Hopkins has a ego problem. He believes (and he is right) that he has legend status. He has won alot of big fights and he is not letting Calzaghe jerk him around just because he is undefeated.
lol ,sounds like an excuse to me ,if a fee was agreed why change it a week or so after ,
"calzaghe's hooligan fans to make money" nice to see your not the type to generalise eh , ask Roy Jones JR about Hopkins when it comes negotiations that alone leaves me inclined to believe Calzaghe when he said they had agreed a fee and then Hopkins asked for double the money
why did Hopkins sign to fight Winky instead of fighting Calzaghe and then proceed to call Calzaghe out after the fight when he knew he had a fight with Kessler sighned ,
Calzaghe will beat his ass anyway so it will be a none issue when they get it on provided Bhop does'nt decide to fight another undersized fighter instead
Hopkins has a ego problem. He believes (and he is right) that he has legend status. He has won alot of big fights and he is not letting Calzaghe jerk him around just because he is undefeated.
its all about money in the US, not who's the best fighter. Calzaghe is not anywhere near as popular as Pacquaio. If you are going to talk bullshit, at least have some facts.
Not in america but in their own respective countries is what I meant.
In america, Pacquiao is more popular, no questions asked. Now imagine why?? It's because he came to america to fight, not stuck out in the fillipines milking money from his poor country.
He stepped up to american, got his shot at barrera and took care of business. He been moving up even since.
Something Calzaghe has yet to do.
Yes 20,000 a game all over america.
I think this is pointless, I explained myself very well but you're just spinning in circles. Joe is as popular over there as Manny pacquiao is in the fillipines.
Neither of them can sell out on their own in America so who cares. B-hop doesn't need calzaghe's hooligan fans to make money. He gets paid way more then Calzaghe so it doesn't matter. It's all about the money.
Hopkins is not Jeff Lacy, Hopkins is a great accomplished fighter and if Joe wants a peace of him he is gonna have to make that trip. If he does't you can keep claiming that Hopking is ducking Joe and I and many other will keep claiming that Joe is ducking Hopkins. Simple as that
"calzaghe's hooligan fans to make money" nice to see your not the type to generalise eh , ask Roy Jones JR about Hopkins when it comes negotiations that alone leaves me inclined to believe Calzaghe when he said they had agreed a fee and then Hopkins asked for double the money
why did Hopkins sign to fight Winky instead of fighting Calzaghe and then proceed to call Calzaghe out after the fight when he knew he had a fight with Kessler sighned ,
Calzaghe will beat his ass anyway so it will be a none issue when they get it on provided Bhop does'nt decide to fight another undersized fighter instead
Yes 20,000 a game all over america.
I think this is pointless, I explained myself very well but you're just spinning in circles. Joe is as popular over there as Manny pacquiao is in the fillipines.
Neither of them can sell out on their own in America so who cares. B-hop doesn't need calzaghe's hooligan fans to make money. He gets paid way more then Calzaghe so it doesn't matter. It's all about the money.
its all about money in the US, not who's the best fighter. Calzaghe is not anywhere near as popular as Pacquaio. If you are going to talk bullshit, at least have some facts.
Well thats because you are brainwashed. You seem to be brainwashed into thinking anyone born on US soil is automatically better than anyone else. When you get proved wrong like Lacy, you pretend he hardly exists.
Bernard or Jeff arnt seen as americans in America? Joe is Welsh, he still has English fans, he still sells out English arena's.
I think you are trying to find an excuse for being so fickle. NBa gets like 20,000 fans a game, thats it!
Yes 20,000 a game all over america.
I think this is pointless, I explained myself very well but you're just spinning in circles. Joe is as popular over there as Manny pacquiao is in the fillipines.
Neither of them can sell out on their own in America so who cares. B-hop doesn't need calzaghe's hooligan fans to make money. He gets paid way more then Calzaghe so it doesn't matter. It's all about the money.
Hopkins is not Jeff Lacy, Hopkins is a great accomplished fighter and if Joe wants a peace of him he is gonna have to make that trip. If he does't you can keep claiming that Hopking is ducking Joe and I and many other will keep claiming that Joe is ducking Hopkins. Simple as that
the us isn`t the mecca of boxing, nor is it the entertainment capital of the world.
It depends on what you call entertainment. Cheap tacky crap like las vegas, sure you have it in bucketloads. That ain`t something to shout about.
This isn`t the 1970's anymore. All your boxers are boring. I`ve never met or spoken to anyone who got excited watching hopkins and mayweather. thats why in the US boxing is dying on its ass.
calzaghe doesn`t have to go to america, who gives a shit what americans think about boxing anyway.
Who gives a shit what you think?
Joe Calzaghe has the luxary of having a automatic fanbase because he is one of them
Bernard or Jeff arnt seen as americans in America? Joe is Welsh, he still has English fans, he still sells out English arena's.
I think you are trying to find an excuse for being so fickle. NBa gets like 20,000 fans a game, thats it!
the us isn`t the mecca of boxing, nor is it the entertainment capital of the world.
It depends on what you call entertainment. Cheap tacky crap like las vegas, sure you have it in bucketloads. That ain`t something to shout about.
This isn`t the 1970's anymore. All your boxers are boring. I`ve never met or spoken to anyone who got excited watching hopkins and mayweather. thats why in the US boxing is dying on its ass.
calzaghe doesn`t have to go to america, who gives a shit what americans think about boxing anyway.
Basically what you are saying is Americans are shit fans? Yes?
Exactly. In america you have to try a lil harder to be popular then in England.
Joe Calzaghe has the luxary of having a automatic fanbase because he is one of them. A mexican figher has the same luxary. It's national pride.
Bernard Hopkins is a legend. It doesn't matter how much he sells. He is no Mike tyson or Ali in terms of popularity but he will go down as one of the Greatest middleweights of all time.And he has made more money then Calzaghe despite of Joe selling out an entire stadium.
Nba - Entertainment? You Kiddin Me Right?
That's all you could mustard up as a responsne?
Yes entertainment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Entertainment
So what you are saying is Roy Jones will just be a man in the history books.
Joe Calzaghe will be loved by his people no matter what the history books say.
So you cant get 10,000 Floridians over for Lacy? Do they not have passports? Its really lame when you cant get 10,000 from a possible 300 million.
JEff Lacy is not that big. There are more famous people in florida then Lacy, trust me. We are the entertainment capital of the world. Movie stars, Rap stars, Nba basketball stars, you name it.
Then you got a lil country like the fillipines and all they have is Manny Pacquiao??? According to them he is their national treasure.
So he might be God to them over there but over here he is just a lil exciting fighter and if promoted right americans will love him until he losses and the next little guy comes along. Same thing goes for Calzaghe.
England has one or 2 undefeated world champions and they're on their nuts like soccer hooligans. Ricky sold out arenas over there fighting bums. Calzaghe sold an entire arena fighting a reality tv star in Manfredo.
That shit doesn't fly around here. Which is why Calzaghe won't come over here, not because he is scared BUT because his promoter won't let him.
His promoter rather sell out at the same place over and over playing it safe and watch his pockets fill up then let Calzaghe try to expend his status as a world champion. Calzaghe is just a local champion to us. New York alone is bigger then England.
So what you are saying is Roy Jones will just be a man in the history books.
Joe Calzaghe will be loved by his people no matter what the history books say.
So you cant get 10,000 Floridians over for Lacy? Do they not have passports? Its really lame when you cant get 10,000 from a possible 300 million.