I've had my chin proven from hard punches from Eubank, Robin Reid, Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell, (and) Jeff Lacy.
As far as I'm concerned I punch harder than Kessler does anyway. I've knocked 30 men spark out and putting Chris Eubank down is a whole lot different than putting Markus Beyer down.
Whenever a genuine threat is put in front of me I raise my game - Eubank, Sheika, Veit, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy. We all saw the results.
I know if I'm not at my best on November 3rd I will lose. That gets me excited.
I didn't respect Bika or Manfredo and they were poor performances. I respect Kessler like I respected Lacy. If I repeat that Lacy performance then nobody can touch me, I've won.
Ask Jeff Lacy if I'm just a slapper. Most of the shots I hit him with were slaps but when I would set down on a couple of shots of a barrage they yanked his neck and shifted him about.
That's what I do. I mix it up. Nobody is more glad than me that Kessler thinks I can't punch!
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i had the watson eubank fight a draw, obviously watson was way ahead in the 2nd fight. joe would have been competitive against benn eubank and watson they would all have been close tough fights and I wouldn’t pick a clear favourite. i think joe would def beat Collins I was never to high on him.
I thought Eubank won the 1st Watson fight Michael gave away the first half of the fight but the way the press went up in arms was pathetic like Michael was the victim of some kind of Lewis V Holyfeild style robbery just because they hated Eubank so much and Michael was so popular ,that should not have detracted away from the fact that Watson did not do enough to take the Title away from the Champion
Calzage would havee beaten Eubank the blue print to beat Eubank was keep the pressure on him make him fight every minute of every round ,Eubank could only fight at his own pace and his attacking Boxing was very poor
on the other hand Benn had a style that may have Troubled Calzaghe a bit that low weaving style that gave the tall McClellan a lot of problems defensively im not talking about Geralds injurys sustained in the fight, im just saying he was gettting hit frequently because he could'nt get to grips with Benns low style ,i think Joe may have had the same problems being so tall but in any case he would have still beaten him as the would G-Man without the injury he sustained
but Collins v Cazaghe hard to pick a winner IMO ,Collins had more ability than people like to give him credit for he was really good counter puncher and durable as anything ,he had Mike McCallum on the run towards the end of their fight put it that way ,and McCallum was a top top fighter
is still pick Joe because i dont see any weakness in his game and he has more skill than Collins
Well i suppose he has too mention Lacy as Lacy was supposed to beat him. But didnt. Lacy was great after his performance over Robin Reid, who JC struggled agaisnt.
I don't think I have ever seen a Calzaghe interview where he doesn't mention Lacy. YOu can't blame thim though that was his greatest victory. We will see who has a better chin and punches harder come the third, just wait and see.
And for JCs critics who say he wouldnt have beaten Eubanks and Benn in their primes. Isnt it just the same people who like to underestimate JC. I bet these were the same people who said Lacy would beat JC as well. JC has showed that you shouldnt underestimate him.
Let us get one thing straight about JC v Eubank and Eubank not being as his best and taking the fight at short notice. JC was untested and he had never gone past a certain amount of rounds. Eubank didnt fight JC at his best as well. The thing is Eubank said JC did hit hard as well. JC has been talked about as the greatest ever super middle. Whether he is or not isnt the issue. It is that he is actually even talked about as a candidate, which Eubank and Benn arent. So that their assesment that JC would have beaten them even in their primes cant be far off the mark
Strange that because Collins (as much of a clown as he is) has also gone on record quite a few times in saying Calzaghe wouldn't have lasted in his era
i think your right Orange Sneakers i cant see Benn or Eubank saying that ,i have read Eubank's autobiography and if i remember right im sure he said that he was in shape for the Calzaghe fight and that he had no excuses ,Eubank's is like that if he thought Watson beat him first time around he would have said that but even to this day he still thinks he won the first fight and i agree he had a few excuses about the 1 Collins defeat but he admitted he was beaten fair and square in the Rematch ,but i cant see Eubank saying this fighter or that fighter was better than him
Not sure where you got your info from mate but that was Eubanks 3rd fight inside of 12 months (he won the first two by KO).
Eubanks, Benn and even Steve Collins have gone on record and stated that if JC had of operated in their era then he probably would of been the best of the bunch.
Strange that because Collins (as much of a clown as he is) has also gone on record quite a few times in saying Calzaghe wouldn't have lasted in his era
i know i coming across as Calzaghe nuthugger but there's one contributing factor for this that i dont think some people want Joe to be recognised as great fighter i thought he had silenced all the doubter's after the Lacy fight especially whe you consider he had been champion for how many years and Lacy was a the favourite to win the fight ,because Joe beats Lacy up badly people claim he was overated etc ,this is what im talking about i heard the same thing's about Vivian Harris was gonna whip on Junior Witter and tha Kostya Tzyu was gonna whip Hatton ,guess what none of that happend infact quite the oposite most of those fighters ended up shipping a lot of punishment in those fights
Lennox Lewis is perfect example undisputed Heavyweight Champion does 'nt even get into a top fifty Heavyweight' list int he US yet yet Holyfield does ,the Heavyweight division is pants at the moment aparently just happens to be dominated by european fighters all this is not a coincidence the facts are there these fighter should be shown more respect but the opinion's of people in the US contradict those facts
why is the real reason Lacy is overated cause he got beaten by Joe or because he did'nt beat Joe there is definetly an agenda regarding European Fighters not by all the US fans cause there are some very unbiased American Posters on here ,maybe it is there US media who knows
Your right we dont know what happened over those entire 10 yrs ,, so I can only go on what we do know and that is Joe has not fought any big names overseas , or any big in prime names ever , every big name proven fighter was one step from retiring ,,, so what are you to believe that Joe is the one willing to fight anybody anywhere , look where we are fighting again this time , but you might be right and its just a coincidence for over 10 yrs ,, maybe Hatton is just lucky he got big fights in the states straight up , maybe Kessler went Aus to defend against Mundine to get an aussie suntan , maybe Ottke was unlucky just like Joe in getting the real big risk fights for all them years also .
it should 'nt make a difference where you fight if Joe want's to stay at home so what these so called better fighter's can come too him after all he happens to be recognised as the best fighter in the division and has enough cash ,not many people apart from you would argue he has 'nt been the best SMW of the last 10 years and fought the best SMW out there that it is undisputed fact cut and dry which ever way you wanna put it its a fact so he cant have that much to prove now can he
so by your estimation RodBarker Kessler deserves more respect ,makes sense yeah beyer,Mundine ,Andrade LOL ,and Joe does'nt for dominating the SMW division ,name a SMW he has'nt fought that people clamoured for him to fight
at the end of the day Joe has done his job cleaned out his division and is recognised as the best fighter in it ,
Sounds like is desperate to convince people that his resume is not padded , which it is !!
" Whenever a genuine threat is put in front of me I raise my game - Eubank, Sheika, Veit, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy. We all saw the results. "
Brewer was TKOed by a middle right before Cal fought him , retired not long after Cal and stopped his last 2 .
Mitchell , was beaten by Ottke right before Cal , and he was beaten by Siacca right before that , Cal was Mitchells retiring fight .
Eubanks was out of retirement , commentators of the fight was saying Eubanks should not be fighting and was a shadow of his best , Eubanks said himself he took the fight on short notice and he could beat Joe if he had more time , also said he dont punch hard .
It just goes on and on right through his career ,,,,, JCal is a very good fighter but he is not this PFP monster people think he is ,, the bottom line is he has been fed contender status fighters his whole career ,,, Kessler is really the best in his prime fighter Joe has met .
Not sure where you got your info from mate but that was Eubanks 3rd fight inside of 12 months (he won the first two by KO).
Eubanks, Benn and even Steve Collins have gone on record and stated that if JC had of operated in their era then he probably would of been the best of the bunch.
Nobody is saying Joe is not a good fighter ,, his fans are not saying he is a good fighter they are saying he is an all time great ,,, big difference ! and thats the only thing Im putting into perspective ,,, the guy that says Cals resume is like BHops ,,,, crazy ,,,,, Cal is been in mothballs keeping a winning record , the fights have been on the table and he hasnt taken them , he has all the good reasons , but here we go again , where is this fight and who chased who !
Yeah I will have all my pts on Kessler if you want ( to the guy that asked )
how do you know what fight's Joe has or has'nt turned down unless you were were his agent or Kessler's you dont no any thing more than what ever spin the media put on a story and that is what you are basing your opinion 's on ,some people believe what they wanna and id suggest you are 1 of those people
it seems to me you get more respect moving up divisions identifying weaker the champions in those divisions and beating them
Calzaghes record is no more padded than Bernard Hopkins.
Agreed. Both men were unfortunate in situations with an era not very ripe for competition. That doesn't discredit Calzaghe's reign and it doesn't discredit Hopkins' either. Too many critics.
Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank are two vastly different people
Benn says Calzaghe would have beaten him, Eubank, Watson, Collins and so on. That's not Eubank ;)
Eubank says he'd have stopped Calzaghe
i think it was nigel benn who said something alogn the line sof, if cal was in our era he would have been able to compete with us.
Nigel benn and Chris Eubank both agreed that he would have beaten them both at thier bests. It was on a documentary, maybe someone knows which one I mean, I cant remember then name of it.
Eubank says he'd have stopped Calzaghe
Tough fight to call but I'm leaning more towards Joe Calzaghe. More experience, better hand speed, home court advantage (not sure how being booed out of the arena will effect Kessler, if at all that is), more at stake in terms of legacy, etc...
Sounds like is desperate to convince people that his resume is not padded , which it is !!
" Whenever a genuine threat is put in front of me I raise my game - Eubank, Sheika, Veit, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy. We all saw the results. "
Brewer was TKOed by a middle right before Cal fought him , retired not long after Cal and stopped his last 2 .
Mitchell , was beaten by Ottke right before Cal , and he was beaten by Siacca right before that , Cal was Mitchells retiring fight .
Eubanks was out of retirement , commentators of the fight was saying Eubanks should not be fighting and was a shadow of his best , Eubanks said himself he took the fight on short notice and he could beat Joe if he had more time , also said he dont punch hard .
It just goes on and on right through his career ,,,,, JCal is a very good fighter but he is not this PFP monster people think he is ,, the bottom line is he has been fed contender status fighters his whole career ,,, Kessler is really the best in his prime fighter Joe has met .
does't seem to be padding his resume to me. more like he is responding the kessler's thoughts on that joe has less power. he also mentioned he has a chin to say that kessler's power won't hurt him. you need to read and understand why people are saying things. it's a reply to kessler all in all.
resume is not what every boxer can control. it is up to their promoters aswell. no doubt joe is a fantastic fighter. there are rumours other fighters have priced themselves out agaisnt joe. he isn't fmaous enough in the states to get ppv etc... so i suppose it is not wrong to ask for a big pay day if you're american. especially since joe has the ability to beat you. now that joe is getting more recognised the big names do wanna fight him. although he is quite old now at 35 so i don't know if he can fight for much longer.
btw all my points that joe will beat kessler? take my bet?
Sounds like is desperate to convince people that his resume is not padded , which it is !!
" Whenever a genuine threat is put in front of me I raise my game - Eubank, Sheika, Veit, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy. We all saw the results. "
Brewer was TKOed by a middle right before Cal fought him , retired not long after Cal and stopped his last 2 .
Mitchell , was beaten by Ottke right before Cal , and he was beaten by Siacca right before that , Cal was Mitchells retiring fight .
Eubanks was out of retirement , commentators of the fight was saying Eubanks should not be fighting and was a shadow of his best , Eubanks said himself he took the fight on short notice and he could beat Joe if he had more time , also said he dont punch hard .
It just goes on and on right through his career ,,,,, JCal is a very good fighter but he is not this PFP monster people think he is ,, the bottom line is he has been fed contender status fighters his whole career ,,, Kessler is really the best in his prime fighter Joe has met .
Brewer was robbed against Echols
Eubanks was out of retirement , commentators of the fight was saying Eubanks should not be fighting and was a shadow of his best , Eubanks said himself he took the fight on short notice and he could beat Joe if he had more time , also said he dont punch hard .
Nigel benn and Chris Eubank both agreed that he would have beaten them both at thier bests. It was on a documentary, maybe someone knows which one I mean, I cant remember then name of it.