Who has the better legacy, Pacquiao or Mayweather?

Mayweather of course. I am a Pacfan but PBF has beaten better quality fighters. Also, u can't compare the legacy now until they retire.

prolly mayweather

He's a fucking fool for doing that. Pride for some people can be their own down fall. Their team said it's about principles, not so much as the money. I guess to each his own, as they settled for a fight in Indo for $30K, and not 100K.

Oh, and regardless of what the fair deal was as far as the split and exact numbers... he ended up fighting John for like ~$100,000 or something silly like that. He's a fucking fool for doing that. Pride for some people can be their own down fall.

I'm new to neither and I'll pass on doing the research. Oh, and regardless of what the fair deal was as far as the split and exact numbers... he ended up fighting John for like ~$100,000 or something silly like that.

dude, 750K wasn't a fair deal for JMM, you think? PAC was supposed to get 1 million for that fight with JMM not far behind with 750K. he was asking 1.5 million for the rematch because he had the belts. Manny was Ring Magazine's champ during that time, we fail to consider that. While belts still make some statement, it isn't loud enough to make promoters double his money. JMM didn't want the fight outright. That's just it. I didn't say that wasn't fair. All I said was I heard he didn't get a fair deal. I knew nothing about the specifics of the deal.

you obviously are new to boxing or new to manny pac's career cause you don't know about the rematch details. we don't need to provide you with a link, go find it yourself here in boxingscene. There are a lot of articles here, you do the research. I'm new to neither and I'll pass on doing the research.

Much to begin with? That's a joke. And I could just as easily say a lot of what made them out of their prime were Pac's beatings. Not that hard a case to make. I made a post in a different thread.. but people are quick to praise that group of 4. The problem is, they've lost some bouts to outside competition... so are they really the top 4 who are so clearly dominant? Is it so hard to think that, while they were on top for a time, they weren't that spectacular? They got rich and famous in the boxing world by fighting eachother.

oh it's a fact alrite, it's written all over the internet before. if 800K is lowballing, then why would he trek all the way to Indo and lose for 30K? Can you please show me a credible article that shows you claims to be true. If they are from a credible source I will have no problem admitting I was wrong.

I didn't apply ducking to Manny and I stated what I heard. A person doesn't have to take what is offered if it isn't fair. Also low balling a fighter is another way to postpone fights still not saying that is what Manny did. Just not going to take your second hand knowledge of what went on as fact when I heard different and I am not taking what I heard as fact either. oh it's a fact alrite, it's written all over the internet before. if 800K is lowballing, then why would he trek all the way to Indo and lose for 30K?

the key word here is OFFERED. JMM declined. And you got it the other way around. It's JMM who priced himself out, so you cant apply ducking to Manny. I didn't apply ducking to Manny and I stated what I heard. A person doesn't have to take what is offered if it isn't fair. Also low balling a fighter is another way to postpone fights still not saying that is what Manny did. Just not going to take your second hand knowledge of what went on as fact when I heard different and I am not taking what I heard as fact either.

I also heard Marquez wasn't given a fair deal at the negotiation table. Regardless because I don't what is true or not. For whatever reason the rematch hasn't happened that I know for fact. We also know truth be told if PBF was considered to have priced hisself out of a rematch with Castillo majority of people would be saying he ducked Castillo and that is NOT to say Manny is ducking Marquez. the key word here is OFFERED. JMM declined. And you got it the other way around. It's JMM who priced himself out, so you cant apply ducking to Manny.

Much to begin with? That's a joke. And I could just as easily say a lot of what made them out of their prime were Pac's beatings. Not that hard a case to make.

tsk tsk... Marquez was given an immediate rematch... He priced himself out... Just a reminder... I also heard Marquez wasn't given a fair deal at the negotiation table. Regardless because I don't what is true or not. For whatever reason the rematch hasn't happened that I know for fact. We also know truth be told if PBF was considered to have priced hisself out of a rematch with Castillo majority of people would be saying he ducked Castillo and that is NOT to say Manny is ducking Marquez.

It doesn't take me too long to make a case for Pac being number one. And the arrogant ones know who they are...they are not the type who think or consider anything. The ones who get angry and act like women when their god is challenged. What is the case? OMG he fought MAB, Morales, and JMM!!!!!!! They looked really good coming off of losses to fight him. People love to make fun of Floyd for some of his fights... MAB and Morales weren't what they used to be; and might not've been that much to begin with.

It doesn't take me too long to make a case for Pac being number one. And the arrogant ones know who they are...they are not the type who think or consider anything. The ones who get angry and act like women when their god is challenged.

It's not logical at all. It is silly. It absolutely is dismissive. To dismiss the idea without even giving it thought (the idea of Pac being number 1) it the very definition of being dismissive. Pac has a good track record lately and it is not crazy or out in left field to suggest that he is p4p number 1 by a slight margin. It's arrogant to dismiss people so abruptly who make that case. Giving it thought and spending hours mulling over it are 2 different things. I wouldn't spend hours repeating a basic math equation to make sure I got the correct answer. It's not insulting, dismissive, or arrogant. It is merely somebody's understanding of boxing and ability to notice the obvious. It shouldn't take somebody long to realize that Floyd is p4p #1.

It's not silly or dismissive... it's simply being logical. It's not logical at all. It is silly. It absolutely is dismissive. To dismiss the idea without even giving it thought (the idea of Pac being number 1) it the very definition of being dismissive. Pac has a good track record lately and it is not crazy or out in left field to suggest that he is p4p number 1 by a slight margin. It's arrogant to dismiss people so abruptly who make that case.

Yeah I was just thinking that. That definitely goes on as well. But Floyd fans already have Floyd p4p number 1 as do many writers and think that Pac has no case at all, which is silly and dismissive. It's not silly or dismissive... it's simply being logical. Nobody is saying Pac is a bum or doesn't belong near the top of the p4p lists.... but you wont find many people who think he should be #1. He simply isn't. There's no shame in being #2 to one of the best boxers of the last 20 years.

Couldn't the same things be said about the PAC fans trying to discredit PBF? What I don't think some people realize is that there are ways to debate fighters without tearing them down. Yeah I was just thinking that. That definitely goes on as well. But Floyd fans already have Floyd p4p number 1 as do many writers and think that Pac has no case at all, which is silly and dismissive.