manny pacquiao's pursuit of greatness

No.Are you?Cuz when did I say he has not fought the best?Tell me when?My reply was about you saying that he retired them not about him fighting the best. you are an absolute idiiot!! what if barrera and morales beats pac back then!! there will be no excuses for pac.. non alike for mab and EM old this and that excuses moron.. to many shits war they've done this and that again.. back then pac is a ordinary boxer challenger and nothing to proove but seeking.. back then all the glory and greatness of barrera and morales they have! but pac shock them all!! and world of boxing! isnt it incredible?! you have only jmm and soto.. so make sure you have some back ups and more excuses.. :D:D:D

JMM is not washed-up yet. I think he's going to give Pacquiao a run for his money. Bring on Pac-JMM II

The simple point is. PAC has defeated the best. Opinions of them being old and this and that are rendered moot by the fact that he has fought the best. Only idiots will argue otherwise. Question. Are you an idiot? No.Are you?Cuz when did I say he has not fought the best?Tell me when?My reply was about you saying that he retired them not about him fighting the best.

Dude you got no balls. You called Pac this and that and when Pac retired your fighters you call them bums and washed up. You're a shame to be a Mexican. I don't understand why are you guys saying Pac retired them.First off Barrera clearly stated that he would retire after this fight regardless of theoutcome,so you tell me how the hell did he retire him?And how did he retire Morales if he fought again after his loss to Pac?How the hell is that retiring him.

MAB: Beaten beyond recognition. Then ran like Pac was Mike Tyson. Morales: Beaten beyond recognition. TWICE. Had a gift decision in the first. JMM: Beaten if not for a scoring error. Ran all the way to Indonesia to hide. Ledwaba: Top 12 p4p got the shock of his life. Sasakul: The man at 108 who got raped by Pacquiao Add to that many world champs and many undefeated fighters to his resume. THe first MAB win was a good one. The second one was against a MAB with a foot alread out the door. Morales beat Manny in the first fight. He lost in the second, but still, at the end of his career. Look at how he has fought since winning the first fight... JMM won that fight. He won that by as much as Peter beat Mccline by, and if you werent bias you would know it. The only scoring error in that fight that matters to me is that the judges had there thumbs up there asses when it came time to score the rounds. Yeah the one judge admited that he messed up and it would have given Pac the win, but like most people I feel that Pac CLEARLY lost that fight. He got a boxing lesson. I have not heard of the last 2 guys, but I have a hard time seeing that beating those two guys and splitting wins with an old Morales, and beating a basically already retired former great MAB would put PAC into the top 10 all time. Not even close, not even in the ballpark.

MAB: Beaten beyond recognition. Then ran like Pac was Mike Tyson. Morales: Beaten beyond recognition. TWICE. Had a gift decision in the first. JMM: Beaten if not for a scoring error. Ran all the way to Indonesia to hide. Ledwaba: Top 12 p4p got the shock of his life. Sasakul: The man at 108 who got raped by Pacquiao Add to that many world champs and many undefeated fighters to his resume. You are a fucking idiot.First off Morales beat him clearly the first time so no excuses.Marquez boxed his ears off.And tell me what many world champs and undefeated fighters are you reffering to?Be specific.

PacHating is a disease. Go see your doctor. I have nothing against Pac. I do however have something against calling someone a top 10 great with nothing at all to back it up.

Can't really understand some people here. They smell an upset everytime Pac fights. Then when Pac beats them, they say they shouldn't have fought this and that. True, Pac is far from being top 10 lightweight. I think Floyd is still way ahead of him in P4P, but no one batters Erik and Marco the way he did. As for Raheem, he's a bad matchup for everyone. Even for Floyd if they were in the same weight class. He's also the reason people turn to MMA.

Why is it that some posters on here act like they are taking credit for Pacman winning fights and being a "great" fighter? You didnt have anything to do with it. Pac is a HOF fighter, but he is very, very, very, very far from top 10 all time. I dont see what great fighters he has ever beat when they were prime. I cant think of one. How does beating once great fighters make you a top 10 great? He lost to one of those old men, and drew with another, and anyone who knows how to score a fight knows Pac lost that fight as well.

Hate his delusional fans all you want. Hell curse them all you want. But at the end of the day only thinking men will realize that Pac is something very special and very very rare. Courage. Honor. Dignity. Resume Spectacular wins. He will be an ATG before his time is great. maybe a top 20 or top 10. not to mention that he has stayed a humble muthafucka!!!:boxing:

fact is manny has fought many of the current top names in his weight class and has beaten them all. not too many fighters can boast that.

Manny keeps fighting the same ppl and its getting tired already.

Pac is a beast people should just forget about the fight with Marco because he will only get stronger at 135. He will have no trouble with most of the 135 pounders with the expection of diaz, who he will beat by the way.

pacquiao has retired both erik morales and marco antonio barrera. i'm just giving credit where credit is due.

True, i think the only rematch that should of been made was JMM vs PAC 2. and thats it, Morales should of retired after the Raheem loss. I fucking hope he doesnt move up yet so he can face JMM first, then he can move up and get beat and then retire. hahahaha...you just contradict yourself...you just agreed to the poster efore you that pac has to fight new and fresh fighters but you dangled JMM's name in there as if he isn't old enuff and over the hill fighter... i bet 20k with you...that when pac beats the hell out of jmm...you would say the same song all over again. :kabong:

People. Lets stop acting like Barrera didnt deserve a rematch. They both deserved the money they recieved. Same goes for Morales. PAC has put money in all of their pockets. I would have added Marquez but we know he ran like hell from the rematch. Nobody in the division really wants to see PAC. Because they know they would fall just like the rest.

Yes Jmm would be a problem for Pacquio but he better avoid Guzman or else his persuit is a rap. Guzman would toy with him like a lil retarded kid. He will rip Guzman in half.

One of the greatest yeah, but top 10 HELL NO. He would have to beat valero, guzman, soto, marquez, all the diaz's, katsidis and Casamayor to be the top 10 OF ALL TIME. Yes it is that damn hard. OMG. Your a tard. Straight up.

Mab, JMM, Morales, and Pac all had the advantage of being active at the same time. They get to fight eachother and it's easy to think how great of a fighter whoever is on top at the time is. It's tough to gauge greatness unless a third part (or 5th in this case) got a chance to step up. True, you can't achieve greatness fighting the same three guys over and over.. especially if they are old and not what they used to be. Pac needs to fight some new names.

One of the greatest yeah, but top 10 HELL NO. He would have to beat valero, guzman, soto, marquez, all the diaz's, katsidis and Casamayor to be the top 10 OF ALL TIME. Yes it is that damn hard.