Andre Berto becomes mandatory

Factor, Berto spent the past two fights getting hit. If Estrada had more pop, he would have been in trouble. Hell, if his corner didn't take a chainsaw to his glove, he might have been stopped by Cosme Rivera. Maybe you missed where I said Cintron's power is overrated. His KO percentage is very deceiving. Most of his KO's were against guys who were no hopers. He lost to Margarito(badly). He had a very difficult time with Estrada. Berto has his problems and deficiencies, but he wins. I think this is a pick em fight. Dare I say, that Cintron gets beat by guys who are tougher(Margarito) than him. I'd also say be gets beat by a guy who'd easily beat him to the punch. Most of the top 10 at ww fith that bill. Clottey, Williams, Berto, Mayweather, Mosley all beat him to the punch. Margarito would just tough it out and blast him back to babyland again. Cintron is overrated. He has 1 big fight under hgis belt, and he lost.

My "mentality" needs no progression towards Floyd. I think I understand exactly what he's about. There's a chance in this fight that Floyd has finally picked the wrong cherry. If he hasn't picked the wrong cherry and beats hatton and beats your prediction of the fight, you as a fan either give him his due credit or continue to belittle him in some kind of way. That's the mentality I was talking about. We shall see what you do after the results are out. Yo, this is about andre berto's possibly being the mandatory for cintron (or, the far off chance of mayweather). what is this pissing matching going on in this thread for?

Berto isn't ready yet. This would be a sparring session for Floyd. Don't get me wrong I like Berto, but it's too early in the day for those fights.

Berto is serious. The two fights won't happen though. But he will hold a title. He can bang/box. And he's coming along beautifully. I think being knocked down was a good thing for him.

My "mentality" needs no progression towards Floyd. I think I understand exactly what he's about. There's a chance in this fight that Floyd has finally picked the wrong cherry. If he hasn't picked the wrong cherry and beats hatton and beats your prediction of the fight, you as a fan either give him his due credit or continue to belittle him in some kind of way. That's the mentality I was talking about. We shall see what you do after the results are out.

Good, thanks for letting me know. We shall see how your mentality progresses towards Floyd Mayweather if (when) he beats Hatton. My "mentality" needs no progression towards Floyd. I think I understand exactly what he's about. There's a chance in this fight that Floyd has finally picked the wrong cherry.

Not after the attack I refuted. But to change the subject: Yes...I've already put points up. But, I think it will be a closely run affair. IMO Ricky has the advantage of coming in with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Floyd has the burden. So this will help. Good, thanks for letting me know. We shall see how your mentality progresses towards Floyd Mayweather if (when) he beats Hatton.

You're not driving anything home. If anything you're losing credibility as a boxing fan going on and on about a retired fighter. Find a new shtick to attack floyd. For starters, are you picking Hatton to beat him? Not after the attack I refuted. But to change the subject: Yes...I've already put points up. But, I think it will be a closely run affair. IMO Ricky has the advantage of coming in with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Floyd has the burden. So this will help.

We are done with it. But, after the all the bs Dios gave me, I can't help but drive the point home just a bit. You're not driving anything home. If anything you're losing credibility as a boxing fan going on and on about a retired fighter. Find a new shtick to attack floyd. For starters, are you picking Hatton to beat him?

I thought we were done with this Wiley? Why are you forcing people to talk about Kostya again??? We are done with it. But, after the all the bs Dios gave me, I can't help but drive the point home just a bit.

Factor, Berto spent the past two fights getting hit. If Estrada had more pop, he would have been in trouble. Hell, if his corner didn't take a chainsaw to his glove, he might have been stopped by Cosme Rivera. I think Estrada should just be given credit for figthing a gutty fight, he tested Berto and Berto passed the test. If anything my opinion of Berto went up in that fight in that he was able to finish and win a grueling fight like that against a veteran fighter who was there to win. I dont know who would have been able to take the kind of punishment Berto put on Estrada and keep coming forward the way he did for that many rounds. Berto's a tough fight for anybody at 147.

And of course you forgot to mention Tszyu being the best at 140. I thought we were done with this Wiley? Why are you forcing people to talk about Kostya again???

Why does Cintron garner so much respect from people on here. As I see it, his biggest moment was losing to a guy who most give littel to no respect on here. Cintron is still a green fighter. He wouls be a perfect step up for Berto. I think its a pick em fight. Cintron's power is overrated and Berto's speed is what would keep him in a Cintron fight. Neither guy does any one thing great. They both are top 10 guys at WW. Probably numbers 9 and 10. cintron is about 2 or 3 very dangerous steps up for berto. cintron could very easily end a career with his right hand. i want to see berto around for a while because he can be great. This is not even close to a pick 'em fight, it's a "pick what round cintron concusses his ass" fight. At this point, Berto keeps his hands low and gets hit a lot. Cintron doesnt need to hit you a lot. This fight smells of bad idea.

I have ALWAYS said that the fighter makes the belt. The belt doesn't make the fighter. The reality is that Chicanito, manfredy, chavez and corrales were among the best at 130. Castillo was the best at 135. Hatton is the best at 140. JUdah and Baldomir were not the best at 147, but they were top 5. And Oscar is among the best 2 or 3 at 154. If that is a padded legacy, then so be it. And of course you forgot to mention Tszyu being the best at 140.

Why does Cintron garner so much respect from people on here. As I see it, his biggest moment was losing to a guy who most give littel to no respect on here. Cintron is still a green fighter. He wouls be a perfect step up for Berto. I think its a pick em fight. Cintron's power is overrated and Berto's speed is what would keep him in a Cintron fight. Neither guy does any one thing great. They both are top 10 guys at WW. Probably numbers 9 and 10.

He's a thick boy. I think i heard somewhere he couldnt make it down to 140. he would be a monster if he could. i want to see him go to the body more, that's what he would need to do against the bigger guys. his constant head hunting could get him in some trouble. you're absolutely right

I'd like to see Berto vs Quintana. thats a much better idea than making him a mandatory. oktay or joel julio would work, too. they would be good steps up in competition.

He seems naturally smaller than those top guys, maybe he should drop down in weight if he can effectively. Estrada was getting to him, and Berto was feeling it. He's a thick boy. I think i heard somewhere he couldnt make it down to 140. he would be a monster if he could. i want to see him go to the body more, that's what he would need to do against the bigger guys. his constant head hunting could get him in some trouble.

I'd like to see Berto vs Quintana.

I think anyone at the top (Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Cintron, Pwil, Marg, clottey, and maybe collazo) all beat berto at this point. It's ridiculous of his handlers to even consider these fights, unless they think that berto is as good as he is going to get, which i sincerely doubt. He seems naturally smaller than those top guys, maybe he should drop down in weight if he can effectively. Estrada was getting to him, and Berto was feeling it.