Kelly Pavlik leaped into that blue chip yacht that was being leased from Emanual Steward and broke it up. And, Jermain Taylor was chewed up and swallowed like Captain Quint in the mouth of the great white shark in the movie "Jaws". Why will Floyd Mayweather, Jr.'s fight with Ricky Hatton be any different? There is one big reason:
Unlike Steward, Floyd's handlers have no pride. They know their boy can win decisions by simply staying away, and pecking the opponent to death. Floyd has been known to figuratively sprout wings to avoid trading with a dangerous opponent. The comparison to the mythological winged horse, Pegasus, is not unwarranted. Floyd's defensive skills have taken the art of boxing to a new high, and "Lil' Floyd" will NOT be sacrificed out of pride.
So don't expect Floyd to float into Hatton's waiting jaws, for that boat will not even be in the water. The Floyd-Hatton contest will be totally different from the Taylor debacle. Floyd will be flying high saying, "Come and get me if you can." It's up to Hatton to clip his wings. How can he do it?
My analysis: Hatton must burrow in. Yes, Corley scored from the outside with the right hand, but he was a southpaw. Write Slap Slap's fight off. One could also visualize how prime Tszyu would have handled Floyd, and handle him he would with that magical counter, but IMO Hatton is no Tszyu. But, as evidenced by the Hatton-Tszyu fight, Hatton does have unique abilities of his own, and so to the N'dou fight we go. N'dou got to Floyd, but N'dou was wildly inaccurate and didn't have the power necessary to break Floyd down. Hatton has accuracy and power. Hatton must especially target the body with his left hook to eventually bring Floyd's right hand down, making him vulnerable to the left hook upstairs. If there's a way to get through Floyd's "Philly Shell," that's it, IMO.
What is your analysis Hatton supporters? Put your money where your mouth is (I am). What should be his game plan? Surely it's more than just a hope and a prayer.
This is coming from somebody who has never particularly been a KT fan : he looked ordinary. He did not appear strong or crisp. He caught hatton coming in on a few occasions, but wasn't sharp. He should have timed RH much more.
Castillo looked MORE shot (stumbling, etc) than KT, though.
Ok. Fair enough. That's about as close as you will ever come to just saying it: Tszyu was still formidable. lol
I have to hit the sack. Good night, Dios.
Several times.
Age, activity, durabilty. Which of these indicators point towards Tszyu being prime?
He was never a particularly fast fighter. He was never swift of foot or elusive. So, an aging, orthodox-style fighter got mauled. And hasn't fought since.
But still, you won't address how he looked. Did Tszyu look washed up to you? An honest answer please.
p.s. he had very fast hand speed, if that counts as being a "fast boxer."
So, Kostya Tszyu was the only lightweight in history to not be slowing down by age 36.
That's fantastic.
You simply look at age. You didn't watch the fight, did you?
Here is my question:
If you denigrate the Mayweather win over 34 yr DLH @ 154, how can you laud the Hatton win over 36 yr old KT @ 140?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
That was not an answer. We were talking about Hatton's win over Tszyu.
Will anyone be answering this question?
Tszyu is HOF. He's one of the greatest jr. welters of all time. Prime? I don't know about "prime." You have to point to a fight to make an opinion of that. You simply look at the Hatton fight and deduce Tszyu was washed up because Hatton won. Look at the bias there. Did you see the fight? Hatton was a relentless beast.
Don't write off the win over Tszyu so easily. It distorts your perception.
Wiley... Don't you have a cross to go burn or something? Or is that Thursdays?
Where are you coming up with this shit? Do you really want to know the color of my skin? Is that important to you?
Yep. Got it.
The 3:1 underdog who has not yet fought an elite, prime boxer is going to dominate the 38-0 p4p king with the vastly better resume and skills.
The guy who was almost LO'd by Luis "Charmin" Collazo is going to KO the guy who beat Delahoya at 154. Without a doubt.
This guy:
is going to run right through the fighter who has been on the P4P list for TEN YEARS.
I'm all clear.
Yeah, Tszyu was not "elite." LOL You just look right through the facts, as if they didn't exist.
Wiley. You probably need to adjust the sheet on your head.
Earth calling Dios. Earth calling Dios. You're not yourself tonight. You're rattled over the Taylor fight. Nobody thinks that you have less boxing knowledge because you missed a pick! OK? Now get back in the saddle and get back to boxing.
Let's see now... Dios is unbalanced for saying that Mayweather will dominate hatton.
But Easton is completely balanced in saying that Hatton will dominate mayweather. When hatton has never FOUGHT a p4p fighter in his prime.
Oh. Got it.
Thanks, honey.
Got it? Good, stick to avatars-It's what you do best my Friend. I will handle the analysis from here on out!
I love Dios. He is seriously detached in his veiws. It takes an unbalance person to suggest that Mayweather will Completely dominate a 43-0 p4p fighter in his prime when Floyd has never done that in his career.
Before he replies about corrales-that fight was at 130. Floyd hasn't domianted a world class p4p guy since that fight, oops he hasn't fout a prime p4p guy since that fight!
Castillo wasn't p4p when they fought maybe fringe p4p when he a Corrales fought.
Floyd whole career can be debated, how the hell one would say he will dominate any legit prime guy at this point is beyond me!
We are discussing dios though.
Yeah. Dios' posts can be entertaining in the lengths he will go to win an argument. I mean he can just plain devolve into shrieking hysterics, and then regain his composure and lay a good argument on you. It's funny. Definitely one of the more interesting of the Mayweatherites because at least he will make an argument. The rest of them are so arrogant about it that they basically just say, "Floyd is the best, so why even waste your time talking about it?" It does get old because they really cannot analyse it, and when they do it's irrational because it's so biased.
Dios, your drivel is even more unbalanced than before.. "black fighter cabal"?? "Racist impulses"?? What the hell are you talking about? And you did pick Taylor to win. Get over it. You missed the boat, or should I say the Titanic, that was coming.
I love Dios. He is seriously detached in his veiws. It takes an unbalance person to suggest that Mayweather will Completely dominate a 43-0 p4p fighter in his prime when Floyd has never done that in his career.
Before he replies about corrales-that fight was at 130. Floyd hasn't domianted a world class p4p guy since that fight, oops he hasn't fout a prime p4p guy since that fight!
Castillo wasn't p4p when they fought maybe fringe p4p when he a Corrales fought.
Floyd whole career can be debated, how the hell one would say he will dominate any legit prime guy at this point is beyond me!
We are discussing dios though.
Hyena.... Wishful thinking doesn't make it so, sweetie
Do you mean the Taylor fight where I said that my head says Taylor UD, but my heart says Pavlik by KO 9? That one?
I know that you figure there is some type of "black fighter" cabal... but that ain't so, honey. Let your racist impulses go. I'm not American and I've been waiting for that Hillbilly to lose for a long time.
You should get back to studying six year old fights to try to find a way for Ricky to win. Run along.
:kiss:
Dios, your drivel is even more unbalanced than before.. "black fighter cabal"?? "Racist impulses"?? What the hell are you talking about? And you did pick Taylor to win. Get over it. You missed the boat, or should I say the Titanic, that was coming.
The good thing is... they gotta fight!! That is why we love the sport.
Easton, you can get 6:1 odds on a Hatton stoppage of PBF. If I were you, I would deplete my 401K to increase my nest egg 6-fold
Yep, you could get better odds than that on Douglas stopping Tyson-oh, wait that was so ridiculous there werent even odds were there?
Lets see what those odds are come fight night!
You are a victim of the machine dios. You accept media driven hype at face value and therefore render yourself impotent when it comes to objectivity.
You are not the first!
Hyena.... Wishful thinking doesn't make it so, sweetie
Do you mean the Taylor fight where I said that my head says Taylor UD, but my heart says Pavlik by KO 9? That one?
I know that you figure there is some type of "black fighter" cabal... but that ain't so, honey. Let your racist impulses go. I'm not American and I've been waiting for that Hillbilly to lose for a long time.
You should get back to studying six year old fights to try to find a way for Ricky to win. Run along.
:kiss:
I hope yer a chick Dios. Words like Honey, and Sweetie just don't sound cool comming from a guys mouth-ya feel me?
Round 1: Floyd comes out and stands in the middle of the ring. Fairly flat-footed. He is trying to gauge Hatton's strength and speed, and is tuning up his defense. Ricky is catious and throws less than usual. He has a good measure of respect for PBF's speed and counter-punching. He won't get reckless. Ricky was busier. Round 1 Hatton.
Rd 2: Ricky picks up the pace, and so does Floyd. Mayweather still isn't in form, and they fight a fairly busy but close round. Hatton eats some uppercuts and counter-rights. But RH is determined because he knows that he has to establish his fight. They may end up near/on the ropes. It is becoming clear now to Rick that he is not the stronger man in the ring. Close round. Either way. Probably Hatton on activity.
Rds 3/4: Mayweather is busier than in the first coupla rounds. He is landing consistently hard shots now, and blocking Hatton's increasingly wide shots. On some occasions, RH comes inside, clinches and tries to maul. PBF is retaliating by pushing off with the elbow/forearm, and the ref warns him. The first signs of wear appear on Rick's face. Rds 3/4 are Mayweather.
Rds 5/6/7: It is starting to get a bit ugly, and the outcome of the fight is clear now. Hatton, unable to muscle Floyd, and with a considerable skill/speed disadvantage, is getting hit too much. Ricky, being a gamer, rallies. But his face is starting to open badly, and he hasn't solved the puzzle of how to get to Floyd consistently. Perhaps RH takes one of these rounds, but this middle part of the fight is where FMJ really pulls away.
Rds 8/9: Very ugly. Very. At times, it looks "sixth-round-of-the-Gatti-fight-esque". Ricky, uncharacteristically, is fatiguing and his face is a mess. The ref and/or ring doctor has already taken a good look. Floyd puts his foot on the gas. He stays on the perimeter but is launching hard, straight stuff.
Hatton's corner, in a smart decision to preserve their fighter's health and psyche, elects not to send him out for round 10.
Mayweather TKO 9 Hatton.
Bet the farm.
I agree with round 1.
Round2" Hatton comes out and closes the distance,Floyd immediatly goes into the shell ,Hatton skips left and right torqueing hooks to the body, tMayweather tries to tie up Hatton and Hatton begins bruising his ribs with short,vicous hooks to the body followed by a short uppercut that snaps Floys head back. Floyd gets on his bike and doesn't stop till the bell rings.
3/4: Hatton is picking up the pace and Mayweather doesn't hang around for much action content to peck away at Hatton waiting for the little bastard to slow down a bit. Mayweather takes these rounds because HBO has a vested stake in his Career and the judges are pro American. Meanwhile Hatton fans are going WTF? Lederman is a fukin prik anyway.
5/6. Larry Merchant is getting pissed. Statement like "you can't win a FIGHT GOING BACKWARDS" START TO EMINATE FROM THE LUSH. Then Lampley, the ever consistant dick rider proclaims that this is a boxing match and not a street fight, to which Larry retorts" yeah, but we didn't pay to see a leprechaun chase down the kids for his lucky charms-we paid to see a fight. Manny will be quite during all this and in the ring Hatton will be slowely wearing Mayweather down. Five to Mayweather-6 to Hatton.
7/8 Floyd's face is really starting to show the signs of Hattons rough house tactics. Mayweather is finding himself on the ropess more and more, but his reflexes are still saving him from the punishment upstair. Hatton is still working the body consistantly, but now the right and the uppercut are starting to find a home. Both men have their moment and Lampley is making this fight sound like the fight to end all fights-Meanwhile Merchant is somewhere deep in thought only chiming in occasionally- Manny starts a rant about the Taylor debacle and finds a way to tie it into this fight.
9/10 Mayweather looks the worst he ever has now. Hatton is cut but still closing and still landing alot of leather. Floyd is content to be less mobile now and tries to use lateral movement to avoid Hattons onslaught. Out of nowhere Hatton lands a left to the body followed up by a vicous upperct with the same hand and Mayweather reels back stepping in postholes. (every Mayweather fan on the planet collectively gasps) as Hatton bulls his way in and Mayweather crumples to the floor. Mayweather doen not get, he is content to stay down and is counted out.
When the cards are read, Mayweather will be ahead by a wide margin. And everyone will call bullshit except his fans who will immidiatly claim Hatton Cheated and was dirty and the ref sucked and that Hatton sucks and most of all Easton sucks because he is a fukin cocksucker And i hate him..
Meanwhile, back at the BatCave- Ill be sippin a crown and seven LMFAO!
The Ndou fight was at 135...and Castillo was shot when Hatton fought him. Cotto is a better body puncher than Hatton. Only one guy had success against Mayweather going to the body. Castillo, and Mayweather had a torn rotator cuff and it was still a close fight. Everybody planned to get close to Floyd, and they failed. Judah and Oscar are better and stronger than Hatton. Hatton won't be punishing anyone.
Well we're discussing possible tactics here. You just say screw the debate because Floyd's going to win. We're familiar with the arguments running down the competition and all the excuses. How does N'dou being at 135 shitcan Easton's opinion? For that matter, how does Castillo losing a step shitcan the contention that Hatton hits hard to the body?
Round 1: Floyd comes out and stands in the middle of the ring. Fairly flat-footed. He is trying to gauge Hatton's strength and speed, and is tuning up his defense. Ricky is catious and throws less than usual. He has a good measure of respect for PBF's speed and counter-punching. He won't get reckless. Ricky was busier. Round 1 Hatton.
Rd 2: Ricky picks up the pace, and so does Floyd. Mayweather still isn't in form, and they fight a fairly busy but close round. Hatton eats some uppercuts and counter-rights. But RH is determined because he knows that he has to establish his fight. They may end up near/on the ropes. It is becoming clear now to Rick that he is not the stronger man in the ring. Close round. Either way. Probably Hatton on activity.
Rds 3/4: Mayweather is busier than in the first coupla rounds. He is landing consistently hard shots now, and blocking Hatton's increasingly wide shots. On some occasions, RH comes inside, clinches and tries to maul. PBF is retaliating by pushing off with the elbow/forearm, and the ref warns him. The first signs of wear appear on Rick's face. Rds 3/4 are Mayweather.
Rds 5/6/7: It is starting to get a bit ugly, and the outcome of the fight is clear now. Hatton, unable to muscle Floyd, and with a considerable skill/speed disadvantage, is getting hit too much. Ricky, being a gamer, rallies. But his face is starting to open badly, and he hasn't solved the puzzle of how to get to Floyd consistently. Perhaps RH takes one of these rounds, but this middle part of the fight is where FMJ really pulls away.
Rds 8/9: Very ugly. Very. At times, it looks "sixth-round-of-the-Gatti-fight-esque". Ricky, uncharacteristically, is fatiguing and his face is a mess. The ref and/or ring doctor has already taken a good look. Floyd puts his foot on the gas. He stays on the perimeter but is launching hard, straight stuff.
Hatton's corner, in a smart decision to preserve their fighter's health and psyche, elects not to send him out for round 10.
Mayweather TKO 9 Hatton.
Bet the farm.
Oh, hello Dios. Glad to see you've come out of your state of shock over the Taylor debacle. Remember I told you so!
Ok....will read your post and reply in a moment, if necessary.
Edit: Read it. Disagree with it. Kind of reminds me of your opinions on how Taylor was going to dismantle Pavlik. But, you are of course entitled to your opinion.
It will be the Philly shell that will end mayweather in this fight. Watch every single Mayweather fight and when the opponent starts to unload Floyd tucks his chin and begins to go totally defensive. He doesn't open up until there is a break in the onslaught.
He is not a true counter puncher in that sense. A true counter puncher punches with his opponent, Floyd on the other hand likes to punch when he feels safe. There is a difference.
That begs one question. If Ndou can close on Mayweather and throw 15 unanswered punches, what can Hatton do?
Get the drift.
I think his fans aren't analyzing this fight correctly. They assume Hatton won't get close enough to floyd, but what they are not seeing is that many fighters with less closing ability have managed to get close-they just weren't effective when they got close.
Hatton doesn't need the head shot to be effective. He will rip to the body all night and Floyd is gonna feel it. Castillo never left his feet in an entire career, shot or not, That kind of body attack will hurt anyone alive, including the great Floyd Mayweather.
You can't shoulder roll out of a vicious body shot!
Hatton tko10 or sooner!
The Ndou fight was at 135...and Castillo was shot when Hatton fought him. Cotto is a better body puncher than Hatton. Only one guy had success against Mayweather going to the body. Castillo, and Mayweather had a torn rotator cuff and it was still a close fight. Everybody planned to get close to Floyd, and they failed. Judah and Oscar are better and stronger than Hatton. Hatton won't be punishing anyone.