I've really noticed among my friends and a lot of people on this board that they root for people based on skin color. why is that? i appreciate black fighters (taylor, mosley, clottey), white fighters (pavlik, hatton, wlad), asian fighters, latin/ hispanic fighters. all my friends wanted to root for pavlik because he was white, and i just didnt get that. i was rooting for taylor (more for manny than for taylor, but i do really like taylor), but wasnt upset that pavlik won. it was a great fight for so many reasons (not PPV, both fighters hit the canvas, big punches).
race is still an issue because we allow it to be. shit, in the latin/ hispanic culture racism is based upon country of origin. With everyone oppressing each other the man doesnt have to get his hands dirty.
Just like infants respond more to women who look like their mothers, so it is human nature and in ingrained genetic switch in us that leads us to prefer boxers who look like us. This is not racist, but rather basic human psychology. I'm Mediterranean and if two boxers are in the ring, one who looks like Sam Peter and the other who looks like Rocky Marciano are both unknowns, I'm biologically going to prefer the guy who looks like Marciano. Not because I'm racist, but because there is a genetic switch in like like everyone on this planet to respond to people who look similar to me.
Get off this shit already and don't make such a big deal about it. People are just people.
I am not a racist.
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FAIL!
Ta_Khent, NICE av, bad book.
But anyway, color-struckism in boxing is gonna stick around for a while because there will always be this one wack mothafucka who will bring up race in some form. :D
I've really noticed among my friends and a lot of people on this board that they root for people based on skin color. why is that? i appreciate black fighters (taylor, mosley, clottey), white fighters (pavlik, hatton, wlad), asian fighters, latin/ hispanic fighters. all my friends wanted to root for pavlik because he was white, and i just didnt get that. i was rooting for taylor (more for manny than for taylor, but i do really like taylor), but wasnt upset that pavlik won. it was a great fight for so many reasons (not PPV, both fighters hit the canvas, big punches).
race is still an issue because we allow it to be. shit, in the latin/ hispanic culture racism is based upon country of origin. With everyone oppressing each other the man doesnt have to get his hands dirty. I don't consider that really racist, only when racial comments are made about any fighter.
It seems pretty normal for one to want his or her race to win. There are other choices like wanting you church denomination, or a family member, or a hometowner to win,,,I get to the point where I sometimes route for a white in boxing, the the blacks / Asians in TENNIS,,,I sometimes go for the underdogs.
tennis has been Euro dominated, so I route for USA guy James Blake, who is pretty darn good. But then I route for Nash in basketball. This is not always the case with me ( i WANTED tAYLOR )..But about 1/3 of the time, I find myself guilty of that, but mostly with the new guys, such a Andy Lee, but I also like Dawson...BTW, MOST Hispanics are considered white...But PACMAN is alao one of my favorites
Boxing is a race war, yall need to take off your PC pants and quit being homosexuals in denial. It's been about race since the first negro stepped in the ring e.g. "The Bad Negro (-e +i -ro +ger)" JJ.
Racism isn't a social construct either. It's an unconscious, natural human instinct. We should learn to deal with it until it becomes just a minor annoyance. We're pretty close now.
To those of you who claim to be "color blind" when it comes to who you root for and who you favor. I'd bet bout $1,000 dollars that you couldn't pass a lie detector test if you were asked if race mattered to you. Your genes know the truth.
I suggest you read "The Isis Papers" by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing.
Boxing is a race war, yall need to take off your PC pants and quit being homosexuals in denial. It's been about race since the first negro stepped in the ring e.g. "The Bad Negro (-e +i -ro +ger)" JJ.
Racism isn't a social construct either. It's an unconscious, natural human instinct. We should learn to deal with it until it becomes just a minor annoyance. We're pretty close now.
To those of you who claim to be "color blind" when it comes to who you root for and who you favor. I'd bet bout $1,000 dollars that you couldn't pass a lie detector test if you were asked if race mattered to you. Your genes know the truth.
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Lmaooooooooooooooooooo... laughing is a great thing...heals the soul....ok ill just make one point............
its dangerous to be racist.......
but its just as dangerous to think everything is racist............
"i completely agree with what your saying, but i dont see this as a big of an issue, because im talking about liking or disliking a boxer, and i dont know that there are that many homosexual boxers out there. if there are, and the kick ass, more power to them. their sexual preference should not play a role in whether or not you like them. i mean look at emile griffith; that was one bad ass gay man."
Agree 100% with you, just had a bad day thats all :nonono: But there is allways a tomorrow :rofl:
Regarding racism and other bashing going around at this board, nothing beat all the gay bashing at this board (or other others for the matter). If its not: Thats gay, acts gay, looks gay, fights gay, talks gay etc, its something else. Beeing gay and like boxing sure is not easy :nonono: Dont like how people allways have to write f@g all the time, its degenerating. Dont think black persons like to hear the N word, its for me the same thing. Luckily there are some people around the board thats more mature and, have other things to discuss.
i completely agree with what your saying, but i dont see this as a big of an issue, because im talking about liking or disliking a boxer, and i dont know that there are that many homosexual boxers out there. if there are, and the kick ass, more power to them. their sexual preference should not play a role in whether or not you like them. i mean look at emile griffith; that was one bad ass gay man.
There's only two colors that really matter anyway - black and white.
The others don't mean much of anything.
They're just different shades of black and white.
Black is a shade of brown, which is Latino, which is a shade of white :banana:
There's only two colors that really matter anyway - black and white.
The others don't mean much of anything.
They're just different shades of black and white.
Very shallow and inaccurate way of viewing the world.. Especially when genetic studies suggest the Europeans are derived from differentiated African and Asiatic populations..
http://www.pnas.org/content/vol94/issue15/images/medium/pq1671509001.gif:)
i haven't posted here for long, but this is something i've definately noticed, especailly among the white posters (i assume their white b/c they always seem to favor teh white fighters, and say something biased against the black figthers, i.e. "wlad")
i'd expect that from ordinary, casual fans, b/c they need somebody to identify with. but being on a boxing forum you would think people would look past color
another obvious sign that many (not all, or most) people are racist/have racist tendencies
Regarding racism and other bashing going around at this board, nothing beat all the gay bashing at this board (or other others for the matter). If its not: Thats gay, acts gay, looks gay, fights gay, talks gay etc, its something else. Beeing gay and like boxing sure is not easy :nonono: Dont like how people allways have to write f@g all the time, its degenerating. Dont think black persons like to hear the N word, its for me the same thing. Luckily there are some people around the board thats more mature and, have other things to discuss.
There's only two colors that really matter anyway - black and white.
The others don't mean much of anything.
They're just different shades of black and white.
That's remarkably ignorant. You have literally painted the world in black and white.
Too bad 2 billion Chinese might have something to say about that very sheltered world view.
I've really noticed among my friends and a lot of people on this board that they root for people based on skin color. why is that? i appreciate black fighters (taylor, mosley, clottey), white fighters (pavlik, hatton, wlad), asian fighters, latin/ hispanic fighters. all my friends wanted to root for pavlik because he was white, and i just didnt get that. i was rooting for taylor (more for manny than for taylor, but i do really like taylor), but wasnt upset that pavlik won. it was a great fight for so many reasons (not PPV, both fighters hit the canvas, big punches).
race is still an issue because we allow it to be. shit, in the latin/ hispanic culture racism is based upon country of origin. With everyone oppressing each other the man doesnt have to get his hands dirty.
I think you need to grab a dictionary...The definition of racism is prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races. How is rooting for someone similar to you the same as prejudice and animosity toward other races? Your thread title doesn't make sense at all. If you had said your friends were rooting for Pavlik because Taylor is black, that would have made more sense.
first of, why am i an idiot? i made an observation and you resort to calling me names.
it goes all ways, not just white people liking white people. liking kelly for being a great fighter is fine, it just seems people want to put WHITE on his resume, like it's a positive or negative. his color has nothing to do with how he fights, but everyone seemed excited about a "white" champion.um so?! why does that bother you? To be honest, race comes into play whether you like it or not. Rarely has there ever been a dominant white champion, now, people believe it's Pavlik, so they root for him.
People cheer for Pavlik not cause of his skin colour you idiot, but because he is a bad ass fighter. I always cheer against Malignaggi and I am white. I am not even big on Wlad. I used to be big on Vitaly cause of his determination and strength of character.
first of, why am i an idiot? i made an observation and you resort to calling me names.
it goes all ways, not just white people liking white people. liking kelly for being a great fighter is fine, it just seems people want to put WHITE on his resume, like it's a positive or negative. his color has nothing to do with how he fights, but everyone seemed excited about a "white" champion.
Giiiit the fuck outta here, lol there's nothin racist about rooting for a fighter due to skin color. I mean so a certain person identify's with a certain race of a fighter more then a fighter that isnt the same race. So fuckin what? It's not like because of that, racial slur's are gonna be tossed around. You just chose to root for that guy, because thats your brethren.
Racism isnt based upon slurs. slurs can be racist, though, but racisim is an ideology that says "i like/value/dont like/ despise this person more than this person because his skin color is this". and as far as the brethren stuff goes, you would be more correct to root based upon blood type, because that actually has an effect on DNA, where as skin color does not.