ESPN: Mosely Used Steroids

Tunney, moron...this happened in '03 and he admitted it in '07. Yet you have to nerve to accuse of him steroids right after the Margarito fight and then cry when someone questions Vitali who admitted and was kicked off the Ukrainian Olympic team for taking illegal steroids. Thanks for your daily dose of hypocrisy, it's always enjoyable.

That's for the pm AL HAYMON. LOL Next time i will look at the original post date. lol

First time I don't agree with you; this is just not true. They are "caught" more because the media wants to make an example of them. Ken Caminiti died because of steroids, the All-American boy McGuire was the biggest juicer around, then Bonds breaks the record and he also did steroids. Add to that Clemens, Pettite, Giambi - these are all top guys, top AMERICAN guys. I truly believe the media wanted to take attention away from all the American guys doing it, and thus started to look at Sosa, Palmeiro, Alex, Manny, etc. I'm not denying those guys used steroids, but they are being made an example of because they are Latino. Maybe...or maybe everyone's using. **edit** I will say that the way Barry Bonds was treated was downright disgusting.

And i know that you're Dominican...so this is said with much respect. But Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and Venezolanos are the biggest culprits in roid abuse. At least they get caught more. ...and the Mets line-up was heavily Latino. First time I don't agree with you; this is just not true. They are "caught" more because the media wants to make an example of them. Ken Caminiti died because of steroids, the All-American boy McGuire was the biggest juicer around, then Bonds breaks the record and he also did steroids. Add to that Clemens, Pettite, Giambi - these are all top guys, top AMERICAN guys. I truly believe the media wanted to take attention away from all the American guys doing it, and thus started to look at Sosa, Palmeiro, Alex, Manny, etc. I'm not denying those guys used steroids, but they are being made an example of because they are Latino.

To the briefcase. Yes, exactly. Floyd will cite this NSB thread as the reason not to fight Mosley. And the boxing media will be okay with it. Yes...you get it. :lol1: All I'm saying is that, you get a MAJOR SPORT BROADCASTING giant ESPN behind the promoting machine...and media support to the general public to discredit Mosely who was a user of BALCO products, and POOF a fight is no longer appealing to the mass public. Let's face it...I'd discredit him too if I had to face comparable opposition. Instead, let's get a wild puncher/boxer who happens to be a more lucrative,and possibly more tailored for PBF. Yea...I got it AL...sounds plausible to me.

Do you remember how, in the first couple of rounds, Merchant was saying how Vargas was "supernaturally strong tonight" against Oscar? I'll try to find that clip. I definitely remember. Vargas wasn't doing it right though--definitely gained too much muscle. He was gasping for air from round 7 on.

Shane and Pacquiao have BIG fucking heads too :lol1:

Without roids he is gonna go out mid way through the fight, thats what they want, the boxing world. Its how it works, Berto will get the best of him, watch and see, they dont want Mayweather-Cotto, they want Berto-Cotto. well if shane mosley did use steroids the he should be ashamed of himself and all of his professional accomplishments will be in question and its a shame that he felt he needed drugs to help get ready for oscar dela hoya and other fights if that is in fact true..who cares now

I never believe these athletes when they give the period of time that they juiced. They miraculously ONLY juiced for the period of time that they got busted. Every one of them compresses the timeline down to just the failed test or evidenciary period. I think Shane did steroids for longer. I think steroids helped him move from 135 to 147 without losing anything. I say this because BALCO was not a "famous" place and only insiders were privy to that. Shane was in the culture of steroids to know about it. I think BALCO were Shane's best steroids... but not his first. I doubt he used them AFTER he got busted...

@ LW. But yeah... if he kept juicing at BALCO, he would have been a LHW Hahahaha. I thought something was really off with Mosley at 154. Noticeably slower but incredibly strong. Remember that right to the ribs he doubled Oscar over with around the 9th? Weird..

Yeah, RJ. But the HoF is about accomplishment. Not ability. Shane had TONS of ability at LW. But he didn't beat anybody. At all. It would be like saying Ricky hatton is HoF for his first 40 fights (pre-Tszyu). Yeah, it's a shame. Shane's career was going nowhere at LHW.

And i know that you're Dominican...so this is said with much respect. But Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and Venezolanos are the biggest culprits in roid abuse. At least they get caught more. ...and the Mets line-up was heavily Latino. Manny, Ortiz...I'm a Mets fan but I couldn't say I was proud of them as a Dominican. Nothing in Baseball surprises me anymore, I expect Pujols to get caught next :lol1:

I heard that it helped the blood circulate alot faster. Your saying it doesn't increase stamina, I heard otherwise. Thats EPO which increases the chance of survival of Red Blood Cells, The Clear doesnt...

What? You don't know what Steroids do, do you? Balco didn't promote EPO they supplied "the clear" Tetrahydrogestrinone, and it was banned in 03' the year Mosley supposedly knowing used it. Its essentially an anabolic steroid but was not recognised as one until 03' They DON'T increase your stamina they are like artificial hormones and allow you to exercise and work out for longer with more lean muscle gains, it helps retain proteins in the body that would otherwise be lost through normal means which increases the mass of muscle, bones and skin. I heard that it helped the blood circulate alot faster. Your saying it doesn't increase stamina, I heard otherwise.

I thought Mosley himself said he used Balco. Yeah, he went to Balco but says he didn't know they were illegal which would make sense if he was just taking the clear since it was only banned in 03' But yeah honestly, I think he took them for the 2nd oscar fight a fight which I think Oscar just did enough to get the nod. I think he took them because he was coming off 4 loses to the two same fighters and though he needed some sort of boost. Obviously after being found out, he wouldn't take them again. I'd assume the commissions would be extra through in their testing.

That, my friend, is an EXCELLENT question. One for which I believe RJ is currently perusing BoxRec. Yeah. Thank god for that shit, boy. I guess it's more of a testament to the state of the Boxing HOF than Mosley's accomplishments, but the run he went on after winning the title at lightweight was impressive as hell. We'll probably never see a fighter defend his title that often in that amount of time, with such a high KO ratio again. I've said it before and I'll say it again: fastest lightweight I've ever seen.

RyNo, You are wrong, sir. BALCO absolutely did, did, did include EPO as part of the cocktail. Their cocktail included the cream and clear, Procrit (epo), insulin, sometimes hGh, and modafinil. In addition to some masking agents. They included EPO to the extent that they performed blood tests to monitor the hematocrit levels of the athletes. Please verify your statements, sir. Yeah, I was aware they did some testing using EPO on atheletes to test red bloods cell counts etc. But I didn't think they supplied it, I do know that The Clear, the cream and HGh were supplied but they promoted the drug as The Clear...

Actully, HGH has done the opposite. If you think about Bonds, Clemsns, Romanowski, Seau (yes), etc...those guys maintained and elevated their performances late in their careers. At 40-ish. Boxers don't have to be on a baseball/football type program where they have a long season. Here's Vargas' roid body: http://www.insideboxing.com/Inside_Coverage/bad_blood/photos/PhotoDraw369.jpg Those two I know about, Good point though. Boxers don't get as injured though but then again, baseball players are way more active. You seen how the whole Mets line up was injured?

RyNo, You are wrong, sir. BALCO absolutely did, did, did include EPO as part of the cocktail. Their cocktail included the cream and clear, Procrit (epo), insulin, sometimes hGh, and modafinil. In addition to some masking agents. They included EPO to the extent that they performed blood tests to monitor the hematocrit levels of the athletes. Please verify your statements, sir. mosley ko1 mayweather