OVERWHELMINGLY in favor of the champ, JERMAIN TAYLOR
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The selections of boxing media members in the middleweight title fight between Jermain Taylor and unbeaten challenger Kelly Pavlik:
Carlos Arias, Orange County Register: Pavlik TKO8
Ron Borges, HBO.com: Taylor TKO11
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: Taylor W12
Thomas Gerbasi, MaxBoxing.com: Taylor W12
Tim Graham, Buffalo News: Pavlik W12
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: Taylor W12
Chuck Johnson, USA Today: Taylor TKO10
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: Pavlik W12
Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters: Taylor W12
Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: Taylor W12
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: Taylor W12
Dave Weinberg, Atlantic City Press: Taylor KO5
George Willis, New York Post: Taylor TKO10
I respect Ron Borges's opinion the most, maybe he sees something im missing.
This should be a war. Taylor TKO5 and Pavlik TKO8 are the most accurate Picks IN MY OPINION
somebody called fulgencio zuniga a bum... theyre the bum
zuniga got knocked out by pavlik at middle, stepped up 8 pounds to super middle and knocked out victor oganov who was 26-0 w/ 26 KO's
mckart has won 3 straight fights since being knocked out by pavlik (only time in his career) and recently defeated enrique ornelas for the NABO middleweight title.
taylor fought cory spinks... a genuine piece of shit and bona fide 147 pounder
u just showed how dumb u are
Lets take a look at the 5 fighters TAYLOR fought BEFORE he challenged for the title:
Edouard - Tough guy, weak skills. I actually commend Taylor for stopping him how he did
Joppy - Joppy was FADED.
Martinez- Balogna fight
Bunema - ???
Rios - ???
That list ABSOLUTELY HAILS in comparison to PAVLIKS pre-title wins. And Guess what, Taylor was able to win.
And Pavliks stamina shouldnt be anywhere NEAR in question, because he's slugging it out with Edison Miranda in the 7th round of a war, still throwing 70+ a round. In the Zuniga fight as well.
Taylor tired badly late in his fight against Hopkins... from what? being tense? that shows a lot of petential for fading in a grueling fight like this will be
And whats MOST pathetic about Taylors RECENT last 5, is there is an argument that he lost 4 OF HIS LAST 5!!!! HOW REDICULOUS IS THAT!!!! and there's a STRONG argument that he lost 3 of his last 5
didn't see this post before i posted mine, sorry. pretty much what i said with more detail
Pavlik hasnt fougt against an elite fighter period
Pavlik's last 5 Opponents
Miranda - overrated power puncher with no technical skills
Zertuche - bum
Lenord Pierre - who??
Bronco Mckart- great fighter in his hay day, obviously old fighter
Zuniga - bum
Taylor's last 5 Opponents
Spinks - former undisputed welterweight champ, jun mid champ and a slick south paw
Ouma - tough as nails former soldier and champion
winky - defensive masterminded southpaw, champion, hof
hopkins - past his prime but still game undispusted middleweight champ, hof, boxing genius
i rest my case
for those questioning taylor's stamina
pavlik hasn't even gone past 9 rounds
shouldn't there be questions for his stamina in the late rounds??
All of these happened after (during, in hopkins case) he became the champion. If you rely soly on experiance and who they fought, then Taylor should have had no chance at beating Hopkins. Pavlik has a better resume at the time chalenging the champion, than Taylor did (when he fought hopkins).
well im bout to head out to the bar so im sorry if you dont get anymore good laughs for the night... i could drop you a few jokes on PM to tie you over...
sorry if i was too hard on you earlier, but i didnt say what he claims and im pissed off.... just know i didnt say that... i keep it real as i can, you'll see if you stay around long here enough
you'll also find out that he is a joke and the common thread in these type of srguments
You're cool man. I'm bout to go smoke me a fat ass blunt and play Halo 3. Take it easy.
This thread is pretty good. I'll give it a solid 10 for humor.
well im bout to head out to the bar so im sorry if you dont get anymore good laughs for the night... i could drop you a few jokes on PM to tie you over...
sorry if i was too hard on you earlier, but i didnt say what he claims and im pissed off.... just know i didnt say that... i keep it real as i can, you'll see if you stay around long here enough
you'll also find out that he is a joke and the common thread in these type of srguments
What posts have you noticed where I picked a fight? I don't remember saying you moron or you retard first. I say that after someone else has called me a dumb ass. I give my opinion about something, and the first response from a grade-A asshole is you're a dumb ass elite or something dumb like that.
I don't know if you start any of them, I'm just saying, there is an awful lot of anger coming from a lot of your posts, at least that I have noticed... I might be wrong though, I'm not 100% sure.
What posts have you noticed where I picked a fight? I don't remember saying you moron or you retard first. I say that after someone else has called me a dumb ass. I give my opinion about something, and the first response from a grade-A asshole is you're a dumb ass elite or something dumb like that.
how bout the post where u say the only reason id favor pavlik over miranda was cause he was white.... that was a good one... made you look really smart
You should be banned for sending that to my asshole, just because I picked Taylor to win and if he doesn't win you're going to flame me for picking taylor. This kid is a fucking loser, I hope that is his real address because I am really debating about killing this little shit. No joke
Never picked a fight with anyone on this website, unless if they call me a dumb ass first. Which alot of users have done. I don't know where these ppl grow up but where I live, you get killed for talking like that to people. I guess people feel so safe hiding behind the internet thinking its cool to hurt peoples feelings. I know that sounds emo, but I don't like to be called a dumb ass. It ticks me off and sets me into rage mode.
I'm with you on that Elite. I get heated too. I think I remember reading you're from the Ukraine, yea? Russians are some of the coldest MFO's out there. I don't mean that in a bad way. Just that the few I've met rarely smiled and seemed beyond shrewd.
I know that sounds emo, but I don't like to be called a dumb ass. It ticks me off and sets me into rage mode.
emo huh??? i knew you were a sissy, thats my address, my real one, so either take it off your sig or show up on my porch cause i dont need anymore fan mail
You should be banned for sending that to my asshole, just because I picked Taylor to win and if he doesn't win you're going to flame me for picking taylor. This kid is a fucking loser, I hope that is his real address because I am really debating about killing this little shit. No joke
You can send things to people's assholes on this site? I learn new things everyday.
Elite, I don't have a problem with you... but almost every single time I see a new post from you, I think, my god, that has to be the angriest person on this entire forum, because a lot of your posts are just ridiculously angry packed with insults towards whoever you are verbally brawling with.
People might flame you because they feel victimized by your pointed language in the first place, that you might not even realize is perceived as hostile. You might just want to try to make your posts a little less hostile, and see if this continues.
but face to face I know they wouldn't say shit to me. So, it does bother me when they start shit. Plus, I know I'm not the smartest guy but I'm one of the nicest and I just don't like when people pick fights with me like that when I'm not a picking a fight with them.
face to face youre right, i wouldnt say anything, id just drop you with one shot and go make myself some dinner
youre also right about not being very smart
dumbest thing youve done though is saying i called you the N word and not being able to back it up.... just admit youre a liar and trying to incite racial tension and ill let it go
I know I'm not the smartest guy but I'm one of the nicest and I just don't like when people pick fights with me like that when I'm not a picking a fight with them.
Are you serious Elite? I always kind of thought you were a dick. But that dancing Asian chick you had in your avatar made up for it.
Do we really have to through the steps to check? If it was said, forward the message to me.
please go throught the steps poppa ive got nothing to hide, he cant handle the fact that i called him a dubass for suggesting taylor fight left handed...
i call em like i see em, a dumb idea is a dumb idea, but i never have nor never will make a racist remark to anyone on this forum
I deleted all the spam as I already said in one of my earlier posts, so no I don't have it. I don't care though I just want him to leave me alone and the problems are solved. He attacked me earlier for my opinion on the taylor/pavlik fight and thats instigated it all. Just read through this topic. I will post where he started it.
back tracking pretty fast arent we buddy????
why dont u come clean and admit to everyone youre lying
Thats because you sent me it afterwards dumb ass, and I keep deleting the spam you're sending me so no I don't have it now. When someone sends me 50 messages in a row threatening to kill me, I tend to delete them all. But no I didn't make it up, why don't you leave racist ass bitch. We don't need people like you causing problems. I didn't threaten you first, you were sending threatening emails, and as I said I'm white not black.
Do we really have to through the steps to check? If it was said, forward the message to me.
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