Definately NO!!
Corrales ok but not top notch at the time
Castillo good fighter in prime gave Pretty a run for his money
Gatti...uh NO
Judah..can never finish what he starts
De La Hoya past his prime
Hatton..Well we all saw what happened to him on Saturday!
So I would say NO!!!!!! Never has fought top notch fighter
Not a impressive resume for the #1 P4P fighter..give me a break!
JMM will show him what a real fighter is all about, Mayweather picked the wrong tune up fight!
lol@this.
2 years later and the same bullshit is still being spewed on Boxing Scene.
I remember Tony628... he was 100% brain dead.
Wiley Hyena did what he does best in this thread... showed real ignorance.
Even though my language made me sound like I had a lack of formal education, it's clear to me that I was willing to do a lot more to prove my point back in 2007 than I am now.
Oh yeah, and finally, anyone who think I'm a Floyd hater can check this thread... clearly not, UNTIL he pulled this cowardly retirement, come back and fight lightweights shit. It's an embarrassment that the best in the sport refuses to take a tough fight. I'll take it back if he fights Cotto, Pacquioa or Mosley after lightweight Marquez.
Ok..so now we have Casa, Freitas, and Margarito. And of course Cotto's been around...who else? I'm sure we can think of a half dozen or more true contenders that Floyd has not fought. Oh yeah, don't forget Shane. Well, it really just goes on and on doesn't it?
I'd stop while your not way too far behind. You keep digging it deeper and deeper.
if i remember correctly chico was rated p4p by the ring when he faced pretty boy or was about to crack the top 10....also i think chico was favored to win........
Mute,
click the link. That is a RING magazine archive.
RING MAGAZINE
Whether you agree or not, Diego was highly-rated P4P. That is just a fact.
I a happy with the boxrec link, and I agree with the rating (maybe not 5, but whatever). I was answering to the dude who did not believe the link since you posted it.
BTW, boxrec has pbf p4p #2, so my question was ironic... he didnt get it
And then out come the excuses from the fan club. The question was asked, who else could Floyd have fought? Many fighters were named. I don't care about excuses.
Seems pretty relevant if you look at the thread title.
I went through The Ring's annual ratings and found out who was P4P ranked when Mayweather was at each division (or within one division up or down):
(Each year is based on the last year's end of year P4P rankings)
1998 - The Ring didn't put out a list for 1997.
1999 - Naseem Hamed was the only one that was even possible, and Mayweather begged to fight him. (#9)
2000 - He could have moved up to fight Stevie Johnston I guess. (#10)
2001 - Naseem Hamed again (#6) or Diego Corrales (#5) which he fought.
2002 - Kostya Tszyu at 140 (#6), but Floyd had just moved up to 135, so jumping again was probably ill advised.
2003 - (#6) Kostya Tszyu again, same old shit dogg, just a different day.
2004 - Floyd moves up to 140, and really the only fighter within any divison (1 up or 1 down from him, or in his division of course) is Kostya Tszyu (#7). He might have been trying to set a fight up, idk, but he was just starting at 140, trying to win eliminators, etc.
2005 - Tszyu (#5), I guess Tszyu was ready to set something up with Hatton, idk.
2006 - Mayweather moves up to welterweight. (#4) Hatton is down at 140, I've heard both parties didn't want this fight, but idk, someone else can argue that. Castillo (#9) is up at 140, but he has already beaten him twice, what's the point? Mayweather is trying to set up a fight with (#10) Zab Judah.
2007 - Basically just Hatton and Castillo (ranked #8 and #9 respectively at the end of 2006).
Say what you will about Mayweather ducking the elites, but it really does seem, now that I have looked into it, that the people that revisionists are saying Mayweather should have fought, got good after he left the division they were in.
It's true... he wasn't on The Ring's P4P list until he beat Judah.
And then out come the excuses from the fan club. The question was asked, who else could Floyd have fought? Many fighters were named. I don't care about excuses.
wake up people. Cotto was not even considered one of the top guys at 147 until after he beat Judah. faulting Floyd for not fighting him when the only wins Cotto had were Urkal and Quintana is stupid.
It's true... he wasn't on The Ring's P4P list until he beat Judah.
wake up people. Cotto was not even considered one of the top guys at 147 until after he beat Judah. faulting Floyd for not fighting him when the only wins Cotto had were Urkal and Quintana is stupid.
Popo and Casa.
And out of all, only Casa i would have been curious to see against Mayweather. He would have won landslides against the other 3.
Ok..so now we have Casa, Freitas, and Margarito. And of course Cotto's been around...who else? I'm sure we can think of a half dozen or more true contenders that Floyd has not fought. Oh yeah, don't forget Shane. Well, it really just goes on and on doesn't it?
Judah was better then hatton when he fought him, hatton is overrated because of his record with only 2 wins over anybody good... if he wasnt undefeated then none of this would be happening..
the same Judah that got dropped by Carlos?? hahahahahaha :bottle:
Mute,
click the link. That is a RING magazine archive.
RING MAGAZINE
Whether you agree or not, Diego was highly-rated P4P. That is just a fact.
The same logic allows people to say that Hatton has never fought a P4P great because we all think Tszyu sucks. Kind of shitty.
That was according to one list published by Dios, of all people. Who'd of thought that Dios would have been the one to quickly dig thru all his files and find a list to publish?
Actually it was Hydro who posted the list.
I simply noted the list so devotedly published by Dios. The fact that I don't agree with Corrales as being p4p is my opinion. He was still exciting to watch, no doubt. The point is that if Corrales is the only highly regarded p4p that Floyd ever fought, then a valid comment has been made with this thread regarding Floyd's competition. No need to be hostile.
Corrales at 130 was a stud... too strong for everyone, and too strong to be hurt by anyone. He hadn't even been on the canvas before he fought Floyd. He was KO'ing everyone he faced... idk, he was a beast at 130.
Popo and Casa.
And out of all, only Casa i would have been curious to see against Mayweather. He would have won landslides against the other 3.
He didnt avoid either Frietas never wanted the fight Casa didnt want the fight with Floyd till after he got beat by Frietas and Floyd then decided to Move up. He didn't Avoid either man Casa avoided him till he needed him.
edit: Frietas was also with Showtime at the time and that made it hard for Mayweather popo to fight. Floyd was at the Freitas vs Casa fight hoping Casa would win so they could fight but Casa got that L and Floyd Moved up cause Frietas Vs Mayweather wasnt going to happen.
So you are saying that corrales was not a p4p fighter at the time Floyd fought him plz he had 30 fights 27ko's against good comp that is nothing to sneeze at. Please stop now, Floyd has one of the better resumes in the game to date. No other boxer at Floyds time in boxing at this point has the resume he has period what other fighter does? nobody period. Hatton has been in the same time and his resume aint even close to Floyds. Floyd has taken on the best comp he could have during his time. The only people he didnt take on that he could have was Juan Lazcano and Antonio Margarito that is the only fights you can say he "avoided" other than that you cant say shit about his resume.
Popo and Casa.
And out of all, only Casa i would have been curious to see against Mayweather. He would have won landslides against the other 3.
That was according to one list published by Dios, of all people. Who'd of thought that Dios would have been the one to quickly dig thru all his files and find a list to publish?
That list has a link pointing to where it's taken: Boxrec.
Now... do you think that boxrec has a soft spot for Mayweather?
I simply noted the list so devotedly published by Dios. The fact that I don't agree with Corrales as being p4p is my opinion. He was still exciting to watch, no doubt. The point is that if Corrales is the only highly regarded p4p that Floyd ever fought, then a valid comment has been made with this thread regarding Floyd's competition. No need to be hostile.
So you are saying that corrales was not a p4p fighter at the time Floyd fought him plz he had 30 fights 27ko's against good comp that is nothing to sneeze at. Please stop now, Floyd has one of the better resumes in the game to date. No other boxer at Floyds time in boxing at this point has the resume he has period what other fighter does? nobody period. Hatton has been in the same time and his resume aint even close to Floyds. Floyd has taken on the best comp he could have during his time. The only people he didnt take on that he could have was Juan Lazcano and Antonio Margarito that is the only fights you can say he "avoided" other than that you cant say shit about his resume.
EDIT: I take back Margarito as being avoided because Floyd had no obligation to fight him and he took an overall better fight.