Castillo: "Hatton Has No Chance Of Beating Mayweather"

If anyone knows its Castillo. He's been in the ring with both fighters. Them's fightin words Ricky :boxing:

For your information, I have done my training today. 30 press ups. I'm in the best shape of my life. Neil Simpson should enjoy his day before I put him in adult nappies and leave him with an IQ similar to yours. And there goes another loss. Looks like Neil Simpson outpointed you Tony Booth. Now you have 100 losses. I Guess you could celebrate for that...lmao

im well aware of his history, collazo was golden gloves and a good amateur, ricky hatton was a bronze medalist at the junior world championships and had a brilliant amateur record, what amateur records got to do with it! I would say the castillo fight couldv been scored either way, and all those losses were pretty close but they were all fellow lightweights, not big light welters. I just dont ever see joel beating hatton, competitive yes, but never beating him How can someone who knows boxing make a comparison of such an accomplished fighter to Luis Collazo who was just a beltholder? Makes no sense to me. Collazo isn't nearly as skilled or tricky as Casa. Casa is an elite fighter, Luis has NEVER been in that class or has proved he belongs there. JLC who is arguably a better fighter at his prime (And in his prime when he fought Casa) than Hatton had his hands full with an older version of Casa. That should show you how Casa even at this stage of his career would deal with Hatton.

im well aware of his history, collazo was golden gloves and a good amateur, ricky hatton was a bronze medalist at the junior world championships and had a brilliant amateur record, what amateur records got to do with it! I would say the castillo fight couldv been scored either way, and all those losses were pretty close but they were all fellow lightweights, not big light welters. I just dont ever see joel beating hatton, competitive yes, but never beating him

Saxon, Floyd was an under-sized 135er/140er a few years ago. He is now an undersized WW who is still smaler than most 140ers. That being said, if hatton fought flloyd two years ago, he would have faced a smaller and less strong version of floyd. Do I have any "proof" that floyd is stronger today? No. Just like you don't have any "proof" that hatton is stronger than Floyd. But I think as boxing fans, it is reasonable to assume that since Floyd has put on about seven pounds of lean muscle, and since he has spent the past two years working out and fighting and sparring with very big men, Floyd would have gotten stronger than he was at 135/140. And if you say that you don't remember Floyd mixing it up at 140/147, it is because you missed this run: Sharmba - dropped a couple of times & stopped in six rounds Corley - punished and KD'd three times Gatti - stopped in six rounds. Vicious beating. Bruseles - stopped on a vicious bodyshot. While PBF handicapped the SuperBowl with Lampley. That is the amalgam of PBF's work at 140. i'm confused as to how you can attribute that to "not mixing it up". Can you please link me to that Oscar quote? I will find you that link, don't worry Dios. Those fights you have mentioned are not what I would call 'mixing it up'. Against most of these fighters and Gatti in particular he fought from the outside and simply used his speed, reach and timing to batter his opponents. He dis not stand and trade, which is what we were attributing 'mixing it up' to be. Back in his 130 and 135lb days he would make a genuine effort to push his opponent back and punish them. Given his size and strength differential at the higher weights this is no longer possible, which isn't a problem, as he has had to adapt to the environment he is in.

collazo is far from feather fisted, if you watch his fights he's just not a good finisher. Shane mosley said he hit harder than he expected in the press conf. after that fight but collazo broke his thumb on left hand in the 2nd or 3rd round and still went 12 with mosley. i would say casamayor is arguably a better fighter at his weight, which is lightweight (natural super feather), but as for being a challenge for hatton no way!

i agree with dios that mayweather is a visibly bigger and stronger fighter now, he has built himself into welter pretty well, altho he is still pretty small at the weight. But i would also say is that a good thing for mayweather, i feel that the floyd that fought gatti wouldve given hatton more problems cos i think he was noticably faster, i think the extra bulk has made him a bit slower. I also read that article of oscar slating floyd's power, he said that hatton didnt have to respect his power too much and that might give hatton an edge. To say hatton couldnt beat casamayor is laughable! He fought and beat a better, and bigger southpaw in collazo with poor preparation. Casamayor would never have the power to keep ricky honest. Don't ever post such nonsense again. Collazo wishes he was half the boxer of Casamayor. Casamayor was an accomplished amateur, gold medal winner, & two time world champ. In his prime he'd box circles around Hatton but now that he's older it would be closer. He also defeated Corrales twice & arguably beat JLC & Freitas. Do your research before posting things like that.

casamayor? Please! He lost to popo, castillo, and corrales. Im not saying it would be totally one sided but hatton would eventually walk through him and stop him mid-late rounds most likely to the body. When hatton did beat him u would say its cos he was over the hill and washed up cos he's 36.

i agree with dios that mayweather is a visibly bigger and stronger fighter now, he has built himself into welter pretty well, altho he is still pretty small at the weight. But i would also say is that a good thing for mayweather, i feel that the floyd that fought gatti wouldve given hatton more problems cos i think he was noticably faster, i think the extra bulk has made him a bit slower. I also read that article of oscar slating floyd's power, he said that hatton didnt have to respect his power too much and that might give hatton an edge. To say hatton couldnt beat casamayor is laughable! He fought and beat a better, and bigger southpaw in collazo with poor preparation. Casamayor would never have the power to keep ricky honest.

Nahh Castillo was ok but not nearly as good as Hatton all around. Hatton just has more to his arsenal, can fight different kinds of fights, has much more sopeed and better power. I don't even see this as being close. But fuck Hatton he'll probably get stopped on 12/8 I definitely disagree with you Kayjay. I think you might be underestimating JLC a bit. Like I said before the guy has an underated jab & could really fight on the inside. Hatton is more of a mauler & is very good at what he does. JLC isn't just gonna maul you, but he used to punish fighters on the inside that tried to grab him. I don't even think that Hatton could beat Casamayor.

i've seen both fights at least 5 times, in fact iv got castillo mayweather I on my computer, firstly the points i was making were completely irrelevant to ur point as i was just correcting the thread title which was misleading. Another thing u have to consider washed up or not hatton won every round and knocked castillo out in the 4th so he couldn have done anymore than that, guess what im trying to say is altho i do agree with you i think its very debatable whether a prime castillo was better equipped to beat mayweather than a prime hatton now.

i have all the castillo v hatton build up and fight on dvd, this quote was said before they fought, so im not sure if the person who started this thread is trying to be clever or it was just a genuine mistake. Secondly directly after the fight castillo was asked the same question and his reply was... "i think it will be a very interesting fight, as we say in mexico 'the cat against the mouse'" So i think his opinion changed after he actually got in the ring with hatton. I also believe the second quote is on this website under the video archives, in hatton castillo post fight presser if anyone wants to check that out The Castillo who fought Mayweather over a half decade ago and the Castillo who fought Hatton in June are totally different fighters. Watch the two fights and it's painfully obvious what time and incessant ring wars have done to Castillo. Against Mayweather he was active and relentless in his assault and by the time Hatton got to him he looked old and slow...shot beyond belief.

i have all the castillo v hatton build up and fight on dvd, this quote was said before they fought, so im not sure if the person who started this thread is trying to be clever or it was just a genuine mistake. Secondly directly after the fight castillo was asked the same question and his reply was... "i think it will be a very interesting fight, as we say in mexico 'the cat against the mouse'" So i think his opinion changed after he actually got in the ring with hatton. I also believe the second quote is on this website under the video archives, in hatton castillo post fight presser if anyone wants to check that out

makes absolutly no sense ...what a sore loser makes complete sense hatton fought an old washed up shot castillo we all know that floyd fought a prime castillo castillo has went up against both and knows firsthand how they fight floyd has the speed and overall skill over hatton along with the reach and he has a good chin hatton has an aggressive smothering style and does good body work but floyd is a defensive mastermind and a great counter puncher and should find a way to win against hatton it should an exciting fight

I agree with everything on Mosley. Mayweather however; has never been and never will be the kind of guy that takes on all comers. The bold statement can be said about a lot of fighters not just PBF.

Here's what happened: Last summer, Floyd was looking for the fight for his November HBO date. He tried to amke a fight with Shane. After the Vargas rematch, Merchant asked Shane if he would take the mayweather fight. Shane said "Uh, my tooth, um, er ...vacation". On national TV. Damn Dios, you were on a roll last night. But I expect you understand that the tooth comment was a way to end the interview to go get medical attention after the fight; that wasn't addressed to the question about Floyd Mayweather, although on here everyone acted like it was.

Yeah... Floyd turns 31 in Feb. And it's safe to say that he ain't taking P-Dub in '08. So, AT BEST, he takes Pun in '09 (when Floyd is 32/33). And, by then, Williams might be a friggin' middleweight...who knows? But this isn't new news to any of us. All the big money boxers did the same thing. SRL played deaf to Aaron Pryor, and DLH has never spoken the names of Vernon Forrest or Winky Wright. These guys know who the dangerous opponents are that will derail the money train. Let's be serious, Floyd would box that awkward phenom into a coma. Williams is a poor man's Mark Breland; my point here is, it's not like there's never been a 6'2" welterweight before. In fact in the 80's there were at least two who were better than Williams

theres only two ways mayweather can win 1 - cuts 2 - hope that hatton can`t land on him that often and run around the ring. i see this fight taking mayweather into places he has never been. he will have to fight at a pace he is not comfortable with and at a weight where his power is negated. If hatton comes to the fight in his best shape yet, i see him walking floyd down and eventually stopping him in the late rounds. Then i see every floyd fan in the world crying for a rematch.

On the contrary, I think that Hatton would have been better off two or three years ago when he had a distinct size/strength advantage on Floyd. PBF is going to have a wide speed advantage vs Hatton either way. 2005 or today. Ricky concedes that. But now, Hatton's strength advantage has dissipated....yet PBF retains the speed advantage. And for those who don't think that Floyd is still fast, please remember this: Oscar was sparring with Shane Mosley for weeks. As soon as the fight was over, Oscar said "wow, he's fast". Where is your proof that Hatton's strength advantage has dissapated? I dont seem to remember Floyd ever mixing it up at 140 or 147 like he could do at 130 or 135. Hatton will clearly be the stronger of the two fighters and the harder puncher. There was a quote from Oscar after the Mayweather fight where he said something to the effect of "I left my chin hanging all night cos everytime he hit me I didnt feel anything so I was quite happy to take some on the chin to land my own". Mayweather relies on his speed and natural boxing ability at these higher weights, not strength or power punching.

I will say this, if Floyd doesn't fight the winner of that fight I will make a thread every other day that he is ducking them. Floyd won't like it if you spam the boards, no way.