Is Miguel Cotto simply a bigger stronger better Ricky Hatton, except for his chin?

Hey guys Guys about a comment I read about Cotto taking 11 rounds to finish Judah off, let me tell you that I work with his corner, and the reason ( as Cotto himself told us ) he didn't go to demolish Judah earlier, was that he was scared of landing another low body attack and getting Dq'ed, he just pressured him the most he could until breaking him down. Which makes total sense IMO. And I also read that Cotto hasn't been down in a canvas, he has, in round 2 of Torres fight, in a flurry of punches he got hit and -pushed- down, but realistically speaking, he would have gone down anyway.

That's who I see Hatton and Cotto, but I have very limited experience with both. There are probably a lot of big differences.

A bigger, stronger, better Ricky Hatton with a worse chin could be any number of fighters. Wladmir Klitschko could fall under that category. Klitchko and Hatton?? The only resemblance is the hugging...

I think Cotto was weakening himself by making 140. His chin has seemed fine at 147. Ricky Hatton was severely hurt by "Iron" Luis Collazo. So his chin is likely no better than Mig's. id say the collazo argument is nothing to base hattons chin on , luis althought is not considered a big puncher at hes wieght is still a natural light-middlewieght fighting at 147. if you have a natural 154 fighter vs a natural 140 fighter no matter who they are the different in shots is gonna be harder than anyone can imagine. mallignagi would stun manny pac if he hit him as conistantly has collazo hit hatton. also kostya tszyu who was one if the biggest punchers in the game and had arguably the most feared straight right in the business didnt once stun hatton and he landed the big right on more than one occasion

IMO Cotto is bigger, taller, stronger, harder puncher, better body puncher, and the better technical fighter. Cotto's chin issue, I believe, was partly caused by him melting himself down to 140. At 147 he's faced 2 solid punchers, Quintana and Judah. We all know what happened with Quintana and with Judah he took some hard, flush shots which buckled him for a few seconds. I definitely think his chin has improved in his move up to WW. If Luis Collazo a fighter who isn't known for his punch could visibly hurt Hatton, a fighter who wasn't severely weight drained as I feel Cotto was in his last 5 fights or so at 140, then that leads me to conclude Hatton has the lesser chin at 147 but the better one at 140. Although in saying that I think it's a moot point considering should they ever meet it will obviously be at 147. I just don't see Hatton performing as well as Cotto did at 147 against Quintana, Urkal and Judah mainly because he's a natural 140 pounder. If I were Ricky's management, I would advise him vehemently to stay at 140 and only go up to 147 to face the guy he's facing now: Mayweather. A fight between Cotto and Hatton IMO would be a destruction of Hatton by the mid rounds. Hatton doesn't react well to body punches at his natural weight, imagine by the premiere body puncher at the weight class above him. I think for a good example of what'll happen if these 2 ever meet look at Foreman vs Frazier 1 and 2. They both had similar styles of coming forward but because Foreman was the bigger, stronger guy Frazier was tailor made for Big George...

if mayweather wins I wouldn't like to see cotto vs pbf although it would sell, but I think paul williams needs to get in the mix, i wanted to see hatton vs casamayor

Its more Cotto's tendency to leave himself open to a potentially devastating punch than him having a weaker chin imo. Hatton leaves himself open too, but he is constantly moving.

I think Cotto was weakening himself by making 140. His chin has seemed fine at 147. Ricky Hatton was severely hurt by "Iron" Luis Collazo. So his chin is likely no better than Mig's. Hatton took Zoo's right a good number of times while getting in, that speaks a lot. Let's see... Cotto was put on his ass by Torres, hurt by Judah and so far we are ok, because those are good punchers. But Cotto was hurt by Corley way worse than Hatton was ever hurt by Collazo or anyone. Corley was way smaller than he was (essentially a lightwight, giving away more than 15 pounds by fight night), and was not more of a puncher than Collazo. At least, Collazo held a tangible size advantage over Hatton.

To me, Cotto is the exact same thing as Ricky Hatton except better. The only area where I see him not being as good as Hatton is the chin issue. And that's a pretty big issue......a good chin is an incredibly important attribute. Another reason why I pick Hatton over Cotto, in an excellent fight.

To me, Cotto is the exact same thing as Ricky Hatton except better. The only area where I see him not being as good as Hatton is the chin issue.

Thanks for correcting me. I look at it like this though. A guy with a bad chin is someone thats known to get put down a lot or knocked out. Cotto doesnt fit either of those descriptions. To say Cotto has a bad chin you could easily say pavlik has one too, even though some here consider him to have a really good one. Zertuche stunned pavlik a few times in their fight. Cotto does not have a terrible chin, but it definitely looks worse than Hatton's.

first of all cotto is puerto rican and second i think cotto has pretty much advantage on everything except attacking the opponent...he waits for the later rounds to finish his opponents.

Thanks for correcting me. I look at it like this though. A guy with a bad chin is someone thats known to get put down a lot or knocked out. Cotto doesnt fit either of those descriptions. To say Cotto has a bad chin you could easily say pavlik has one too, even though some here consider him to have a really good one. Zertuche stunned pavlik a few times in their fight.

Cotto has a worse chin than Hatton? If I recall correctly Cotto has never been down? You cant say the same for Hatton. No matter if Cotto has been slightly rocked a couple of times, hes always been able to stay on his feet and win. Correct me please if I'm wrong, I just know I've never seen Cotto on the canvas, nor have I ever heard of him being on the canvas. Down in round 2 of the Torres. And he was visibly hurt a number of times.

Cotto has a worse chin than Hatton? If I recall correctly Cotto has never been down? You cant say the same for Hatton. No matter if Cotto has been slightly rocked a couple of times, hes always been able to stay on his feet and win. Correct me please if I'm wrong, I just know I've never seen Cotto on the canvas, nor have I ever heard of him being on the canvas.

all jokes aside. im not a hatton hater at all but i think cotto would demolish hatton. No one can compare cotto to koysta Tyzu when it comes to styles because thier styles are totaly different. Koysta gives you room to box and cotto would stock hatton and make him fight his fight. besides, cotto would hit hatton waaaaaaaaaay more than Tyzu did. hatton does not like getting hit to the body and the body is where cotto lives. cotto has actually faced bigger and faster boxers than hatton so hatton does not have anything cotto has never seen before. hatton had to back off Juan Urango because he was hurt to the body. that is almost the worst match-up for hatton out there. hatton loves to fight in close quarters to much so i see him getting his body hammered. i'll pick cotto by tko in round 9 with hatton cut and battered with his corner throwing in the towel. hatton will have his moments in the fight, but he will get took apart. :boxing: I take your point about Hatton's susceptibility to body shots but I am not sure the fight would be as straight forward as suggest.

all jokes aside. im not a hatton hater at all but i think cotto would demolish hatton. No one can compare cotto to koysta Tyzu when it comes to styles because thier styles are totaly different. Koysta gives you room to box and cotto would stock hatton and make him fight his fight. besides, cotto would hit hatton waaaaaaaaaay more than Tyzu did. hatton does not like getting hit to the body and the body is where cotto lives. cotto has actually faced bigger and faster boxers than hatton so hatton does not have anything cotto has never seen before. hatton had to back off Juan Urango because he was hurt to the body. that is almost the worst match-up for hatton out there. hatton loves to fight in close quarters to much so i see him getting his body hammered. i'll pick cotto by tko in round 9 with hatton cut and battered with his corner throwing in the towel. hatton will have his moments in the fight, but he will get took apart. :boxing:

I would dispute whether Cotto has better footwork than Hatton. Unless you count Cotto's ability to cut off the ring then yes Hatton definitely has better footwork. He's a lot quicker on his feet, and can pivot away to get better angles on his opponent.

Hatton is more awkward faster more active has a better chin Cotto is (more conventional, he is technically solid, but only on offense.) bigger most likely stronger probably carries a bigger punch. One on One Cotto might be the right pick, against Mayweather Hatton will put up 100x the fight that Cotto could.

Miguel Cotto showed a bit of a weak chin at 140. Since moving up, he has fought Quintana, Urkal and Judah and his chin has seemed fine. I also doubt that Luis Collazo would hurt Cotto. The single advantage that Hatton has over Cotto is activity rate. Cotto is better than Hatton in every other regard. Cotto at 147 is a legitimate threat to PBF. His strength and size would pose problems. Hatton, however, is badly overmatched vs. Mayweather I would dispute whether Cotto has better footwork than Hatton.