Pavlik vs Wright

I mean yeah pavlik has the ability to probably break his defense a couple times. But saying he would crush him is going too far. I mean you make it sound like winky is a bum or something. His lost against hop was like his first lost in almost 10 years. Come on man you can't be serious. Yeah a person can have all the power in the world but intelligence and experience can win against that. think about lacy and calzaghe. everybody was giving lacy the edge cause of his power or what not. look what happened. the man got schooled for 12 rounds. I think pavlik will lose by a split decision. Yes, and I never held Miranda in very high regard. I think alot of people did because he beet Alan Green who beat Jaidon Codrinton.

One-dimensiona, I hate that argument. Winky Wright is as one-dimensional as it gets. He doens;t use no footwork or head movement as a defense. He throws basic one-twos. Hell, Tito has been described as one dimensional. Pacman has been described as one-dimensional. So what if you're one dimensional, you can;t have success? Btw Winky right is more one-dimensional than Kelly not that it matters much just for one-dimensional agrument sake. winky is not one dimensional. he has good defense, good offence, he can be the agressor, he has good combinations, and can out box almost anyone and he is not predictible. that means he is elusive. one dimensional is miranda. he has a lazy left jab, and he mainly throws the lazy left jab followed by the big right hand over and over again. thats one dimensional and predictible. of course pavlic would look good against someone like miranda who will slug with him and make him look good. pavlic had trouble with Jose luis Zertuchi because he is a boxer who moves. the only way Zertuchi would get beat was when he would stop and slug with pavlic. he was giving pavlic all types of trouble and even stunned him a few times. thats how i know pavlic can not keep up with taylor or winky because they are smart fighters who will not stand there and fight pavlics fight. I still think winky can beat pavlic. he looked bad against hopkins because he came up in weight and ran out of gas but when he goes back to MW, he should be his old self again.:boxing:

winky would out point him. pavlic has done nothing to make me believe that he can beat winky. he beats a one dimensional miranda and all of a sudden people think he can beat winky? yeah ok. hes too slow for winky. mainly everyone winky fought tries to punch through his gloves and it dont work. he has one of the best defence in boxing. i dont even think pavlic is going to make it past Jermain. I dont see pavlic beating someone as elusive and athletic as jermain. Pavlic will probably rule the MW division when Jermain goes up to 168. :boxing:

Wright would be waiting for Pavlik to stop punching so he could return fire and it wouldnt stop. Pavlik would force him to trade. He didnt stop punching when Miranda tried to counter and he wouldnt stop if Winky tried to either. Personally I think Pavlik's has the perfect style to beat Wright. I take nothing away from Wright, he's an amazing fighter! I just think he was best at Jr. Middleweight, plus he's getting a little older now.

Pavliks straight foward style plays right into Wrights hands ending in a UD for Winky. Wrights Defence makes it difficult to land clean body shots as well, usualy hiting arms and elbows.

Thats the same thing people said about trinidad and look what happened. Trinidad was not as good as Pavlik as a middleweight, not as powerful and without the textbook technique and the large frame. Pavlik would win a comfortable UD if not a late TKO.

pavlik is soooooo big , when winky covers up i see pavlik going to the body like no other Wright has such long arms that he is able to block most body shots with his elbows when he is covering up his face.

People who say Wright would beat Kelly Pavlik. Your all so confident that Wright would beat him, how the hell would he do that, tell me please? His jab from a flatfooted stance is going to nullify everything Kelly Pavlik has in arsenal and win him every round? Yes... that's pretty much a Winky Wright fight for you.

miranda vs wright would be good

good question. i would have to say that winky would win a decision against pavlik. winky is too smart and too experienced. i tihnk winky would get hurt in the fight but would pull out the decision... Good post. It seems that Winky is invulnerable to being knocked out. But, Pavlik is very efficient in taking out a man that's hurt. I think the problem is that Pavlik has yet to be established as brand name. If Pavlik knocks out Taylor, then all that will change.

I wouldn't even factor the size advantage. Because Wink showed his heart by going up to lightheavy to bang with Hopkins who is stronger than Pavlik. So I think we could eliminate that as a factor. And how is Pavliks style terrible for Wright. Pavlik likes to throw big shots. Winky defensive shell invites a fighter with activity And he is the best at smothering your shots without taking much punishment. He would definitely jab beuase Pavlik won't be able to off set it like Hopkins did by fighting inside. The only way to stop it is by tying Pavlik doesn't fight like Hopkins.

That's me your referring to and Pavlik would cut through Winky Wright alot easier than you expect, probably would be an easier fight than Taylor. I dont care how well Wright covers up with the phalanx defense, Kelly Pavlik would overwhelm the hell out of him. Wright is not going to keep Kelly Pavlik at bay with that jab in any concievable way. If he moved better and then jabbed he'd have a better chance but as he stands there flatfooted no f**king way. He'd get annihlated, whether he stays in a shell and gets the hell beat out of him or opens up and tries to fight back he has no chance. He'd get hurt. I mean yeah pavlik has the ability to probably break his defense a couple times. But saying he would crush him is going too far. I mean you make it sound like winky is a bum or something. His lost against hop was like his first lost in almost 10 years. Come on man you can't be serious. Yeah a person can have all the power in the world but intelligence and experience can win against that. think about lacy and calzaghe. everybody was giving lacy the edge cause of his power or what not. look what happened. the man got schooled for 12 rounds. I think pavlik will lose by a split decision.

People who say Wright would beat Kelly Pavlik. Your all so confident that Wright would beat him, how the hell would he do that, tell me please? His jab from a flatfooted stance is going to nullify everything Kelly Pavlik has in arsenal and win him every round? Can I ask you a question. Were you a pavlik fan before or after he beat miranda. Its funny because no one on this forum even talked about pavlik prior to his fight with miranda. Now since he beat miranda which by the way was not 100 percent physically he is the next big thing. I honestly think pavlik is getting hyped too much. Well lets see how he does against taylor. If he beats him he'll get alot of respect from me. If not he would be considered nothing but hype.

That is a TERRIBLE style matchup for Winky Wright. If the Person said Pavlik is a better fighter then Wright, then that guys an idiot (at least of right now, maybe Pavlik becomes a better fighter then wright later on, who knows). Wrights the more talented fighter. Pavliks style is terrible for Wright.

People who say Wright would beat Kelly Pavlik. Your all so confident that Wright would beat him, how the hell would he do that, tell me please? His jab from a flatfooted stance is going to nullify everything Kelly Pavlik has in arsenal and win him every round?

I was on another thread and some dude said pavlik would beat winky wright. I honestly think the dude is on crack. Can yall give me some of your opinions on how pavlik would do against winky wright. That's me your referring to and Pavlik would cut through Winky Wright alot easier than you expect, probably would be an easier fight than Taylor. I dont care how well Wright covers up with the phalanx defense, Kelly Pavlik would overwhelm the hell out of him. Wright is not going to keep Kelly Pavlik at bay with that jab in any concievable way. If he moved better and then jabbed he'd have a better chance but as he stands there flatfooted no f**king way. He'd get annihlated, whether he stays in a shell and gets the hell beat out of him or opens up and tries to fight back he has no chance. He'd get hurt.

pavlik is soooooo big , when winky covers up i see pavlik going to the body like no other

Wright by UD...:boxing:

Wright by UD, he would neutralize Pavliks power and then control him with the jab, probably winning 8 or 9 rounds.

Winky owns Pavlik, simple as that, Pavlik is vulnerable both in short and long range, the only range he contorls is the middle, and thats more because his short punches are so plodding , they work better at midrange..... Wibky would come forward, get inside of Pavliks jab to land his own, then Pavlik would try to close in and punch winky, winky parries and lands counter uppercuts and hooks inside..... Winky UD 118-110