The Great Black Hope

This is an old thread....I made that list back in September...These are my new heavyweight rankings: 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Ruslan Chagaev 3. Sam Peter 4. Nicolai Valuev 5. Alexander Povetkin 6. Sultan Ibragimov 7. Tony Thompson 8. John Ruiz 9. Vladimir Virchis 10. Alexander Dimitrenko Mskaev will probably retire, he drops out of the top 10..Ruiz has dominant, albeit boring UD over McCline and he is now back in the mix....Ruiz will not go away, his style is shit, but he keeps beating credible opponents.sounds pretty good to me. almost exactly how I would have it, in fact...although I really am reluctant to put Virchis in there, just because of that real bad loss to Sprott, but theres not really much to choose from. not exactly the deepest division of all time...

No black people aren't and EVERYONE is just hoping for a Heavyweight to take the division and put it under it's wing, whether the person be black white brown or yellow, well as long as they are American. basically..

Wow...... you cant even Answer the Question...:lol1: You know WLAD IS not a better boxer Than James Toney it is now apparent because your numberous fail attempt to answer a simple question YES or No.. I was Hoping you Would say yes.... So your TRUE Nutt huggin will be Expose... But you are Smarter than That... Arent You...? Your just Some Silly Ass Euro who Dont know shit about boxing to even Suggest WLAD IS A BETTER Boxer Than JAMES TONEY.. JAMES TONEY IS THE BEST BOXER IN THE HW DIVISION he is not the best in the Division Be he sure is the Boxer in the Division WLAD Is just one of the biggest fighters in the division who has Size over all his fighters... He barely Learn How to throw a Jab Properly... LOL James Toney is going to Hall of Fame all ready Wlad nobody knows.... Wlad is a better all around boxer than Toney...Toney was dominated and outboxed by the slow,crude slugger Sam Peter, lost to Rahman and barely beat tomato can Danny Batchelder. Wlad is better than Toney...Now for the last time, Get outta here and fuck off.....go find a new black hope...you're wasting your time defending that fat racist fuck Toney.

THEY"RE NOT THE SAME SIZE...So shut the fuck up and get out of your fantasy world....Wlad >>>>>>> Toney....Now fuck off. Wow...... you cant even Answer the Question...:lol1: You know WLAD IS not a better boxer Than James Toney it is now apparent because your numberous fail attempt to answer a simple question YES or No.. I was Hoping you Would say yes.... So your TRUE Nutt huggin will be Expose... But you are Smarter than That... Arent You...? Your just Some Silly Ass Euro who Dont know shit about boxing to even Suggest WLAD IS A BETTER Boxer Than JAMES TONEY.. JAMES TONEY IS THE BEST BOXER IN THE HW DIVISION he is not the best in the Division Be he sure is the Boxer in the Division WLAD Is just one of the biggest fighters in the division who has Size over all his fighters... He barely Learn How to throw a Jab Properly... LOL James Toney is going to Hall of Fame all ready Wlad nobody knows....

thats a pretty fair list, and I know you made this list before the Peter fight, so Im not going to be an idiot and say Oleg is rated way too high or anything... but Virchis? he belongs nowhere on a top ten list. you must have missed how bad he got outboxed by Michael Sprott, of all people...geez...and has no real wins since then other than Vidoz, who kind of is not good. Dimitrenko...Ill give you that. he hasnt beaten anyone of real note yet, and had trouble in his last fight, but I think he has good ability. Liakhovich doesnt deserve to be in the top ten either, the man threw less than 20 punches a round against Valuev, thats just...disgusting. and he also got knocked out by Briggs, even if he was winning a little. but he not so good, he might have been if he could stay in shape, but uh...no. and it may sound ridiculous but......Ruiz deserves to be in there. disgusting, but true. he gave your #2, Chagaev, a tough time and many people thought he deserved a win over Valuev, including me, although it was not a good fight so please dont ask me to watch it again...not to mention he just got a win over McCline, if that means anything. This is an old thread....I made that list back in September...These are my new heavyweight rankings: 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Ruslan Chagaev 3. Sam Peter 4. Nicolai Valuev 5. Alexander Povetkin 6. Sultan Ibragimov 7. Tony Thompson 8. John Ruiz 9. Vladimir Virchis 10. Alexander Dimitrenko Mskaev will probably retire, he drops out of the top 10..Ruiz has dominant, albeit boring UD over McCline and he is now back in the mix....Ruiz will not go away, his style is shit, but he keeps beating credible opponents.

So you Cant Answer the Question...?? if Wlad and James Toney was the Same Size and Height WLAD would beat Toney on over all Boxing Ability...?? Just a yes or no Answer... will do THEY'RE NOT THE SAME SIZE...So shut the fuck up and get out of your fantasy world....Wlad >>>>>>> Toney....Now fuck off.

Here are the Top 10 Heavyweights 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Ruslan Chagaev 3. Oleg Maskaev 4. Sultan Ibragimov 5. Sam Peter 6. Nikolay Valuev 7. Vladimir Virchis 8. Alexander Dimitrenko 9. Tony Thompson 10. Alexander Povetkin GET USED TO IT:D thats a pretty fair list, and I know you made this list before the Peter fight, so Im not going to be an idiot and say Oleg is rated way too high or anything... but Virchis? he belongs nowhere on a top ten list. you must have missed how bad he got outboxed by Michael Sprott, of all people...geez...and has no real wins since then other than Vidoz, who kind of is not good. Dimitrenko...Ill give you that. he hasnt beaten anyone of real note yet, and had trouble in his last fight, but I think he has good ability. Liakhovich doesnt deserve to be in the top ten either, the man threw less than 20 punches a round against Valuev, thats just...disgusting. and he also got knocked out by Briggs, even if he was winning a little. but he not so good, he might have been if he could stay in shape, but uh...no. and it may sound ridiculous but......Ruiz deserves to be in there. disgusting, but true. he gave your #2, Chagaev, a tough time and many people thought he deserved a win over Valuev, including me, although it was not a good fight so please dont ask me to watch it again...not to mention he just got a win over McCline, if that means anything.

You're one dumb fucker and this post is retarded....Wlad is better than Toney, get over it....Go make another gay Floyd nuthugging thread or masturbate to some pictures of Floyd and 50 Cent...Get the fuck outta my thread, your opinions and posts are hateful, ignorant and pure garbage.:nonono: So you Cant Answer the Question...?? if Wlad and James Toney was the Same Size and Height WLAD would beat Toney on over all Boxing Ability...?? Just a yes or no Answer... will do

So if Wlad and James Toney was the Same Size and Height WLAD would beat Toney on over all Boxing Ability...?? You're one dumb fucker and this post is retarded....Wlad is better than Toney, get over it....Go make another gay Floyd nuthugging thread or masturbate to some pictures of Floyd and 50 Cent...Get the fuck outta my thread, your opinions and posts are hateful, ignorant and pure garbage.:nonono:

YES...Wlad is a better boxer than Toney...he rarely ever loses a round and he dominates everyone he faces. So if Wlad and James Toney was the Same Size and Height WLAD would beat Toney on over all Boxing Ability...??

I said the BEST "BOXER" in the Division is James Toney.. I didnt say he was number #1 fighter in the division... And James TONEY is the best BOXER in that Division...

Answer the Question..!!! Is Wlad A better All Around Boxer Than JAMES TONEY..?? :no: YES...Wlad is a better boxer than Toney...he rarely ever loses a round and he dominates everyone he faces. Toney was completely outboxed by Sam Peter...Nuff Said.:nonono:

Exactly... I judge Fighters on All Around Boxing Ability... If Wlad Wasnt So big would he even be a champion...? if everybody was the Same Size Would Wlad win on pure boxing aBility..(HELL NAW) all Wlad is a Tall Person who slaps People Hands Down... Dude is trash for real and The Whole HW divisiom is Trash.. The Best Boxer in the Division is JAMES TONY and he should just come down to the CW division and Take Over in my Opinion because he is not a HW lmao. james toney who was whooped by rahman and peter. great call man. as far as wlad being big,,,,having that size is as much a handicap as it is an advantage. having to move all that weight around etc. its tough on the stamina. most heavyweights that size are slow and sloppy. plus,,,was lewis not big himself. 6'5 240 lbs :duh:

Wlad>Toney Wlad would KO that fat racist fuck Toney and you know it....The truth hurts, dosen't it?.....BITCH. Answer the Question..!!! Is Wlad A better All Around Boxer Than JAMES TONEY..?? :no:

So Are you Trying to Suggest That WLAD is a Better all Around Boxer than JAMES TONEY..??? You cant be serious...?? Answer that Question...?? Wlad>Toney Wlad would KO that fat racist fuck Toney and you know it....The truth hurts, dosen't it?.....BITCH.

How many Wlad fights have you seen?? He has 44 KO's in 50 wins b...IBF/WBO/IBO Unified 2 time heavyweight champion of the world...Olympic Gold Medalist...One of the hardest punching heavyweights of all time...He is blessed with with tons of talent and skill. You think James Toney is the best in the division.:nonono: Get the fuck outta here you idiot...go back to sucking Floyd's balls, he is waiting for you. So Are you Trying to Suggest That WLAD is a Better all Around Boxer than JAMES TONEY..??? You cant be serious...?? Answer that Question...??

Exactly... I judge Fighters on All Around Boxing Ability... If Wlad Wasnt So big would he even be a champion...? if everybody was the Same Size Would Wlad win on pure boxing aBility..(HELL NAW) all Wlad is a Tall Person who slaps People Hands Down... Dude is trash for real and The Whole HW divisiom is Trash.. The Best Boxer in the Division is JAMES TONY and he should just come down to the CW division and Take Over in my Opinion because he is not a HW How many Wlad fights have you seen?? He has 44 KO's in 50 wins b...IBF/WBO/IBO Unified 2 time heavyweight champion of the world...Olympic Gold Medalist...One of the hardest punching heavyweights of all time...He is blessed with with tons of talent and skill. You think James Toney is the best in the division.:nonono: Get the fuck outta here you idiot...go back to sucking Floyd's balls, he is waiting for you.

yea,,we all know wlad is a bum. how dare here lose a whopping 3 times in 53 fights. how horrible Exactly... I judge Fighters on All Around Boxing Ability... If Wlad Wasnt So big would he even be a champion...? if everybody was the Same Size Would Wlad win on pure boxing aBility..(HELL NAW) all Wlad is a Tall Person who slaps People Hands Down... Dude is trash for real and The Whole HW divisiom is Trash.. The Best Boxer in the Division is JAMES TONY and he should just come down to the CW division and Take Over in my Opinion because he is not a HW

Is this dude bragging about the HW Division.... Where the So called best Boxer there Has a Glass Jaw and SLap Boxes WLAD will never be consider greaT NEVER... Not even TOP 100 FACE IT.. yea,,we all know wlad is a bum. how dare here lose a whopping 3 times in 53 fights. how horrible

Is this dude bragging about the HW Division.... Where the So called best Boxer there Has a Glass Jaw and SLap Boxes WLAD will never be consider greaT NEVER... Not even TOP 100 FACE IT.. hes KKK he'll juggle the balls of any white fighter