Best Post-Lewis Heavyweight Champ/Titleholder

Vitali.. He defended against the better competition, in my personal opinion. Wlad has beaten Ray Austin (pathetic) and then two guys that he already fought. One that he beat in the first fight and the other against a guy who SHOULD have beat, but just fought the wrong kind of fight against. I like Wlad and think he COULD (has as good a shot as anyone in the division today) of cleaning up the division. I'm just saying, other than Calvin Brock, and Sam Peter (who someone could make the argument, that before Sam had even reached his prime, gave Wlad a pretty good ass kicking) his brother just edges him out, to me. Vitali defended the belt one time and that was aginst Danny Williams...Yeah great competition :rolleyes: His WBO reign was against Ed Malon, Herbie Hide and Obed Sullivan Wlad has faced Lamon Brewster 1-1 with Chris Byrd, Calvin Brock, Jameel McCline, Frans Botha and Monte Barrett BUT THAT DANNY WILLIAMS SURE TAKES A HELL OF A BEATING?

WLAD hands down, but it would've been Vitali if not for the injuries

Most criticize his level of opponents, but since his loss in 2004, Wlad fought 7 times. Those 7 times consisted of: 1 After his loss to Brewster, he faced another dangerous 6'4 puncher (22 wins, 19 KOs) Williamson 3 undefeated opponents (Castillo, Peter, Brock) 1 Fight for the championship (Byrd) 1 Mandatory defense (Austin) 1 Redemption rematch (Brewster) A total record of his post Brewster loss opposition is 187-10-6 Ray Austin - being the mandatory, had the worst record of all 24-3-4

Wladimir Klitschko. He worked on his skills and improved as a fighter with Emanuel Steward in the corner. Wlad makes his mandotory and defended his title by KO (3times) since he wone the title in 2006.

I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight. HAHAHA... Quitali Quitschko defended his WBC and Ring title once, against Danny Williams. Then he cancelled his Rahman fight four times and retired. Wlad has already defended his IBF belt three times, against undefeated Brock (higher regarded than Williams), crap mandatory Austin, and getting his revenge against Brewster.

I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight.QUOTE] Yea well Wlad has been knocking everybody out since his last loss to Brewster other then Samuel Peter where he showed he can come back after being trouble so I say he is doing all right in both categories

I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight. that made no sense at all, why dont you just say: im still high on vitali cus he was PWNING Big Len for 4 rounds in a 6 round fight in which he got stopped....

What are you talking about. Who did Vitali beat in his title reign? The fat out of shape Kirk Johnson who already lost to the great John Ruiz. Danny williams who knocked out a fizzled out mike tyson?? Wlad fought the better competition. I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight.

Wlad obviously.Seems like ppl are still tickling a inactive,injured Vitali's nuts.

Vitali.. He defended against the better competition, in my personal opinion. Wlad has beaten Ray Austin (pathetic) and then two guys that he already fought. One that he beat in the first fight and the other against a guy who SHOULD have beat, but just fought the wrong kind of fight against. I like Wlad and think he COULD (has as good a shot as anyone in the division today) of cleaning up the division. I'm just saying, other than Calvin Brock, and Sam Peter (who someone could make the argument, that before Sam had even reached his prime, gave Wlad a pretty good ass kicking) his brother just edges him out, to me. What are you talking about. Who did Vitali beat in his title reign? The fat out of shape Kirk Johnson who already lost to the great John Ruiz. Danny williams who knocked out a fizzled out mike tyson?? Wlad fought the better competition.

Wlad obviously......

Vitali.. He defended against the better competition, in my personal opinion. Wlad has beaten Ray Austin (pathetic) and then two guys that he already fought. One that he beat in the first fight and the other against a guy who SHOULD have beat, but just fought the wrong kind of fight against. I like Wlad and think he COULD (has as good a shot as anyone in the division today) of cleaning up the division. I'm just saying, other than Calvin Brock, and Sam Peter (who someone could make the argument, that before Sam had even reached his prime, gave Wlad a pretty good ass kicking) his brother just edges him out, to me.

Vitali. Closely followed by Wlad. I'd say Wlad because Vitali has spent most of this time injured or inactive while Wlad has regained a belt and defended it a couple of times. Although when Vitali fought I never got nervous cuz I knew if the shit hit the fan he could fight through it. But when I watch Wlad fight I almost have a damn heart attack especially during the Peter fight :D

Who is the best since Lummox? I think Wlad. Vitali. Closely followed by Wlad.