American Heavyweights are PATHETIC

Holyfield in Perspective: Umm, wow... Anyone else agree with this or was Holyfield actually great?The word "great" is attributed to an elite fraternity of fighters in each division. To be considered great, a fighter must consistently rank among the top ten champions of his main weight class. Evander was (is?) a formidable gladiator, the real deal, if you will, but he lacks that intangible element of which legends are made.

He beat Tyson twice, he beat Bowe, he beat Holmes, he beat Douglas... sounds like a few damn good wins over legends.Agreed, he has beat a few greats, but he also lost to Moorer, Lewis, Ruiz, Byrd, Toney, and Donald. I personally think he is a great, but I can understand if someone would say he isn't.

Holy's resume was great, but he lost to a lot of fighters, which makes him good. He beat Tyson twice, he beat Bowe, he beat Holmes, he beat Douglas... sounds like a few damn good wins over legends.

Umm, wow... Anyone else agree with this or was Holyfield actually great?Holy's resume was great, but he lost to a lot of fighters, which makes him good.

It's hard to believe Mike Tyson is the last great American Heavyweight... (Evander was good) Umm, wow... Anyone else agree with this or was Holyfield actually great?

Naw man I put a bunch of Chagaev fights up in the lounge, I judge him by them all. C'mon kids, Thompson is a 35 yr. old prospect with a win over Luan Krasniqi. Don't get too excited. People get overeager at American heavies these days. Just accept that there are none, but one day most likely there will be I'm talking about fights against top 10 competition. I've seen many of his fights but it's hard to judge him unless he fights a few of top 10 fighters. It's not just the ability, it's mental preparedness as well. Like I said, look at Lyakhovich. To go from the FOTY in HW to the worst fight of the year in HW in 2 fights...

Thompson is like Glen Johnson at heavyweight. hes old but still very well conditioned, he cane pace himself in any case, and even fights slightly like Glen. not saying hes amazing but hes up there in todays heavies, at least top ten. He'll get some more credit when he becomes the WBO champion by beating up Imbragimov. Man that might be ok as a prediction, but at this point he's not done anything to warrant any higher than #10. And The Ring seems to badly want a new American on that list, even though Povetkin, Dimitrenko, and Virchis are probably all more deserving

Naw man I put a bunch of Chagaev fights up in the lounge, I judge him by them all. C'mon kids, Thompson is a 35 yr. old prospect with a win over Luan Krasniqi. Don't get too excited. People get overeager at American heavies these days. Just accept that there are none, but one day most likely there will be Thompson is like Glen Johnson at heavyweight. hes old but still very well conditioned, he cane pace himself in any case, and even fights slightly like Glen. not saying hes amazing but hes up there in todays heavies, at least top ten. He'll get some more credit when he becomes the WBO champion by beating up Imbragimov. ________ GYRO

It's hard to believe Mike Tyson is the last great American Heavyweight... (Evander was good) Holyfields legacy far exceeds Tyson's. No question.

It's hard to believe Mike Tyson is the last great American Heavyweight... (Evander was good)

I would say that Brock would chave a good chance to beat any of the current champs, besides Wlad.

The jury is still out on Chagaev, since we are judging him on one fight and we all know how that went with Lyakhovich. Peter is still a mistery. Is he good enough to make Toney look bad or has Toney become bad enough to make him look good? His next fight will show. McCline and Etienne on Brock's resume look better than 50% of Thompson's resume combined. Look, I'm not saying that Brock is Ali reborn, I'm just saying that he is the best of the worst today. Naw man I put a bunch of Chagaev fights up in the lounge, I judge him by them all. C'mon kids, Thompson is a 35 yr. old prospect with a win over Luan Krasniqi. Don't get too excited. People get overeager at American heavies these days. Just accept that there are none, but one day most likely there will be

I still say Brock wins the IBF tourney and goes on to fight Wlad. Not to say that Wlad won't knock him the fuck out again. Sorry, I am drunk as fuck tonight. Povetkin will stop Brock

sadly, the only ones with real talent are Sam Peter Klitschko and Chagaev. He more or less beats all the rest. Krasniqi was beating Brewster badly before he got knocked out from the reports, and how was he never the same when he had a string of victories and was coming off of a win over a decent fighter in Brian Minto when he fought Thompson? Besides, who else has Brock beaten that makes him better than Thompson? nooo one...oh wait, McCline, oh wait, Zuri Lawrence beat him, wow geez how embarressing. The jury is still out on Chagaev, since we are judging him on one fight and we all know how that went with Lyakhovich. Peter is still a mistery. Is he good enough to make Toney look bad or has Toney become bad enough to make him look good? His next fight will show. McCline and Etienne on Brock's resume look better than 50% of Thompson's resume combined. Look, I'm not saying that Brock is Ali reborn, I'm just saying that he is the best of the worst today.

sadly, the only ones with real talent are Sam Peter Klitschko and Chagaev. He more or less beats all the rest. Krasniqi was beating Brewster badly before he got knocked out from the reports, and how was he never the same when he had a string of victories and was coming off of a win over a decent fighter in Brian Minto when he fought Thompson? Besides, who else has Brock beaten that makes him better than Thompson? nooo one...oh wait, McCline, oh wait, Zuri Lawrence beat him, wow geez how embarressing. ________ Magic Flight

i dont think youve ever seen Thompson fight if you have that much disdain for him. Thompson beat Timur much more impressively than Brock, and he completely dominated Krasniqi, an upper level heavyweight. but Brock isnt out of the picture, nope I've seen both fights that you mention. Timur plain sucks and Krasniqi has never been the same after Brewster fight. You can't call those 2 victories important enough to propel Thompson into top 10 rankings. Thompson is a work horse against an Arabian stallion. Yes, he gets the job done (can tow a plow), but he will get beaten by a talent any day of the week.

This ****ing discussion sounds like a Boxing 101 class at K1. Grow up, ****ers. Thompson plain sucks, Brock is the only one out there who stands a chance against the rest of the crowd. Haven't you seen Thomspon fight? Who in their right mind can honestly say the he is the best? I just don't get it. I just hate to see Brock being omitted from the picture because he got put away by the punch that would knock any HW out today. I still say Brock wins the IBF tourney and goes on to fight Wlad. Not to say that Wlad won't knock him the **** out again. Sorry, I am drunk as **** tonight. i dont think youve ever seen Thompson fight if you have that much disdain for him. Thompson beat Timur much more impressively than Brock, and he completely dominated Krasniqi, an upper level heavyweight. but Brock isnt out of the picture, nope ________ Bmw x3

Not too drunk because you're still typing correctly. Always do, it's a matter of habit. If I'm drunk enough to type shit, I usually don't make it to the computer. :)

This fucking discussion sounds like a Boxing 101 class at K1. Grow up, fuckers. Thompson plain sucks, Brock is the only one out there who stands a chance against the rest of the crowd. Haven't you seen Thomspon fight? Who in their right mind can honestly say the he is the best? I just don't get it. I just hate to see Brock being omitted from the picture because he got put away by the punch that would knock any HW out today. I still say Brock wins the IBF tourney and goes on to fight Wlad. Not to say that Wlad won't knock him the fuck out again. Sorry, I am drunk as fuck tonight. Not too drunk because you're still typing correctly.

dude, ALL heavyweighs suck. but there are some good fighters on the US olympic heavyweight team, or more good guys that didnt make it. Maybe somebody will come from there. but i garunee there will be some major heavyweight starts before i die. Agree Kball. No more than 4 punches in a row and their stuffed.