Better Defense

Please tell me somone has mentioned Julio Cesar Vasquez! Wright was down several times in that fight. Yes his defence improved immensly, but still. That was before Winky got his tank, come forward style. He was just a slick little southpaw back then, trying to use the duck and slip defense that Floyd uses.

Wow, this was when I was still a Floyd fan, and not a Wright fan. Funny how I voted for Wright. New blood... go ahead and answer if you feel like it.

Please tell me somone has mentioned Julio Cesar Vasquez! Wright was down several times in that fight. Yes his defence improved immensly, but still. he was more exhausted than hurt, and 2 were slips....he was sliping when he passed over the yellow letters in the ring every time... some say hes getting hit more lately???...lmao in his last few fights(trinidad, soliman, taylor, quartey and hopkins) the only one who has landed precise good shots was Quartey and he didnt have the power to hurt Wink.......the other guys couldn't even touch him....

Please tell me somone has mentioned Julio Cesar Vasquez! Wright was down several times in that fight. Yes his defence improved immensly, but still. ...1994? 13 years ago, Wink's first loss, if anything that further lead to Winky's creation indomitable turleshell D, & don't get me wrong i'm definately biased as hell, but countless upper tier boxers have ducked & dodged Wright throughout his prime years... because of his flawless southpaw defensive style, but since he won't take shots like Gatti/Rocky no one outside of the pure boxing brethern can appreciate it Winky got hit clean more against Solimon, Hopkins, and Taylor than Floyd has in most of his fights. if by clean, you mean clean shots to his gloves? & don't even try and count HBO-posterboy-b!tch-Taylor

Please tell me somone has mentioned Julio Cesar Vasquez! Wright was down several times in that fight. Yes his defence improved immensly, but still.

Winky got hit clean more against Solimon, Hopkins, and Taylor than Floyd has in most of his fights.

i think winky handcuffs himself when he blocks cos he doesnt have AS much time to throw like floyd

winkyy who clicked floyd? well slippin i guess counts as defence lol so maybe but winkys got the defence thing down

i voted winky although it's very close. Winky's is more of a pure tactic than floyd, who gets away with using his elbows to keep guys from unloading on him on the inside.

Wow, total blowout for the poll. I was actually convinced that Winky's was better after thinking about it, because Floyd got caught a couple of times with big punches, thank god he wasn't fighting someone with heavy fists.

How does a snake defeat a turtle! Not just any Turtle!! A turtle thats extremely quick to go into its shell. B-Hop = SNAKE Winky = TURTLE SEE!! (SNAKE) B-Hop made sure he got close to (TURTLE) Winky! BUT! (TURTLE) Winky was quick to go into his shell and could not be hurt!! B-Hop throws plenty of powerful combinations BUT! None seem to land. The Turtle is then mistakenly hit by a devastating head butt!! The snake dashes in to take an advantage of the situation but was to late. The turtle starts to bitch complain and cry!!... B-Hop doesn't let Winky go into his shell! Pressures him and in the end THE TURTLE'S SHELL WAS BROKEN. The snake was very victorious! Later that day (SNAKE) B-Hop made turtle stew for his young snakes to eat. The End i think everyone on this thread is just a little bit dumber for reading that stupidass comment... i will never get those 20 seconds of my life back... thank you

LOl how the fuk did winky win against B-Hop??? Winky was moving around like a fat bitch and was wasteing his time complaining to the ref. Winky didn't even get off the ref dick. B-Hop fought and was more active and landed the harder shots KEYWORD: HARDER SHOTS Winky threw feather weight punches. hard shots my ass....the only hard shot hopkins landed was a left hook in the first round..... he threw pitter patter to winkys arms and gloves all night......winky doesnt have power but he landed clean jab-left hand combinations on hopkins consistently...

Floyd has the better defense. Winky has good shell defense BUT! It hard to throw power punches in that stance and that defense only works on small opponents! Look what Taylor and B-Hop did to Winky. dude do you watch boxing??????they didnt do shit to winky....

bhop didnt break shit, he just marginally outworked winky and was more flashy, winky landed cleaner shots and landed more in general while being almost as active as hopkins....and was more precise winky won that fight, punches in the arms dont count.... b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l... thank you boxing gods for i'm not the only one

How does a snake defeat a turtle! Not just any Turtle!! A turtle thats extremely quick to go into its shell. B-Hop = SNAKE Winky = TURTLE SEE!! (SNAKE) B-Hop made sure he got close to (TURTLE) Winky! BUT! (TURTLE) Winky was quick to go into his shell and could not be hurt!! B-Hop throws plenty of powerful combinations BUT! None seem to land. The Turtle is then mistakenly hit by a devastating head butt!! The snake dashes in to take an advantage of the situation but was to late. The turtle starts to bitch complain and cry!!... B-Hop doesn't let Winky go into his shell! Pressures him and in the end THE TURTLE'S SHELL WAS BROKEN. The snake was very victorious! Later that day (SNAKE) B-Hop made turtle stew for his young snakes to eat. The End bhop didnt break shit, he just marginally outworked winky and was more flashy, winky landed cleaner shots and landed more in general while being almost as active as hopkins....and was more precise winky won that fight, punches in the arms dont count....

Floyd has the better defense. Winky has good shell defense BUT!... Look what Taylor and B-Hop did to Winky. what did taylor do to winky??? jack... and shit http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/images/1/17/JERMAINTAYLOR.jpg and all b-hop did was hold winky's gloves all fck day... the only nice shot he got in was the headbutt... http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc308/southpawWiNKy/WinkyBHopSTATS.jpg?t=1189098631 Did you even watch a round in those fights? or just wikipedia them?

But Winky hasn't won all his fights, and Winky is more boring than Floyd. He's also had alot more fights and a different harder career path, fighting I guess in Europe for a number years. That's how I see it and I'm not exactly his biggest fan. Floyd has had the machine behind him since day 1 as a pro. Winky does now but as I said was not always the case. Undefeated records are overrated sometimes.

winky will never get hurt floyd gets caught flush sometime But Winky hasn't won all his fights, and Winky is more boring than Floyd.

winky will never get hurt floyd gets caught flush sometime

I've always said Hopkins is my #1 for defense. How Winky is still in the discussion after Bernard proved who the better man defensively is/was, is beyond me.. When Mayweather gets roughed up by Hatton that will close the matter. Both Winky and Mayweather are badly overrated in this department. Although... I will say they do a better job of showing their defensive ability through exaggerated posturing and reactions that average idiots can recognize. (no diss on the threadstarter who is liked and respected) Out of the two I picked Mayweather. Winky is too much guts and offense to be a better defensive fighter than Floyd. He doesn't try to be, and therefore isn't. But Wright's method with the gloves is a Boxing marvel. I love that. Truly, the shell is an offensive tool. Winky basically forgo's defense. Of course I won't deny it works beautifully defensively.. It's just that Winky uses that shell for more than just protection. He uses it for range and counterpunching primarily IMO.