If Calzaghe beats Kessler, where would you put him in the P4P Rankings ?

Top 5 I would say, probably right at number 5, Who the hell said they would have him number 2 after pacman lmao that was a hilarious statement.

id like to no wat p4p fighters hopkins fought aswel mate im still searching dlh wasnt on the list and i can remember if tito was. the only world class natural middlewieghts hopkins fought he lost to and thats a fact i never said that calz was top 3 but ppl are suggesting he shouldnt be on there period Mate De La Hoya, trinidad, Jones, Tarver and Winky and Taylor have all been P4P at some stage in their carrer. How many fighters that have been p4p has calzaghe fought?

Hold on, i never said lacy wasnt a threat, i didnt bold his name in my shitlist of Joe Calzaghe bums, fact remains, hopkins took on several p4p fighters, i forgot to mention he fought taylor who is/was also p4p. How many weight classes has joe moved up? How many p4p fighters has he fought? Who are the biggest names on his resume? Get back to me with the answer and we can talk about calzaghe at no3 p4p. id like to no wat p4p fighters hopkins fought aswel mate im still searching dlh wasnt on the list and i can remember if tito was. the only world class natural middlewieghts hopkins fought he lost to and thats a fact i never said that calz was top 3 but ppl are suggesting he shouldnt be on there period

i think calzghe is very underated and i think he's in top 5

I don't know what 'P4P' means? I guess it's upto The Ring writers or whatever.

Yeah I don't know about top 5. If he beats Kessler, and then Hopkins yeah he's definitely a top 5 fighter. Because Floyd, Pac, JMM, Hopkins, and Wright are the five best fighters. And Mosley, M.A.B., Cotto and others comprise the other slots. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

he lost to roy jones. tito and de lahoya were welterweights just coming up when they fought hopkins. hopkins is alright but i don't really like him i thoght he fought real dirty and was the reason the fight with him and wright was boring and i thought winky won the fight Who cares, the point isnt wether he won or lost, but the fact he actually got in the ring with a p4p, which calzaghe hasnt done, Would calzaghe be unbeaten if he got in the ring with a prime roy jones?? No way, If you are a class fighter.......... The more great fighters you fight, he higher the chance you will lose, The less great fighters you fight, the more chance you have of not losing

:lol1: Ive highlight some of the names of the world beaters that calzaghe has taken on in his outstanding title reign, as you can see, he only takes on the best fighters in the world. As for Mick 66, mate lets have a look who Hopkins has got in the ring with Tarver, roy jones, winky wright, oscar de la hoya, tito trinidad, Winky has been in with: Taylor, Hopkins, Tito, Mosley. How many of those names have been p4p? Now tell me how many p4p fighters calzaghe has fought. Then tell me one single world class fighter kessler has fought, and let the maths speak for themselves. he lost to roy jones. tito and de lahoya were welterweights just coming up when they fought hopkins. hopkins is alright but i don't really like him i thoght he fought real dirty and was the reason the fight with him and wright was boring and i thought winky won the fight

I'd say Top 5.

but didnt hopkins do that for years doing the same amount of defences and in them years hes biggest 2 victorys where over a guy who started at super fearwieght and was a natural welterwieght in oscar de la hoya and felix trinidad who was a natural welterwieght who moved up for the bigger money. calzaghe has also got 2 big wins. chris eubank - ya eubank was a late sub because of steve collins pulling out and probably on the slide but is still a big win for a guy who was untested at world level. jeff lacy - it amazes me how everyone has forgotten wat this man was a bout pre march 06 , he was this undefeated champion with power in both fists and was on the verge of becoming a superstar and a p4p fighter. also lacy was the heavy favourite sent over to add a big name to hes resume and that was a 34 year old joe calzaghe who is gonna get knocked out. but because calzaghe wins every round bar 1 because of a point deduction and hits lacy with a 1006 punches in the process. lacy was nothing and never was nothing Hold on, i never said lacy wasnt a threat, i didnt bold his name in my shitlist of Joe Calzaghe bums, fact remains, hopkins took on several p4p fighters, i forgot to mention he fought taylor who is/was also p4p. How many weight classes has joe moved up? How many p4p fighters has he fought? Who are the biggest names on his resume? Get back to me with the answer and we can talk about calzaghe at no3 p4p.

Number 3? Are you serious. Who is the better fighter, Calzaghe or R.Marquez?........ Marquez easy, Even JMM is a better fighter than Calzaghe Mosley or Calzaghe? Mosley Come on dude, casamayor is better than Calzaghe, calzaghe in the p4p is bad enough, but top 3 is just rediculous, 168 is a cack divison bottom line, credit to joe for dominating it, but its a poor divison and he has spent 10 years in it fighting little to no p4p fighters or legitmate world class threats (other than lacy). but didnt hopkins do that for years doing the same amount of defences and in them years hes biggest 2 victorys where over a guy who started at super fearwieght and was a natural welterwieght in oscar de la hoya and felix trinidad who was a natural welterwieght who moved up for the bigger money. calzaghe has also got 2 big wins. chris eubank - ya eubank was a late sub because of steve collins pulling out and probably on the slide but is still a big win for a guy who was untested at world level. jeff lacy - it amazes me how everyone has forgotten wat this man was a bout pre march 06 , he was this undefeated champion with power in both fists and was on the verge of becoming a superstar and a p4p fighter. also lacy was the heavy favourite sent over to add a big name to hes resume and that was a 34 year old joe calzaghe who is gonna get knocked out. but because calzaghe wins every round bar 1 because of a point deduction and hits lacy with a 1006 punches in the process. lacy was nothing and never was nothing

Calzaghe win a win here will have cleaned out 168 (beating Lacy and Kessler, and by proxy Beyer and Andrade since Kessler dominated them) and could be cosidered the greatest super middleweight ever. All the title defenses, being undefeated (something only Mayweather can claim in the upper echelon of the P4P lists), put all that together and I would rank him probably at no. 3 behind Mayweather and Pac. Number 3? Are you serious. Who is the better fighter, Calzaghe or R.Marquez?........ Marquez easy, Even JMM is a better fighter than Calzaghe Mosley or Calzaghe? Mosley Come on dude, casamayor is better than Calzaghe, calzaghe in the p4p is bad enough, but top 3 is just rediculous, 168 is a cack divison bottom line, credit to joe for dominating it, but its a poor divison and he has spent 10 years in it fighting little to no p4p fighters or legitmate world class threats (other than lacy).

Calzaghe win a win here will have cleaned out 168 (beating Lacy and Kessler, and by proxy Beyer and Andrade since Kessler dominated them) and could be cosidered the greatest super middleweight ever. All the title defenses, being undefeated (something only Mayweather can claim in the upper echelon of the P4P lists), put all that together and I would rank him probably at no. 3 behind Mayweather and Pac.

joe c has an awesome resume, i can't believe people would diss him. wins against Lacy, Bika, Veit (x2), Ashira, MAG, mitchell, Mger, starie, shieka, woodhall since 2000!!. :lol1: Ive highlight some of the names of the world beaters that calzaghe has taken on in his outstanding title reign, as you can see, he only takes on the best fighters in the world. As for Mick 66, mate lets have a look who Hopkins has got in the ring with Tarver, roy jones, winky wright, oscar de la hoya, tito trinidad, Winky has been in with: Taylor, Hopkins, Tito, Mosley. How many of those names have been p4p? Now tell me how many p4p fighters calzaghe has fought. Then tell me one single world class fighter kessler has fought, and let the maths speak for themselves.

Yeah, I can see Winky cuz he went up in weight.. But Hopkins, no. He is aged (still good, obviously) but his puzzle has been figured out, even if he is still winning. Joe's puzzle has NEVER been figured out, not yet anyways.

Yeah, but they are European fighters , so that automatically disquals them from being P4P.. How you put Hopkins and Winky above Calzaghe is beyond me.. Calzaghe has not been close to losing a fight...Robin Read was not a great performance...but he's been top dog for so long.... If you don't have in in the top 5 your Raving Mad..

joe c has an awesome resume, i can't believe people would diss him. wins against Lacy, Bika, Veit (x2), Ashira, MAG, mitchell, Mger, starie, shieka, woodhall since 2000!! That is 10 fighters who had a combined, what, 10 losses total coming into their bouts with Joe C. Just because he hasn't been on HBO/showtime doesn't mean he sucks........

ummmmm how does this not do much for either? they're both the top of their division! and a division that has given a lot of p4p guys since the 1990's. I say that the winner moves up to #5 and the loser drops down to #10, simple as that.

Seriously, beating Kessler doesnt do much for Calzaghe in terms of his place on the p4p list imo, we got a couple p4p's fightng each other, Mosley vs Cotto (Im pretty confident mosley is on the p4p list) Hatton vs Mayweather and we just had winky fight hopkins We will also have another Marquez vs Vasquez fighing again perhaps, thats another two p4p's who could fight. These fights will decide who moves up where, Kessler isnt in the league of any of the fighters mentioned and so i dont see how people can talk about calzaghe being number 2-3 p4p in the world. Casamayor is a better fighter than Calzaghe and he isnt even on the list.

not on it :D