I'm gonna say round 7
This fight is going to be the heavyweight version of Gatti/Gomez. Like Gatti, Holyfield will fight bravely until the 7th round only to be KO'd by an accumulation of punches from the younger,faster,more powerful volume puncher in Sultan Ibragimov. Holyfield will finally retire after this fight and be inducted into the Hall of Fame. FAREWELL EVANDER
I didn't pick Holyfield - but I'm giving him a shot to be close on points anyway. He barely beat Oquendo - surely a Top 50 fighter, no? on points and he's durable - who else besides Toney ever beat stopped him (besides Bowe - there's no one near as good as Bowe in today's heavyweight scene)?
And the thread is about Ibragimov getting a KO win...which I have no reason to think will happen. That's more what I'm disputing
Holyfield wins in the 5th by KO Bro!
Neils, this is a terrible hand you're playing. If you're gonna go with Holy, just post a picture of Sultan's torso. It's a better argument.
By the way there are more than fifty current HWs better than Holy. He's somewhere between 60 and 80 probably
I didn't pick Holyfield - but I'm giving him a shot to be close on points anyway. He barely beat Oquendo - surely a Top 50 fighter, no? on points and he's durable - who else besides Toney ever beat stopped him (besides Bowe - there's no one near as good as Bowe in today's heavyweight scene)?
And the thread is about Ibragimov getting a KO win...which I have no reason to think will happen. That's more what I'm disputing
Name 1 Ibragimov quality win...
C'mon guys...
But really - boxrec isn't the correct way necessarily to argue a point, but it can be very useful - anyone here know ANY of the fighters on there prior to Alfred Cole & Zuri Lawrence? OK - and we know where they rank in the division...
We've got a well-past prime Lance Whitaker on his record - a DRAW with Ray Austin, who also has zero quality wins on his record (Owen Beck turned out "Not" to be quality), a win over Javier Mora, who is only a notable name in the division for happening to be the guy who stepped on Kirk Johnson's foot and briefly hold a TKO win til it was reversed...
And then we have Shannon Briggs, who fought a weaker group of opponents than Holyfield to "earn" his title shot, then struck gold with a lucky KO punch in the 12th down on every scorecard...
Ibragimov will likely win, but if it's dominating, it will be the best 'W' on his resume, or at least even with one-hit-wonder-in-the-second-career Briggs...
Name 1 Ibragimov quality win...
Neils, this is a terrible hand you're playing. If you're gonna go with Holy, just post a picture of Sultan's torso. It's a better argument.
By the way there are more than fifty current HWs better than Holy. He's somewhere between 60 and 80 probably
Let me remind you dellusional Holyfield fans what happened in his last six fights.
Toney - got KTFO by a pillow puncher
Donald - got shutout by a gatekeeper
Oquendo - got a gift decision against a shot fighter
Bates - beat a fat used car salesman
Madallone - beat a clubfighter, poor mans Rocky Balboa
Savarese - couldn't finish a washed up 41 year old bum
All of a sudden you think Holyfield is back and he is going to beat an undefeated legitimate Top 10 Champion. Take your head's out of your asses.
Name 1 Ibragimov quality win...
Let me remind you dellusional Holyfield fans what happened in his last six fights.
Toney - got KTFO by a pillow puncher
Donald - got shutout by a gatekeeper
Oquendo - got a gift decision against a shot fighter
Bates - beat a fat used car salesman
Madallone - beat a clubfighter, poor mans Rocky Balboa
Savarese - couldn't finish a washed up 41 year old bum
All of a sudden you think Holyfield is back and he is going to beat an undefeated legitimate Top 10 Champion. Take your head's out of your asses.
Thank you. He wouldn't even be able to get a draw with Ray Austin.
Let me remind you dellusional Holyfield fans what happened in his last six fights.
Toney - got KTFO by a pillow puncher
Donald - got shutout by a gatekeeper
Oquendo - got a gift decision against a shot fighter
Bates - beat a fat used car salesman
Madallone - beat a clubfighter, poor mans Rocky Balboa
Savarese - couldn't finish a washed up 41 year old bum
All of a sudden you think Holyfield is back and he is going to beat an undefeated legitimate Top 10 Champion. Take your head's out of your asses.
ok, you didn't post THAT pic, but you did post a pic last week as if it were evidence.
I talked to all the Briggs fans at Boardwalk Hall in June, I remember everyone saying, 'have you seen this Russian?' and 'Briggs is jacked, he's gonna take this honkeys head off', as if that were boxing analysis.
Sultan is not all that good in my mind. I don't put him in the top 5, and neither do most people. But Holyfield? He's not even a top 50 HW right now. It's sad really
Holy is a top 50 HW now; maybe not deserving of a top 15 ranking, but when you've got 4 major sanctioning bodies and a number of fighters only getting ranked by one of them, guys with names get title shots...
Ibragimov drew with Ray Austin; he's not going to blow Holyfield out.
He's no Larry Donald (smilie)
ok, you didn't post THAT pic, but you did post a pic last week as if it were evidence.
I talked to all the Briggs fans at Boardwalk Hall in June, I remember everyone saying, 'have you seen this Russian?' and 'Briggs is jacked, he's gonna take this honkeys head off', as if that were boxing analysis.
Sultan is not all that good in my mind. I don't put him in the top 5, and neither do most people. But Holyfield? He's not even a top 50 HW right now. It's sad really
Holy is better than the Sultan of Slum.
The pic has nuthin to do with it.
Sultan is a fuckin BUM, aint never fought anyone.
And is soon to be ex champion.
ok, you didn't post THAT pic, but you did post a pic last week as if it were evidence.
I talked to all the Briggs fans at Boardwalk Hall in June, I remember everyone saying, 'have you seen this Russian?' and 'Briggs is jacked, he's gonna take this honkeys head off', as if that were boxing analysis.
Sultan is not all that good in my mind. I don't put him in the top 5, and neither do most people. But Holyfield? He's not even a top 50 HW right now. It's sad really
'cause a picture of a guy's torso is an accurate indicator of his fighting ability.
You dummies never learn.
The pic has nuthin to do with it.
Sultan is a fuckin BUM, aint never fought anyone.
And is soon to be ex champion.
I'm gonna say round 7
This fight is going to be the heavyweight version of Gatti/Gomez. Like Gatti, Holyfield will fight bravely until the 7th round only to be KO'd by an accumulation of punches from the younger,faster,more powerful volume puncher in Sultan Ibragimov. Holyfield will finally retire after this fight and be inducted into the Hall of Fame. FAREWELL EVANDER
I'd say between 8-10. I don't think Holyfield will hear the bell for the 12th. Ibragimov's not even a big hitter, but when you're done, you're done.