Can you link me? I'm not calling you a liar, but I would actually like to see a site that does post official cards. That would be sweet. Also, I would like to have it for comparison the next time I do watch that fight.
sorry man, cant find the article, fightnews doesnt have an archive....
Can you link me? I'm not calling you a liar, but I would actually like to see a site that does post official cards. That would be sweet. Also, I would like to have it for comparison the next time I do watch that fight.
i actually saw that on fightnews and p4pboxing :D... but i believe they don't keep a historic archive so i guess only we who saw that can tell :grouphug: ... i personally think that it was no difference since marquez won by a fair margin :boxing:
Can you link me? I'm not calling you a liar, but I would actually like to see a site that does post official cards. That would be sweet. Also, I would like to have it for comparison the next time I do watch that fight.
sure man, let me see if they still have it in their archive....
Id imagine that the scores would have been 10-8 for Marquez without the knockdown. Counting the knockdown, Barrera should have gotten a 9-8 round or at the very least a 9-9 round.
That video is pretty good and shows a lot of what really happened in that fight, but whats missing in it? The mid-late rounds, like the 9th 10th and 11th. My memory isnt perfect, but I think I remember Marquez winning a good majority of the later rounds. I thought Barrera took a lot of the earlier ones, before those ones. Ive seen this fight a ton of times, lol
What I definately do remember though, is that I had it 114-113 Marquez, without the knockdown. With the knockdown, I had it 114-112 Barrera. So go figure, the call made the difference in the fight...
but hey, if yall want to rejudge it by watching it again, its not a big deal, its an outstanding fight. have fun, its in good quality. http://stage6.divx.com/user/boomtarat/video/1229275/Barrera-Vs-Marquez
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It Was A 3point Swing
it wasnt....... barrera was clearly losing the round tha makes it in the opinion of not biased people a 10-9 round for barrera, and barrera shouldnt have hit marquez when he was down under any circumstances, he should have been deducted a point, hell, if marquez was a pussy, he could have gotten barrera disqualified.....
that round should have been scored 9-9 IMO, the judges gave it 10-9 for marquez so that makes it a one point flip....
yep they did, it was reported in fightnews and p4pboxing...
they actually did a favor to barrera, as they had absolutely no obligation to somewhat make up for the referee's mistake...they could have scored that round 10-8 for marquez with no fault to them whatsoever....
Can you link me? I'm not calling you a liar, but I would actually like to see a site that does post official cards. That would be sweet. Also, I would like to have it for comparison the next time I do watch that fight.
All 3 judges saw the round a draw? In America? American judges never score rounds a draw, maybe 1 judge in 3 fights will make 1 round a draw (1 out of 9 total). Are you sure? I cannot possibly believe that 3 judges called the round a draw and made it 10-9 with a point deduction for Barrera.
yep they did, it was reported in fightnews and p4pboxing...
they actually did a favor to barrera, as they had absolutely no obligation to somewhat make up for the referee's mistake...they could have scored that round 10-8 for marquez with no fault to them whatsoever....
the referee didnt count the knockdown so they obviously couldnt give the round to barrera, but the jufdges saw the situation and gave him a draw in te round but had to deduct him a point(fairly as barrera did hit marquez when he was down....)so that makes it 10-9....for marquez
All 3 judges saw the round a draw? In America? American judges never score rounds a draw, maybe 1 judge in 3 fights will make 1 round a draw (1 out of 9 total). Are you sure? I cannot possibly believe that 3 judges called the round a draw and made it 10-9 with a point deduction for Barrera.
IF I HAD TO PICK THE FIGHTER TO BE IN THAT FIGHT I WOULD PIC BARERRA WITH OUT QUESTION... MARQUEZ IS TOUGHT AND TAKES HARD SHOTS AND KEEPS COMING BUT THAT DOESNT WIN U FIGHTS.. IT MIGHT MAKE U WIN ON THE CARDS BUT HE GOT BEAT UP IN THAT FIGHT
and he still won at least 8 rounds, so even with the point flip he wins......boxing(when they have to get a decision) is about winning rounds, sorry...
all judges scored that round 10-9 for marquez because of the point deduction for barrera,they obviously saw MAB dropped Marquez so gave him a draw in the round but docked him a point for the deduction...
that being said, Marquez clearly won that fight, so it was only a point flip, so quit the robbery bitching, marquez won at least 8 rounds....
IF I HAD TO PICK THE FIGHTER TO BE IN THAT FIGHT I WOULD PIC BARERRA WITH OUT QUESTION... MARQUEZ IS TOUGHT AND TAKES HARD SHOTS AND KEEPS COMING BUT THAT DOESNT WIN U FIGHTS.. IT MIGHT MAKE U WIN ON THE CARDS BUT HE GOT BEAT UP IN THAT FIGHT
10-9 doesn't make any sense at all for that round. It should be 10-8 or 9-9 with a point deduction.
the referee didnt count the knockdown so they obviously couldnt give the round to barrera, but the jufdges saw the situation and gave him a draw in te round but had to deduct him a point(fairly as barrera did hit marquez when he was down....)so that makes it 10-9....for marquez
all judges scored that round 10-9 for marquez because of the point deduction for barrera,they obviously saw MAB dropped Marquez so gave him a draw in the round but docked him a point for the deduction...
that being said, Marquez clearly won that fight, so it was only a point flip, so quit the robbery bitching, marquez won at least 8 rounds....
10-9 doesn't make any sense at all for that round. It should be 10-8 or 9-9 with a point deduction.
all judges scored that round 10-9 for marquez because of the point deduction for barrera,they obviously saw MAB dropped Marquez so gave him a draw in the round but docked him a point for the deduction...
that being said, Marquez clearly won that fight, so it was only a point flip, so quit the robbery bitching, marquez won at least 8 rounds....
Marquez dominated the round before the knockdown so it would have been 10-9 for Barrera if you count the knockdown and the foul didnt happen. That makes it 115-113 for JMM still on my card.
How could you have Marquez win if Marquez had problems landing. Hell, after the fight you can see the difference between their faces and this is the part where ppl say marquez swells worse thats the reason why for that. I call bs
Idk. It was a tough one to score. I thought Marquez did enough early in the rounds to win most of them.
Barrera only did a lot in the last 30 seconds, but it wasnt enough.
It WOULD have been a close fight had round 7 been scored correctly, but it wasnt.
Idk, it really depends on what you like. I definetly like Marquez in the fight, i thought he was the clear winner.
w/e, to each his own
How could you have Marquez win if Marquez had problems landing. Hell, after the fight you can see the difference between their faces and this is the part where ppl say marquez swells worse thats the reason why for that. I call bs
marquez got his ass beat in that fight .. if u know boxing the cards didnt tell the story
yea thats quite a swing. it wouldnt have been a 10-8 round for him anyway, cause he was hurt and dominated prior the KD.
so 3 points he was robbed of.
But, idk if im alone here or anything, but i thought Marquez dominated the fight and i agreed with the 116-111 scores. the 118-??? was way to high though