What is the problem with Americans? Why don't they rate our fighter's. They tend to only recognize their own fighter's and disregard everyone else's. Why do they think the whole world revolves around them. In most cases their fighters are rated at the top of each division, and are always top of the pound for pound lists. They do however seem to recognize mexicans, is that because they border mexico. I'm not saying that our fighter's are the best or anyone else's, and quite often they do have the best boxers, but it just seems to me that they are reluctant, to rate our fighters. Like Dynamite_kid said on a previous post if Lennox Lewis was american he would have gone down as one of the all-time greats. Does anyone agree with me, also can anyone think of any other instances, where they were reluctant to rate a superior fighter from either britain or anywhere else, above one of there fighters.
Yep, because American's go over-seas at every opportunity they get don't they?
Maybe you didn't read my post correctly. Most of the international boxing media is based in the states! plus Britain is small. Thats like only fighting fighters from Massachusetts & New Hampshire. I'm not saying thats bad, I'm just saying there keeping themselves from gaining international respect & noteterity. Plus, generally speaking US fighters would travel to try and get titles, most recently Lacy, Ruiz, Manfrado, Holyfield, etc... Most Lost, but at least they took the flight to chase there dreams. There's one thing being comfortable were you are & another thing wanting to be considered a great.
Number One, our country (america) is fixated on trying to have the next heavyweight champion be here from the states. Plus America controls most of the boxing media coverage. I personally think Russian Fighters get less credit then British Fighters. One thing about British fighters thou is besides the Lennox Lewis's, most fight in there own country never expanding themselves to go international and show the rest of the world there good or not. You can't just beat up Todd down the street for the rest of your life, if you want to be legendary. yah feel me
Yep, because American's go over-seas at every opportunity they get don't they?
i think lennox is 1 of the best heavyweights of all time i also feel like calzaghe is 1 of the best boxers in the game, besides ricky hatton i don't have a problem with any non american fighter
Number One, our country (america) is fixated on trying to have the next heavyweight champion be here from the states. Plus America controls most of the boxing media coverage. I personally think Russian Fighters get less credit then British Fighters. One thing about British fighters thou is besides the Lennox Lewis's, most fight in there own country never expanding themselves to go international and show the rest of the world there good or not. You can't just beat up Todd down the street for the rest of your life, if you want to be legendary. yah feel me
You may have a point. How he ever got KO'd by a guy like Rahman I'll never know. Still, it could have been worse, he could have lost to Maskaev twice.
Who overrates Rahman?
probably 90% of American boxing fans want hatton to beat mayweather. Just because they dont think he will doesnt mean they underrate him.
And lennox lewis is overrated shit.
You may have a point. How he ever got KO'd by a guy like Rahman I'll never know. Still, it could have been worse, he could have lost to Maskaev twice.
What is the problem with Americans? Why don't they rate our fighter's. They tend to only recognize their own fighter's and disregard everyone else's. Why do they think the whole world revolves around them. In most cases their fighters are rated at the top of each division, and are always top of the pound for pound lists. They do however seem to recognize mexicans, is that because they border mexico. I'm not saying that our fighter's are the best or anyone else's, and quite often they do have the best boxers, but it just seems to me that they are reluctant, to rate our fighters. Like Dynamite_kid said on a previous post if Lennox Lewis was american he would have gone down as one of the all-time greats. Does anyone agree with me, also can anyone think of any other instances, where they were reluctant to rate a superior fighter from either britain or anywhere else, above one of there fighters.
probably 90% of American boxing fans want hatton to beat mayweather. Just because they dont think he will doesnt mean they underrate him.
And lennox lewis is overrated shit.
Face it England just doesn't have as many good fighters as the rest of the world.
After the USA and Mexico, there are more British world champs than any other nation. The Blighty boys aren't doing too badly.
...AND THE TIME ZONE.
hahaha...thats a good point.
Im an American, and Ill admit I sometimes dont rate British fighters perhaps where they belong. Why? because I never get to see them fight! Yall have sky sports or Eurosport and all that, but its kind of hard to get in America, my best chance is the internet, and even then its not the easiest thing to get British fights...
I give British fighters credit where credit is due though, when Ive seen them and have good records. imo, Lennox Lewis has to be a top 10 heavyweight, whatever the hell nationality hes considered...and Hatton and Calzaghe, theyre the top of their weight classes and ought to be on the p4p list because of their consistancy.
Is that fair enough to you?
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What is the problem with Americans? Why don't they rate our fighter's. They tend to only recognize their own fighter's and disregard everyone else's. Why do they think the whole world revolves around them. In most cases their fighters are rated at the top of each division, and are always top of the pound for pound lists. They do however seem to recognize mexicans, is that because they border mexico. I'm not saying that our fighter's are the best or anyone else's, and quite often they do have the best boxers, but it just seems to me that they are reluctant, to rate our fighters. Like Dynamite_kid said on a previous post if Lennox Lewis was american he would have gone down as one of the all-time greats. Does anyone agree with me, also can anyone think of any other instances, where they were reluctant to rate a superior fighter from either britain or anywhere else, above one of there fighters.
No, I dont think we Americans ignore your fighters (I assume you are talking about European fighters). We know your fighters, however we havent been exposed to them much. Those who we have heard of that come over this way have either peaked our interests or been more hype. Unfortunately, the fear of corrupt scoring has led to many of our fighters to not risk traveling overseas to face some of the competition, so there really is no way of rating them. I think Calzaghe is the perfect example of what you are saying. We knew of him here in the States, but there was not much exposure. Once Lacy went over there and Calzaghe gave him that beatdown, it opened our eyes and made us appreciate him. There's the reason we, for the most part, consider him the best Super Middleweight of the world.
squeelpiggy - Thanks for that mate, never really looked at it like that. Maybe I was just generalising about Americans. But still think once they have heard of them, not all but certainly a lot of Americans just seem reluctant to think they are any good simply because they are not american.
true shit.
We call our domestic champions 'world champions'. Some of the posters here are thick enough to try to justify that. We can't even medal in our own games (basketball, baseball), but we insist it's only b/c the rules are different. Our players are 'really' better because they are taller and perform well in useless isolated training events like vertical jump and 40 yrd. dash. Americans don't even understand sports, they don't understand WHY we don't do any of it right anymore.
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What the hell are you going on about, unless you can come up with something sensible and inteligent then get lost freak. I suppose your on your summer holidays, trying to relieve bordom until you go back to school.
squeelpiggy well put, but what is that idiot chipper on about, it's people like her that give us the preconceived ideas about what americans are like and think.
squeelpiggy - Thanks for that mate, never really looked at it like that. Maybe I was just generalising about Americans. But still think once they have heard of them, not all but certainly a lot of Americans just seem reluctant to think they are any good simply because they are not american.
Another factor is that we often see British fighters fight the best European opposition and vice versa early in their careers, so they can build up a decent record, but Americans have not only not heard of the prospect, they haven't heard of any of their opponents either, so assume that none of them were any good. I've heard British people saying that Mayweather isn't any good because they haven't heard of him. It's perfectly natural to make that assumption. The trouble is that a vocal minority are not open to changing their opinions and will therefore attempt to justify their non-rating of a fighter instead of just being open to changing their mind.
A good example is Calzaghe. Instead of saying "Well you know something, he can actually box" a few people said "Well Lacy was shit anyway!". Most AMericans really hadn't seen or heard Calzaghe before the Lacy fight and most decided that they were wrong about him, and that he had ability after the fight. Only a few continued to say he sucked.
squeelpiggy - Thanks for that mate, never really looked at it like that. Maybe I was just generalising about Americans. But still think once they have heard of them, not all but certainly a lot of Americans just seem reluctant to think they are any good simply because they are not american.
Lennox Lewis was Canadian.
But I know what you mean. If I'd been American I would have surely got the title shot that I deserve.
lennox lewis was'nt canadian, he was born in london
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