Hatton is undefeated, the lineal champ at 140, and in his prime. Where do you rank Hatton compared to Mayweather's other opposition? Is he a better opponent than guys like DLH, Castillo, Judah, Corrales, etc.?
Given the point of respective career's in which PBF fought them, Hatton is the best.
Honorable mentions go to Castillo, Corrales, De La Hoya, Genaro Hernandez.
Check out Hatton's record...
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9314&cat=boxer
Then check out Gatti's
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=3999&cat=boxer
There's a whole load of difference in terms of opponent there....
look im not talking about opponents right now. im talking about who is better?
you cant JUST say gatti beat this guy so he can beat hatton. you gotta analyse by using the fightiers positives and negatives aswell. and therefore i think hatton can win.
you gonna say yeah tyson beat all these guys he could beat lennox? cuz lennox ko'd him on the 8th.
damn i voted wrong....anyway
i consider old DLH, Castillo, Corrales and Hernandez better fighters than Hatton, Hatton is much more uncomfortable to fight though....
He beats Hatton, Cotto and Mosley, he ain't gonna be too far off...There's nobody who has his talent, there ain't nobody who has dominated their division for so long, unbeaten. Harsh, but a reality.
Props for the good argument, dude.
dominate his division for so long??? :banana:
How so? he didnt dominate 140 and beating Mitcehll. Judah and Baldo is NOT dominating his division! Dela wasnt at 147 and HAtton isnt at 147..man, you make no sense! :nonono:
its hard to say where he ranks.
there are a lot of things to take into consideration...
1. are we speaking of these top fighters in their prime...or how they were doing around their last fights.
thats the biggest thing to decide...
and 2nd...at what weight...
i will consider each fighter in their prime...
corrales first of all would only lose to hatton via TKO if he lost...
corrales will always get up and want to fight...thats just the man corrales was...a fight between him and hatton could have easily measured up to gatti-ward or corrales v. castillo...a true war.
that is a fight that i would have loved to have seen...their styles are perfect for each other...
hatton is the better fighter compared to castillo and judah (prime or not)...
hatton made castillo look like he was a few levels below him in their fight (although castillo wasnt mentally in the fight) BUT even if castillo was in his prime you'd be looking at either a UD win after 12 or a KO/TKO in the late championship rounds (rounds 10-12). hatton is just too much for him...
judah (especially now) would be avalanched by hatton and probably be stopped around the 6/7th round...probably TKO.
judah in his prime (in my opinion) was a more aggresive/slighly slower floyd mayweather jr...zab was a dancer when he need to be and had some speed with his legs and hands but also packed some power in this punches...he was a pretty decent fighter...i dont know how it would have panned out exactly but i believe hatton could win somehow.
hatton is not better than Oscar De La Hoya...Oscar would win (in his prime...and has a damn good chance now that he's past his prime). hatton has natural talent...as does oscar (thats why they call him the golden boy...) but oscar has experience that hatton doesnt...oscar has had more title fights and a far better list of opponents on his record.
oscar would win after 12 rounds (he couldnt knock out hatton though...hatton's chin is pretty tough...not an ali chin...but still decent).
gatti...that would be the same as a corrales fight...another war...and just like if he fought corrales i cant pick a winner...it would be whoever caught how the most and the first one to do it (ie. another miranda/pavlik type fight).
i'd say hatton is the 4th or 5th best opponent floyd has faced...but i only say this comparing them to their primes...floyd fought corrales falling off the wagon...gatti falling off the wagon...and judah BEGINNING to fall of the wagon.
had floyd fought some of these fighters at the top of their game im sure floyd would have 1 or two losses on his record (de la hoya would be one for sure).
This man is the bomb...Frank P, you're the biz. Too much boxing knowledge, where d'you get it from?
sharmba was also a very good boxer but was a little over the hill when he fought floyd so he does not count just like tszyu and castillo were a little over the hill and those are hattons best fights.
well hatton isnt fighting 200 bums. hes going in to fight p4p number one and if he loses then does that mean he's a better fighter cuz he took the fight?
hatton would beat gatti. hatton isnt slow. gatti is fast if you allow him to box you, but hatton aint that kinda fighter who would allow you to have time. thus i strongly believe hatton can defeat gatti quite easily.
yeah i aint disputing floyld isnt good. im talking about gatti so dont change the subject.
you think gatti is better than hatton. i dont
Check out Hatton's record...
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9314&cat=boxer
Then check out Gatti's
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=3999&cat=boxer
There's a whole load of difference in terms of opponent there....
I voted 3rd behind Judah and DLH stylistically, but in reality he is tailor made for Floyd physically. His record is great though, so as far as accomplishment he would probabaly be #2.
A few times constitutes twice, in three fights.
Boxing is about strength of opposition (not essentially) - you can fight 200 times against bums and win every fight, but if you fight warriors and win, you're the bomb. See: Floyd Mayweather.
well hatton isnt fighting 200 bums. hes going in to fight p4p number one and if he loses then does that mean he's a better fighter cuz he took the fight?
hatton would beat gatti. hatton isnt slow. gatti is fast if you allow him to box you, but hatton aint that kinda fighter who would allow you to have time. thus i strongly believe hatton can defeat gatti quite easily.
yeah i aint disputing floyld isnt good. im talking about gatti so dont change the subject.
you think gatti is better than hatton. i dont
You are one of the worst posters I've ever seen.
The fact that Hatton 'would've been beaten' by all the fighters Gatti WAS beaten by does not make Gatti a better fighter than Hatton.
"I didn't claim Micky Ward was better than JLC or Kosta. Don't put words into my mouth."
Did you not?
Hatton fought JLC and Tszyu...
Both were shot. Kosta was old and shot, JLC was old, shot and coming off of hammerings from greats.
boxing is about who you have fought, but its also about winning and on that basis i think hatton is better than gatti. gatti is lacking a lot defensively and hatton would eat him up. gatti would not be able to take the beating that hatton would give him now. mickyward isn't anyhting world class and still knocked him down a fair few times.
A few times constitutes twice, in three fights.
Boxing is about strength of opposition (not essentially) - you can fight 200 times against bums and win every fight, but if you fight warriors and win, you're the bomb. See: Floyd Mayweather.
You are one of the worst posters I've ever seen.
The fact that Hatton 'would've been beaten' by all the fighters Gatti WAS beaten by does not make Gatti a better fighter than Hatton.
"I didn't claim Micky Ward was better than JLC or Kosta. Don't put words into my mouth."
Did you not?
and Micky Ward three times. Those fights are better than anyone Hatton fought.
Hatton fought JLC and Tszyu...
Gatti fought Mayweather, DLH and Micky Ward three times. Those fights are better than anyone Hatton fought. He also came out the other side fresh and ready to fight anyone else.
Hatton? Magee, Maussa (who?), Urango (who?), old Zoo, old JLC.
The irony is thicker than crude oil...
Wise up, dude.
boxing is about who you have fought, but its also about winning and on that basis i think hatton is better than gatti. gatti is lacking a lot defensively and hatton would eat him up. gatti would not be able to take the beating that hatton would give him now. mickyward isn't anyhting world class and still knocked him down a fair few times.