Is Jermaine Taylor the worst middleweight champion ever!!?

Nope, but I think he'd beat Frank Tate and Micheal Olajide...well they held belts at middleweight.:) There is a number of beltholders Taylor would beat, I agree with that.

I don't know every middleweight champ but I doubt he's the worse. Hopkins beat fighters who moved up in weight. Taylor beat Spinks and Ouma. Hopkins beat Trinidad and Oscar. Taylor's only made 3 defenses. If he was gonna stay at 160 he would still need 10 or more to be near Hopkins or someone like that. Hopkins had shitty defenses. This isn't a Hopkins Taylor debate. If you think Jermaine Taylor is a better middleweight champion than Hopkins fine. I disagree.

So Hugo Corro is the one name we have and that's somebody not a whole lot of people probably knows much about being that all but few of his fights were in Argentina, the other couple in Italy. I havn't seen him fight so I dont know if Taylor could beat him or not. And for f**k sake I dont care about your assesments of anything except is there any modern middleweight champion that Taylor could beat.

I don't know every middleweight champ but I doubt he's the worse. Hopkins beat fighters who moved up in weight. Taylor beat Spinks and Ouma. Hopkins beat Trinidad and Oscar. Taylor's only made 3 defenses. If he was gonna stay at 160 he would still need 10 or more to be near Hopkins or someone like that. Hopkins had shitty defenses.

Hugo Corro was the real champ. Taylor would outbox him. He could beat belt holders like Dewitt, Abraham, Benn, Holmes, Joppy, Eubank etc. (Yes, I said Benn and Eubank)

he is an impressive 40 years old, but Taylor barely gettin two wins (a gift and a win according to many) from him are not a claim to him beating any prime undisputed MW champions fomr the past. I already made a list of those with which he could deal with, and that's very much not la creme of middleweight history. Would you pick Taylor to beat any of the following Hopkins (prime) Toney Nunn Hagler Monzon Tiger ? Would you pick Taylor to beat the following beltholders-contenders from the not-so-distant past: Jones Jr. McCallum Hearns Benn Eubank McClellan ? Nope, but I think he'd beat Frank Tate and Micheal Olajide...well they held belts at middleweight.:)

yeah we was different... but he's still good...and for his age he's great...not many people at 42 fight anymore...and the ones that do arent very good...but bhop still has it...not to the extent of when he was in his prime but he's not fallen off the wagon though...he's not stuck fighting on crappy cards on FNF or WNF...he's still good enough to get the PPV cards...that tells you something... while he may be out of his prime he's still a force in the sport. he is an impressive 40 years old, but Taylor barely gettin two wins (a gift and a win according to many) from him are not a claim to him beating any prime undisputed MW champions fomr the past. I already made a list of those with which he could deal with, and that's very much not la creme of middleweight history. Would you pick Taylor to beat any of the following Hopkins (prime) Toney Nunn Hagler Monzon Tiger ? Would you pick Taylor to beat the following beltholders-contenders from the not-so-distant past: Jones Jr. McCallum Hearns Benn Eubank McClellan ?

yeah we was different... but he's still good...and for his age he's great...not many people at 42 fight anymore...and the ones that do arent very good...but bhop still has it...not to the extent of when he was in his prime but he's not fallen off the wagon though...he's not stuck fighting on crappy cards on FNF or WNF...he's still good enough to get the PPV cards...that tells you something... while he may be out of his prime he's still a force in the sport. He'd fallen off wagon at middleweight. Did you see Anorak's Hopkins Eastman highlight video? or unfortunate enough to see the fight in it's entiriety?

and for all of those saying taylor beat and old hopkins i'd like to say this: if hopkins was old then he should have retired if he couldnt compete with other fighters in their own weight class... not continue on and lose 2 decisions to taylor. hopkins looked very good against tarver and pretty good against winky... so there you go... it would be one thing if he lost 2 to taylor then lost like 2 or 3 more in a row and decided to retire...then i would say he's old... he is old age wise right now but he can still compete and is still pretty damn good for his age...actually he's excellent considering he's 42...not many can fight at this age...let alone at the level bhop does... so dont make excuses... Fine. That was Hopkins at his best that Taylor beat, just as the version of Ali that Leon Spinks beat.

and for all of those saying taylor beat and old hopkins i'd like to say this: if hopkins was old then he should have retired if he couldnt compete with other fighters in their own weight class... not continue on and lose 2 decisions to taylor. hopkins looked very good against tarver and pretty good against winky... so there you go... it would be one thing if he lost 2 to taylor then lost like 2 or 3 more in a row and decided to retire...then i would say he's old... he is old age wise right now but he can still compete and is still pretty damn good for his age...actually he's excellent considering he's 42...not many can fight at this age...let alone at the level bhop does... so dont make excuses... if you have seen Hopkins fighting pre-Joppy, you should know that he was VERY different, so... cut the crap and btw Hopkins never fought again at 160.

But why? I'm still waiting for somebody a name of a middleweight champion since the 50's he could beat. I think that does make him the worst middleweight champion ever. I honestly can't think of a prior Middleweight Champion who I could make a solid case as to why Taylor would beat him. However the Middleweight division itself had been stacked full of talent until the 90's. I think Taylor is just the byproduct of a bad era. I think prior Champions would eat Taylor for breakfast but again, that doesn't make him the "worst". I think he just fails in comparison. If Taylor can beat Pavlik (which I don't think he will) then I think he will have silenced a certain amount of his critics, including myself.

Who was the worse Champion, Adrian Dodson or Jermaine Taylor? I think he means champions, not beltholders

I wouldn't go so far as to call Jermain the "worst" Middleweight Champion in History. However I would say that he is one of the most overrated and flawed fighters in the division in recent memory. But why? I'm still waiting for somebody a name of a middleweight champion since the 50's he could beat. I think that does make him the worst middleweight champion ever.

I wouldn't go so far as to call Jermain the "worst" Middleweight Champion in History. However I would say that he is one of the most overrated and flawed fighters in the division in recent memory.

Dodson was never middleweight champion.

Give Taylor some credit, some of the middleweights you mentioned are not only the greatest middleweights but the greatest fighters of all time. He is still making his legacy and has a long way to go. One thing I can say is I don't see him being very crafty in the ring, he won't win any chess matches. They're just a compilation of middleweight champions since the 1950's.

So is that the only name we have of former middleweight champions Taylor could beat? Dodson?

Or least in since say the 50's. Before him just off hand you had Bernard Hopkins James Toney Michael Nunn Thomas Hearns Marvin Hagler Vito Antifermo Carlos Monzon Dick Tiger Gene Fullmer Ray Robinson Jake Lamotta And there were plenty of other great middleweights out there who might not have been considered as champion, especially in the 80's, 50's, 60's, even the early 90's. Who was the worse Champion, Adrian Dodson or Jermaine Taylor?

Naaaw, Taylor ain't the worst, he's just on par wit all the other recent MW champs. I do think he's starting to get lazy though, no "eye of the tiger" anymore. Taylor is like alot of the other boxers who've been around for a minute, he doesn't try for the KO & is content to let fights go the distance now. I'll say that if Taylor keeps making for boring decisions like he's doing, he'll be the most easily forgotten MW champ in history. Can u Dig Dat?!?!:boxing:

Give Taylor some credit, some of the middleweights you mentioned are not only the greatest middleweights but the greatest fighters of all time. He is still making his legacy and has a long way to go. One thing I can say is I don't see him being very crafty in the ring, he won't win any chess matches.