What does Collazo have that PBF doesn't really

To Easy-E Guys replied yet. De La Hoya, Judah and 2nd Castillo fights were close. And 1st Castillo fight was the Floyd's loss, IMO. But we should also remember that judges are jokes and if Corley would be a star and Mayweather would be a challenger, it was easy a DeMarcus victory. Personally, I don't think Corley won but sane, unbiased and boxinginitiated human couldn't save Taylor's zero or make Daniel a Penalosa's victor. Examples are unlimited.

ya floyd went up & found a slew of tailor made fighters he didnt take no risks ,fuck off forecast , its dark & cloudy, im out. even so collazo wouldn't make it even close to what pbf did. Pbf was fighting mostly contenders was refused by cotto, Hatton, Mosley, Kosta, and V. Harris. Marg is the only person Floyd didn't want to fight that he should have, but if he was worried or not he came up in weight chasing Oscar not solid fighters that tower him no one knows!!!

balls is what he has that floyd doesnt i guess your right... Pbf only went up 5 weight classes so when Collazo moves up from 147 to 174 and defeats a top contender he will solidify your claim, and show his balls to the world not just you personally

Ricky is gonna give it everything hes got thats for sure but I can see him gettin busted up down the middle by Floyds precision.

Then PBF won a unanimous decision over JLC. It should never be discussed again. And Chavez-Whitaker was really a draw. And Roy Jones lost in Seoul. my point exactly now shut the fuck up all of you lol!!

That was how the judges scored it. I had it 8-4. And nearly every objective observer had PBF winning it clearly. Chavez-Whitaker was scored a draw. Was it a close fight? problem with that is that your score isnt worth shit and neither is every other "objective" observers. only the judges score counts so squeelpiggy is right it was a very close fight.

Like what close bouts? The only close fight in his career was the first Castillo fight, and I thought Floyd won that by 2 points. The fight with De La Hoya was extremely close. It was one round on one card away from a draw.

Just cuz Floyd won a close fight doesn't mean Castillo was robbed. Castillo didn't without a doubt.

Of course, but there were some close bouts in Floyd's career and if those judges were not his buddies, he could understand, that the result could be taken from his hands. We all know that an average judge has no problem to steal a victory from a right person. And a need rises to prevent it, he should grow his activity level. But he never did. I mean exactly this. Like what close bouts? The only close fight in his career was the first Castillo fight, and I thought Floyd won that by 2 points.

activity and stance i will give you that but heart compared to collazo could be equal or higher it hasn't been test cause he been able to make fights go his way. If Mayweather ever did get dominated in a fight it would be interesting to see how he would act, probably would just stay away and complain about the judgesOf course, but there were some close bouts in Floyd's career and if those judges were not his buddies, he could understand, that the result could be taken from his hands. We all know that an average judge has no problem to steal a victory from a right person. And a need rises to prevent it, he should grow his activity level. But he never did. I mean exactly this.

Great thread. I like the 1st post and not only it. But if to answer, Floyd doesn't have heart, activity and stance of Luis. activity and stance i will give you that but heart compared to collazo could be equal or higher it hasn't been test cause he been able to make fights go his way. If Mayweather ever did get dominated in a fight it would be interesting to see how he would act, probably would just stay away and complain about the judges

Great thread. I like the 1st post and not only it. But if to answer, Floyd doesn't have heart, activity and stance of Luis.

Did you just compare Witter's 140 belt to Baldomir's belt?? Not all belts are created equal. Perhaps Baldomir's belt was a bad example. How about Judah's IBF belt? Or Gatti's WBC effort?

The only thing that Collazo has over Floyd: Tattoos I swear when Collazo fights more often then not I find myself hypnotised by the face on his back. I can't look away, it is just freaking looking. I do think it is cool that the guy stuck with a theme for his tats, most people don't.

Unless his opinion doesn't concur with yours right?

I agreed with your post up to her. Get serious, Maussa fucking sucks. So does Baldomir but he still beat the champ to get his belts. Maussa knocked Harris out, making him a legit titleholder. Hatton beat the man at 140 and KOd Maussa on his way towards unifying the division.

It was the same for "The World Awaits". And people didn't get tired of that either. In fact, they created threads about that fight two months after the fight was over. Somehow, love him or hate him, Mayweather has put himself in the situation of being far and away the most talked-about and most watched fighter of 2007. So true and that is what sells tickets, like they say "there is no such thing as bad publicity." I hope that this fight isn't a massacare, I think pbf needs the sort of challenge that will have him truly bring out his a-game. Ali had frazier and leonard had duran, sometimes you don't get as much credit as you deserve because people don't see you pushed to your limit, since he usually outclasses his opponents.

fuckin ridiculous argument. "boxer X struggled against boxer Y who isn't as good as boxer Z so how the hell will X beat Z?" i wonder if pbf fans would rather floyd just stayed retired because its obvious that no-one is worthy of fighting him. i bet thats what braveheart31's been telling people. anyway, these threads are getting way too tiresome... the fights 5 months away and everyone on this site is going to be sick of it before it even happens. these threads are the reason for the forum.... 5 months til your beloved hatton is soundly defeated no judges will save him this time

Saw Hatton on Uk Tv today, he looks like he's excited about the fight, he doesnt look in good shape though, i hope he knows mayweather is likely to be training for this fight as we speak. I find this fight intriguing, hatton seems confident, where as before he would stutter and say this and that, now he seems ready to fight. But mayweather is one of the best trash talkers in boxing, his line to hatton was a classic. "Does he really wanna step in the ring with the best fighter of his era and embarass himself?" On the other hand billy Graham says hatton has a gameplan which doesnt just involve swarming, which is good if you are a hatton fan, because i think ricky will need a plan b that night. Gonna be a great fight, ive got my exact pick but i wont share it.

I never knew that the commentators were the best authority on the match they are commentating on. I prefer to watch the fight and draw my own conclusions than to fast-forward to see Harold Lederman's card. Regardless, Hatton knocked out a guy who had never hit the deck before with a body shot. The standard of Castillo's fight that night was not the impresive part, it was the nature of the win that was impressive. As well you know. It's funny because Witter's belt is constantly brought up by Hatton's detractors as "proof" that Hatton is ducking Witter. The belts carry a meaning. Without the belts it isn't a title fight. Do you think that Mayweather would have fought Baldomir if there wasn't a couple of straps on the line? The belts only seem to carry a meaning if you're using them to make a point. Other than that they are meaningless - if only to make another point. Floyd Mayweather has been playing collect-the-world-titles for years now and fair play to him. But I've heard his fight against Henry Bruseles justified on the basis of it being a title eliminator. You can't have it both ways. When has Hatton done that? He hasn't faced a single mandatory yet, and most recently he vacated his IBF belt to take on the tougher challenger. What would have been a more meaningful fight, Hatton vs Castillo or Hatton vs Lovemore N'Dou? Where was your source for this information? frankwarren.tv? Warren is well documented as the kind of promoter who "offers" fights all the time. Warren is doing wonders for Joe Calzaghe eh? Besides which Maussa was a legit titleholder. He beat Harris fair and square and Ricky sparked him on his way to becoming the first British Fighter of the Year in the Ring magazine. Hatton was set to unify at 140 before Lazcano pulled out of his bout, then he went on a slightly dodgy path in taking on Collazo. But he beat the number two rated fighter at 140 lbs and now he's taking on the number one rated pound for pound fighter in the world. I'm not sure how you can question his recent path, it seems fairly positive. I agreed with your post up to her. Get serious, Maussa fucking sucks.