Graham :weight not a problem

Do you promise? Sure do, brother.

18y ago

Sorry mate, trying to get through to you is too painful so we're done. Cletus, You are smarter than everyone else, so please tell us: What does it matter what punch you are PLANNING on throwing next when you are getting hit with a HARD shot? Hatton throws wide punches. Mayweather throws straight shots. Hatton INTENDS to throw a triple hook. Floyd shoots that straight right hand right down the middle. WHO GETS HIT? You can call people as many childish names as you wish. The reality, as I've said before, is that they are going to FIGHT. On December 9th, one of us is going to wake up feeling stupid. I'm patient.

18y ago

The fact that you think that Hatton can throw three HOOKS faster than Floyd can throw ONE straight right hand tells me all that I need to know. Thanks much for your perspective.. That isn't what I'm saying at all. Have you even read what I've typed or are you just that stupid?

18y ago

Think about what YOU are saying. YOU are saying that Hatton can get two or three HOOKS off faster than PBF can shoot a straight right hand. Think about that. Hatton can throw a triple left hook in approx. 1 second. If Floyd let's his right go after the 1st one then the 2nd one will land as Floyd's guard won't be there. That's what I'm saying. Floyd's not going to know if Hatton's throwing a single, double or triple hook so he can't be certain on when it's safe to release his right, don't you agree?

18y ago

Cletus, Please point to the statement in my post that alludes to anything that can be interpreted as 'mythical powers". You alluded that Floyd could let his right go and bring it back to guard in the fraction of a second between Hatton's double or triple hooks and read whether he'll switch up or downstairs on top of that. Come on, man. Or you were just talking about Floyd getting off 1st?

18y ago

Mayweather is drooling at the thought of hatton trying to jab from range. Isn't Floyd's right hand MUCH faster and more accurate than Ricky's multiple hooks? I mean, I saw PBF hitting Zab Judah and Oscar (two fast fighters) pretty consistently with that right hand. Oscar has one of the best LH's in the sport. It was a non-factor in their fight. What am I missing? Floyd isn't Fernando Vargas. El Feroz gets hit with ANY LH that is thrown. It would seem to me that Hatton would be the one to become reluctant to throw after eating some laser counter rights. No, no, no and no. The way Floyd's D is set leaves a lovely little hole for that shot. If Floyd let's his right go in the middle of one of those combos then he's eating leather without a doubt. Oscar didn't double or triple up on the hooks. You guys make me laugh. You've actually convinced yourselves that Floyd has mythical powers. Good luck with that.

18y ago

His problem ... will be getting inside without getting his face butchered! Sounds like my wedding night...

18y ago

OptimusWolf

Great thread guys - maybe I was wrong about Hatton v Collazo. I know that when I saw him I thought he looked sluggish, but that may have been due to his binging and not Kayes attempts to add bulk. I actually agree somewhat with DLT that Collazo and co are bigger men than Hatton and he was always going to struggle to push them around. I don't think he will have that problem with Floyd, but who knows, perhaps Floyd is stronger, but he never appeared particularly strong at LW, never mind WW. His problem with Floyd will be getting inside without getting his face butchered!

18y ago

i didnt say that but it seems more likely hatton scores more on the inside. yeah agree about the jab/uppercut after he wears mayweather down. Yeah, without doubt the inside is where he should be. I guess I'm just saying he doesn't need to fly straight at him every time and let Floyd start timing him on his way in. He does have the option to mix it up by working briefly from the outside before he comes in.

18y ago

Who said he would outbox Floyd?

18y ago

on the outside!!! i dont see it. hatton in a small ring and a complying reff will win it with body shots and clutching on the inside imo. He could have some success from the outside but working from there shoudn't be a significant part of his game plan. Hatton has some good shot improvisation and I think he'll get a fair bit of success with his jab/uppercut hybrid from range. Uncertainty over whether he's going to double or triple up on the left hook should also keep Floyd a bit shy of using his counter right.

18y ago

So you think that Hatton, a world class boxer wouldn't win a single round boxing on the outside? With Mayweather slightly worn down and Hatton working the jab a bit, he is capable of winning a round or two even against Mayweather - although of course inside fighting is his main form of attack.

18y ago

DIOS, i see your point regarding Mayweather's strength. You don't fight at 147 a few times, and then at 154 and still only have the strength of a lightweight. Mayweather will be strong - but i believe Hatton will be strong too. Like all world class boxers you tend to have to get sparring partners the next weight division or two up from him. Steve Forbes sparred with Hatton for the Castillo fight and he commented that Hatton was a better boxer than people give him credit for and he was surprised by his intelligence and speed. What many percieve as reckless fighting from Hatton the large part of it is methodical, planned and calculated. If he is losing the fight with his inside fighting he is capable of fighting on the outside and utilizing the jab. I agree his skills are not on the level of Mayweather but he will not be blown away and he might even outbox Mayweather for a round or two on the outside.

18y ago

Squeal, You seem an honest chap. And you seem so certain of Ricky's abilities. Would you like to place a wager on the fight? If Hatton wins, I fly you and your missus to NYC and put you up at a nice hotel for a weekend. If Mayweather wins, you fly my girl and I to London for a lovely weekend at the Sanderson. What do you think? The missus and I live in Toronto... But seriously no, I won't be betting anything on this fight. I have a tendency of losing bets.

18y ago

WHAT IF Hatton finds that Mayweather (by virtue of the experience fighting and sparring MUCH bigger men for two years now) can NOT be pushed around? WHAT IF Hatton finds that Mayweather is as strong or stronger than he is? WHAT IF Hatton finds that the Mayweather/Toney old-school style of inside fighting is more effective than his own brawling, swarming style? WHAT IF Hatton overwhelms Floyd's counters and is as fast on his feet as Mayweather? WHAT IF Floyd gets trapped often and early against the ropes and absorbs some punishment to the arms and body? WHAT IF Floyd makes an adjustment to deal with Hatton's tactics only to find that Hatton makes an adjustment to deal with Floyd's new game? This is why we watch boxing instead of just talking about it.

18y ago

http://www.cnpprofessional.co.uk/images/kerrykayes.jpg He doesn't look like much but he's done alright by Ricky so far.

18y ago

This is the link to the thread: http://www.rickyhitmanhatton.com/forum/index.php?topic=6371.0 It's a 30 page thread and alot of information to go through if you're interested in that stuff.

18y ago

DLT

All of you guys are blind and talking stupid. There was nothing wrong at all with Hatton in that Collazo fight. Go back and rewatch it. He looked the same exact way that he did at 140, if not better. The differnce is that the WW's are huge and better then all of Hatton's opponents. It had nothing to do with them messing up. They didnt. He came in at the weight that most WW's come in at. I bet anything that if he fought Collazo again then the same exact thing would happened. You guys are stupid if you think he's going to walk through WW's. Thats what Grahm is trying to tell you. It doesnt matter. He's style is not made for that divison because he isnt strong enough and he's not a pure enough boxer to do something else at that weight.

18y ago