Am I the only one sick of these 4 way fights between EM, MAB, Pac, & JMM? Im sick of these guys fighting eachother over & over again and then getting so much credit for it. Half these guys are old and there fights are overrated. Everyone loves JMM and I think he's the most overrated fighter in the game. Trust me, Im not a hater. Before these guys really started fighting eachother I thought JMM was the best but to me Ive been really dissapointed in the same fights he gets a ton of credit in.
In the Pac-JMM fight I came away dissapointed in both guys. Pac looked so one demisonal in just throwing that straight left all fight. He also dropped a guy 3 times in the 1st round and not only did he not finish him, he nearly lost the fight. JMM is supposed to be this beautiful technician but he let Pac hit him with that one punch the whole fight. He also got dropped 3 times in the 1st round. Now he fought back very well but he still let Pac hit him with that straight left the whole fight. No way a so called supreme techniqal guy is supposed to let that happened.
Then I remember that one card where both JMM & his brother fought on it. JMM fought another lefty just like Pac but he didnt have that big of a punch. After that fight I rememeber reading a ton of articles about how good JMM was. I was like, were they watching the same fight as me? Again, this guy hit JMM a hundred times with that straight left, busted his nose up, and almost looked like he was going to drop him a few times. If that was Pac then he wouldve been dead.
Then JMM & MAB fight and everyone was talking about how great the fight was but I didnt see it. Sure it was a close fight but neither guy fought at the level you would expect them to. They didnt look like the super elite fighters. They didnt look like top P4P guys.
Then you have EM fight a guy like Chaves who fights with one arm for like the last 9 rounds and not only almost beats him but EM never even knew it. How could a so called super smart legend not realize that a guy has only one arm the whole fight? This wasnt one of those fake injuries or half way injuries either. He really only punched with one arm the rest of the fight and EM never even knew and he got hit a ton with it. I still think Chaves wouldve won if it wasnt for that injury. How come he fights these other guys again but not Chaves?
Then EM beats Pac fairly easily. After that EM gets dominated by Raheem. The same Raheem who lost to Freitas and looked like crap. EM didnt come close to winning one round against a guy like Raheem but then Pac KO's him in the rematch and everyone goes crazy? How can you go crazy when EM just lost every round to an average fighter? He was clearly done. Then the public has the nerve to support a 3rd fight? Pac comes in looking like a Jr. WW and stops EM again and he gets even more credit? I dont get it.
Now Pac & MAB are having a rematch and everyone cant wait? I cant stand watching these fights anymore. Why dont they switch up and fight someone like Diaz, Campbell, Casamayor, Guzman, Soto, Valero, or something like that? These guys arent even putting up big PPV numbers. Whats so special about these fights? There good guys but not as great as people make them out to be. As long as they fight eachother then they will stay looking like this and getting too much credit for it. Then when they fight someone different they pick other average guys like Juarez who never goes all out, Barrios who's exciting but is just good enough to lose to the top guys, and shot Larios. These guys fight eachother and people are fooled into thinking they are taking super tough fights. There not. Fight those other guys and they'll get my respect. Then you can really judge how great they are. Dont get me wrong, EM & MAB were really good but there clearly way past there primes, espically EM. JMM spent way too much passing up fights with the top guys and seems to have either peaked early or didnt get better due to him fighting the lesser guys too much. Pac is good but I think he is benefiting over beating these big names who are overrated right now. Id much rather see what he can do with those other names on that list who are young or very hungery.
i agree, Guzman and Soto deserve their shots. But lets put this in perspective. Barrera after getting ran out San Antonio by PAC was on an impressive winning streak beating a highly regarded former olympian in dominating fashion. MAB's recent loss wasn't against a slouch, he lost to a world-class fighter in JMM.
JMM is awesome, he looked great against Barrera. And as far as PAC is concerned, I just hope he just gets his head out of his @ss, after he allowed politicians to stick it up his @ss and took his $$.
Anyway, the way the thread starter made these three future HOF fighters sound as if they're washed up, hardly, they continue to put up impressive wins. If these three start to lose against guys we normally see on ESPN2's FNF, then its time to pull the plug on 'em. Till that time happens, bring on PAC - mab 2, bring on PAC - jmm 2, hell, if EM wins his 4th world title, I would love for PAC to move up and fight EM at 135lbs. Dare I say PAC - em 4.
gotta love your username.... :lol1:
I think marquez is the only one that still deserves to be fighting at Pac's level. He did destroy the other guys and Barrera is coming off a loss to Marquez so i don't understand why they made that one. These fights are entertaining though and I'd rather watch them than a lot of other fighters, plus Soto and Guzman are supposed to go at it and one of the two will be set back. I also think Morales is just a non factor, i hope he loses to david diaz for his own good/
Yeah, that shit is making me mad too. I dont want to see Soto vs Guzman. Its like killing one of them off unfairly. Id much rather see them both get there shot. Like Guzman-Pac and Soto vs Marquez
In addition, in lue of the slaugther and ring deaths in Thailand, including the 4th round manslaughter of Cisneros at the hand of many mismatches being staged in Thailand between two professional fighters with a high enough degree of separation that lifes are at danger, imagine how a non pro Joe would fair.
You're not alone. I'm sick of seeing all four ranked in the pound for pound top ten. But I'm prejudiced against little men. Grown men don't weigh less than 130 lbs, so I can't take seriously watching little men fight.
They definitely get paid like grown men and definitely can get more pussy than you big boy. Fighters who fight at 118-130 don't walk around normally at that weight. A lot of em kill themselves just to make weight.That's what you call conditioning. They are most dangerous when they're ready to go off the chain. You have a
lack of understanding of what it takes to get to the top of a professional sport. It may look like just two men pawing cluelesly at each other to you, but boxing is one of the hardest sports to get coordinated at. A lot of pros don't even have it down. It aint as easy as it looks. Those little Pound for lbers are freaks of nature. One in a whole, whole lot of dudes who think they bad trying to box their way to somewhere with most not cutting it. So if your wondering if your body built 6 foot 200lb frame can whoop on a guy who's 5'4" 115lber who has been working his body to throw accurate hard punches since they were 8. I would put my money on the little guy to tear you apart. You are giving me the impression that you don't watch em cuz you think you can kick their ass, maybe. I just gotta respect any man that can get to a high level in a sport that requires many things that us mere mortals can only hate on.
i think your just a racist who doesnt like mexican fighters. these mexicans have been fighting each other and pcaquiao because they are exciting fighters and these are the fights the fans want to see because they are true warriors. real boxing fans dont want to see cowards and businessman in the ring.
You are right, everyone on this forum is racist, and Mayweather Jr. is the ultimate racist because he wore the Mexican colors against De La Hoya. Thanks for your input.
Well! DLT this division always sets up dumb fights. Like someone already said its crowd pleasing BUT FUK THAT SHIT! There other good boxers who need to fight big names in the sport. Joan Guzman still hasnt fought a big name I wana see Joan Guzman fight Pacman. I know Guzman would win a easy U.D
stick to watching your japanese anime kid. :p
I'm more sick of the PPVs than I am of the fights.
I would enjoy seeing Pac vs MAB on HBO. Or any other fights where, like someone else said, he needs to finish up his business.
I think marquez is the only one that still deserves to be fighting at Pac's level. He did destroy the other guys and Barrera is coming off a loss to Marquez so i don't understand why they made that one. These fights are entertaining though and I'd rather watch them than a lot of other fighters, plus Soto and Guzman are supposed to go at it and one of the two will be set back. I also think Morales is just a non factor, i hope he loses to david diaz for his own good/
You're not alone. I'm sick of seeing all four ranked in the pound for pound top ten. But I'm prejudiced against little men. Grown men don't weigh less than 130 lbs, so I can't take seriously watching little men fight.
Boxing is milking these guys to the bone. But how could you not approve of the WBO ranked #1 PAC and #2 MAB fighting? Sure Pac wants Joan Guzman, but I know for sure MAB vs PAC II will make tons more money. And unfortunately that's just the way today's cookie crumbles. But IMHO I dont think Guzman wants to fight or can handle Pacman. And It wont go to a UD. Guzman gets KTFO.
Well! DLT this division always sets up dumb fights. Like someone already said its crowd pleasing BUT FUK THAT SHIT! There other good boxers who need to fight big names in the sport. Joan Guzman still hasnt fought a big name I wana see Joan Guzman fight Pacman. I know Guzman would win a easy U.D
I can't wait! I hear what your saying, but I think most would agree, although they are going around in circle's with each other.... they are still very exciting fights.
wtf chaves said he had injured since round 2 but it was since round 9 that he really did because thats when he was just punching with one arm, and that helped him because he halways had his right hand up and EM is a natural counterpuncher who looks for openings.....look how EM did the first rounds....when Chavez was OK, Erik Morales was fucking owning him....this DLT guy is getting worse by the second....
there are propably a lot of young guns , that would give these guys fits.. but they are legends. and deserve the attention they are getting they make it exciting...
naw im with you tho man..i wanna see pacquiao finally fight for one of the world title belts..i mean wth is barerra gonna do for you at this point?everyone is just gonna knock him n say he beat him cuz barrera was old..jmm im ok with since they got a draw plus he got a belt..but i agree with you
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