All right, we all know Barrera technically beat Morales twice, but two of the fights were damn close (the two Barrera should have won). Barrera won the first fight by 1 point on my card (thanks to the bullshit knockdown), Morales won the 2nd fight clearly on my card (116-112), and Barrera pulled out the third fight (115-113 on my card).
Looking beyond those fights, Barrera has lost 4 other fights, twice to Junior Jones, once to Pacquiao, and once to Marquez.
Morales KO'd Jones quite easily, barely outpointed Pacquiao once, got stopped by him twice, and never fought Marquez, so JMM is irrelevant here.
Morales has lost 3 other fights outside of the Barrera fights, two to Pacquiao and one to Raheem, but Raheem never fought Barrera, so he is irrelevant here.
Morales is fighting David Diaz to try and become a 4-weight division champion in August while Barrera is trying to avenge his loss to Pacquiao in November. Morales has a much better chance in my opinion of upending Diaz than Barrera has of beating Pacquiao.
So assuming Morales wins and meets his goal of 4 weight classes while Barrera gets annihilated by Pacquiao, would you agree Morales has the better resume? Obviously we'll look at this question again if the results differ from this scenario. If both win their upcoming fights, I say Barrera has the better resume. If both lose, it's close although I think I personally favor Morales' body of work. If Barrera wins and Morales loses, obviously Barrera has the better resume. If Morales wins and Barrera loses, I give it to Morales. What do you guys think? Let's hear it.
marco antonio barrera.
even if he loses to pacman i still think he has the better legacy than morales. if im honest, i think they have more or less the same resume when it comes to the boxers they have faced, the only thing that seperates them for me is there trilogy, with barrera winning that 2-1, i put him slightly ahead of morales. and if im honest i think barrera got unlucky in his second fight with junior jones, a fight he could have won, and his fight with marquez was close and i had the same scorecard as harold lederman, i had barrera winning by 1 point. but regardless of this, there is no shame in barrera losing to jones, marquez, pacman or morales, they are all top fighters and it just shows that barrera has ducked absolutely no one in the divisions he has been in, and that says a lot about barrera as a fighter, the same goes for morales too.
if barrera beats pacman then he'll have the better legacy and if he loses then they'll be even. remember who got the better out of these 2 in their trilogy, so you cant say morales
so the guy who beat hopkins in his debut is even with him????? thats nonesense......
if barrera beats pacman then he'll have the better legacy and if he loses then they'll be even. remember who got the better out of these 2 in their trilogy, so you cant say morales
Damn look at that, 3 even and 12 for each ha.
I voted even. Barrera's losses to Jones don't look good, especially when compared to Morales' destruction of his. Also, MAB was outclassed by Pac, and Erik at least beat him once. However, Erik's loss against Raheem hurts him greatly, Zahir is just a mediocre fighter. If someone put a gun to my head I'd lean towards MAB because he's done something Morales never has, and that's come back from so-so performances to give great ones. After the 2 losses to Junior Jones he came back and gave us the great trilogy with Morales. After he lost to Pac everyone said he was done, and then he convingly beat Morales after going up in weight. After a very close fight with Rocky Juarez he outclassed him in the rematch. MAB has the slightly better legacy IMO because of this, but it's amazingly close, and that's why I voted even.
I thought Morales won the last MAB fight.
The Raheem fight wasnt really Morales...it didnt even look like him.
JJ beat him MAB twice and Morales ate him up in 4.
I thought Morales started @ a younger age but boxrec says otherwsie.
If MAB beats PAC hes got the better legacy. MAB did end Hameds career...Morales never did that to anyone that big. Call it timing or not.
IMHO, MAB and EM are anomallys. They both got shot fighting each other so much.
I voted for Morales btw.
if both win there next bouts barrera should just edge it in my opinion.
2 wins over morrales
winning and dropping one to pacquio
the only person to beat the seemingly invincible prince naseem
beating juarez by a very close decision (that close the judges called it a draw until they realised a cock up in the adding of cards) and then out classing him in the rematch
beating ayala by stoppage morrales could only manage a decision
been only the 2nd man to beat johnny tapia (the first been paulie ayala)
hes 2 loses to junior jones could harm the legacy considering morrales beat him with ease
i picked morales due to his amazing war with pac. both fighters have been in some wars though, so its really a matter of opinion, and i really like MAB, but i like morales jus a little bit more... both of them have great legacies.
I remember on the round by round. Everyone was talking how Williams won the first 6 and you had given Margarito like 3 out of the first 6 rounds! LOL!
What the hell does that fight have to do with this thread? Anyways quit your crying, you've been established as a Margarito hater so really nothing you can type will mean anything on that subject.
Oh this just in.........I'm arguing with the guy who thinks Floyd did a better job against Sosa, Corley and Judah than Cotto did.......WHO KNOCKED THEM OUT.
You're a jackass, please quit posting.
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No, No I didn't have Tony winning.
I had a problem with the official scoring because there's no way Tony won less than 5 rounds in that fight. Quit making shit up.
I remember on the round by round. Everyone was talking how Williams won the first 6 and you had given Margarito like 3 out of the first 6 rounds! LOL!
wow, remind me to never ask your opinion on who won a fight. you're the guy who thought Margarito beat Williams too LOL!
No, No I didn't have Tony winning.
I had a problem with the official scoring because there's no way Tony won less than 5 rounds in that fight. Quit making shit up.
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wow, remind me to never ask your opinion on who won a fight. you're the guy who thought Margarito beat Williams too LOL!
:ugh:
seriously, i think Barrera barely won the first, Erik got the second, and Barrera clearly won the third fight...
too bad the judges say otherwise...
lol "Edged" the third? He totally outclassed Morales. I had him winning 8 rounds to 4 and Morales had absolutely no answer for the jab.
I think the second fight was close, but M.A.B. won all three fights.
shame on you if you had him winning the 2 and he dint outclass morales in the thrid, morales was just head hunting the first 5 rounds......hell the third fight cant be scored other way than 115-113 for barrera imo, all rounds are pretty clear...
lol "Edged" the third? He totally outclassed Morales. I had him winning 8 rounds to 4 and Morales had absolutely no answer for the jab.
I think the second fight was close, but M.A.B. won all three fights.
wow, remind me to never ask your opinion on who won a fight. you're the guy who thought Margarito beat Williams too LOL!
this trilogy is speciall because all 3 fights are great, other trilogies usually have one stinker.....
anyway putting their trilogy aside, morales has the stronger resume...barrera just has the more recognizable name of prince naseem...............