Both Mosley & Zab have speed (Zab might be a little faster), power, & championship experience.
If Cotto dismantled Zab, then what can Mosley do differently?
Better chin perhaps?
like others have pointed out, @ 35 mosley is a smarter, willed, determined fighter that doesn't have the self doubt that afflicts judah.
hes not a complainer, simply put - mosleys a man with a great boxing game.
i think mosley is a little more skilled than zab, and is mentally stronger, as well as physically stronger. mosley also bring alot of experience against top opposition and he knows how to win fights. mosley better come in with his A+++++ game, and have a perfect game plan, cuz cotto is a pitbull.
Smarter fighter, focused, stronger, been in there with bigger guys, never been ko'd, great chin etc. Judging by his last fight against Collazo, I think he has enough to stop Cotto.
mosley is a finisher when he has his opponent hurt. that is very important in this fight between cotto and mosley. zab had his chance a couple of times and wasn't really that close to getting cotto out of there, he just stunned him. mosley would at least send his man down to the canvas.
one time zab had cotto hurt he took a shot a little below the belt (which was still on the cup) and he flailed around on the ground like a fish out of water complaining and gave cotto more than enough time to recoup. even if he took some time to get it together, he wasted more time rolling on the floor acting.
cotto can ko mosley, i don't think he will but it can happen, and you would be dumb to think that mosley couldn't ko cotto, because mosley has enough pop in his punch to hurt or stun cotto and the skill set and the killer instinct to get busy to put him down. will that happen, who knows, but i know one thing for both guys, they have the ability to ko each other.
neither one against each other is a blowout by any means, these two are top quality professionals, respect that about both men............
ZAB=OVERRATED and Mosley is faster IMO.....Prime Mosley is 10 times the fighter Zab is......
asshole...shane mosley has NEVER been as fast as zab judah, and judah hits harder...what mosley does have is better stamina and he's smarter
One thing. Mosely is more MENTALLY STABLE then Judah.
mosly is menatlly stronger than zab judah, but not mentally stronger than miguel cotto. i know cotto can come back from being hurt and knock the other guy out. i'm not sure if shane can at this stage of his life. if shane gets cotto hurt, he won't let him hang around like judah would, he'll try to end things with a flurry. even an old mosley is a very dangerous fight for miguelito
Haha yeah, it's ok to predict winners and shit, but I hate their arrogant attitude that they know everything.
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's all in the presenation, right? If someone was to pick Klitschko to win a fight because of his powerful jab- and the Klitschko just did not jab and lost hard- you can understand that the fighter just didn't come out like the person thought. Sometimes they just use irrelevant logic and unsupported facts to show why they are right, though, and do it in a way that makes them look like they think they're experts. That irks people.
Yeah...that show has a pretty poor track record on picking the correct winner of fights. Hey, at least they try...
Haha yeah, it's ok to predict winners and shit, but I hate their arrogant attitude that they know everything.
You guys also said Zab would beat Cotto and Margarito would beat Williams. You said that would leave the 4 best welters out there: Floyd, Shane, Tony, and Zab. Now that Cotto DESTROYED Zab, how do y'all look? If he beats Shane, then fuck, that means he's #2 WW and you dudes barely considered him top 5. Your prediction for this fight means shit.
Yeah...that show has a pretty poor track record on picking the correct winner of fights. Hey, at least they try...
Could see Cotto getting stopped late, but I'd really lean more toward a Mosley UD, around 116-112.
You guys also said Zab would beat Cotto and Margarito would beat Williams. You said that would leave the 4 best welters out there: Floyd, Shane, Tony, and Zab. Now that Cotto DESTROYED Zab, how do y'all look? If he beats Shane, then fuck, that means he's #2 WW and you dudes barely considered him top 5. Your prediction for this fight means shit.
Mosley has shown power at welterweight. Diaz was a solid win. I agree that he was more explosive at lower weights but....don't doubt he can still pop at welterweight.
Adrian Stone KO 3
Shannan Taylor TKO 6
Antonio Diaz TKO 6
Willy Wise TKO 3
Wifredo Rivera KO 10
No- these aren't top tier fighters and Shane was younger..but they do demonstrate he can knock out someone at welterweight- as he has done so to all the men above at 147. Yes, he was younger but like I said...I feel power does to erode with age as much as speed, movement and endurance does. Look at Moorer-Foreman. Yes, they were bigger men but my point stands. Despite what is said here I favor Shane with pop.
Who did Shane ever KO that weighed that much? Vargas? He doesn't count anymore. He USED to have one-punch KO power like 10 fuckin years ago. The biggest reason why Shane has seemingly lost that power is because HE MOVED UP IN WEIGHT. He brutalized guys at 130. 147 is an entirely different ballgame.
And I have read about Shane benching this and squatting that. What does it matter? Oscar, Winky, Vernon, all were able to bully him. Shit, even Vargas looked good against him in their first fight. How much you bench or how "strong" you are means shit inside a boxing ring. Look at K9's body and his record. Chin, power, speed, determination, heart, defense, etc - none of them have any relation to how much fuckin weight you can lift. When I said Cotto was stronger I meant he punches harder. I am fully aware he is not a one-punch KO artist like Shane USED to be. However, his body attack is absolutely devastating. Everyone Miguel Cotto has fought leaves the fight with their face completely fucked up. He is not considered one of the P4P hardest hitters for no reason. Shane has not been considered one of those since he moved to 147.
Alright, just try to keep in mind that the jury should still be somewhat out on some of this stuff regarding Miguel.
I know you're enthusiastic - but Cotto has not proven himself to be one of the hardest hitters in the game. That's ridiculous.
Surely, that would have been more clearly demonstrated by now..
I appreciate that he busted up guys like Gianluca(SP) Branco, and Carlos Quintana, and even Zab Judah.. But that's not saying much, is it?
The hardest hitters can take guys heads off. This is still Boxing.
Cotto hits the same sensitive spots on guys 200 times to get the results it takes guys like R. Marquez, Vasquez, Miranda, Lacy, Pavlik, Valero, and Pacquiao a small handful - if not one individual shot.
Mosley proved in the Forrest I fight more than anything that he has heart and a great chin. Forrest headbutted the hell out of him. I don't know if I've seen a worse headbutt in any fight ever. Forrest should've been able to get Mosley out of there. Had that headbutt not landed (not saying it was intentional), I think Mosley would've won a forgettable fight, no rematch, and would've kept undefeated for a while at least. Easy to say "if this, then this" I know, and no way to really know. Point is, Mosley could've folded, could've probably even had the fight stopped due to the headbutt. No, he fought back and survived the distance. Then he went immediately in for a rematch, no tune-ups. I thought he won the rematch, though it was close, but whatever. He clearly lost both Winky fights, but even after the first loss, again, showed heart by going right back in against Wright. It wasn't smart, but it was heart. There's no questioning Mosley's heart, imo.
That was Mosley against Wright and Forrest. Cotto hasn't had to come back against people of that level. He had to dig deep against Corley and Torres. Mosley has never been in trouble with guys on that level. So there is that to consider. Sure, Cotto could come back against Torres, Corley, but could he if he had an all-time great beating him down? Maybe he could, but he hasn't been tested like that yet.
I'd favor Mosley b/c of his style and experience, but wouldn't be surprised if the younger, more hungry Cotto beat him. I think Mosley would've dominated Trinidad. There's often comparisons made to Cotto and Trinidad of course, but I think Cotto has a significantly better shot against Mosley. That's not to say Cotto is necessarily a better fighter than Trinidad, just his style is better to face Mosley, imo.
I'm favoring Mosley, but I'm still calling it a pick'em fight. I don't think Mosley will lose by KO/TKO, too good of a chin, which says a lot b/c Cotto can hit damn hard. I think DLH hits at least as hard, Vargas likely hits harder. Mosley isn't getting knocked out unless he just comes in really old. Could see Cotto getting stopped late, but I'd really lean more toward a Mosley UD, around 116-112.