This is how i see the fight.
Press conferences promoting the fight - Floyd gets all mouthy, is throwing down the verbal insults, etc. Meanwhile, Hatton reacts calmly and comes out with witty comments and to some extent embarasses Floyd. Floyd gets a little jealous during the whole build up due to the fact so many people like Ricky and his laid back style and the fact he has so many fans.
Both train very hard for it at 147. Both come in at 145ish, but weigh about 150 on fight night.
Rounds 1 to 3 - Floyd wins about 2 rounds by hitting and moving. However, he's made to work very hard - but he just does enough. At this point he thinks he's in control but he will be surprised by Hatton's handspeed and footwork. Hatton will get inside but not quite do enough to win the round.
Rounds 4 to 6 - Hatton comes into the fight a little more after recieving some instructions from his corner to calm down. He boxes cleverly and wins rounds on aggression and volume of punches. He lands some meaty bodyshots during these rounds. Floyd will continue to try and run and outbox him. However, halfway through the fight they will both be very close on points.
Rounds 7 to 9 - There might be a knockdown - maybe Hatton is dropped but it's not a clean shot - or there is a really scrappy round where Hatton is getting to Mayweather who keeps complaining to the referee about the rough stuff inside. The fight is still fairly even. Floyd begins trading more after he realises he isn't in a comfortable lead. He lands some good shots and begins to mark Hatton up. Hattong gets cut, but so does Floyd. Hatton though, is forcing PBF to fight and giving as good as he is getting.
Rounds 10 to 12 - Floyd is beginning to breathe a little heavily. He's been taking bodyshots all throughout the fight and been roughed up. Mentally for this fight, and given the pace Hatton has been fighting at, he expects Hatton to slow down so that Floyd can win the later rounds and seal victory. However, in the 10th he gets broken down mentally as he loses another round and Hatton will not slow as he continues to work inside. Floyd begins to think 'how do i get this guy off me?'. In the last couple of rounds, Hatton is coming on strong and Floyd realises he must trade because at this stage of the fight he can not win rounds by boxing - Hatton's aggression and volume of punches is winning him alot of rounds. Floyd fights but to no avail. He throws alot of right hands but none are slowing Ricky down. Floyd gets seriously hurt by Hatton's bodyshots as the fight comes to a close.
This fight will turn out to be a classic, on the level of Ali/Frazier/Forman, Leonard/Duran/Hagler/Hearns... It could honestly be 50/50 on the cards, but i believe due to Hatton's aggression and stamina in the later rounds he wins the fight by about 2 rounds. This fight will be exciting and will have drama, although Hatton will implement a certain amount of holding inside - although he's gonna dominate the inside fighting anyway everytime he backs Floyd up. After the fight, Floyd moans about all the holding and a rematch is made.
Thoughts?
First of all it's not really fair to Floyd to go against Robinson, cuz, again, Robinson is much bigger, even still I can see him outboxing Robinson. Like I said, much more talented defensively, much more accurate. Robinson was powerful but threw looping punches that Floyd would see all day.
1. Mayweather has better defense than Robinson
2. In a fight between the two would SRR would murder PBF
First of all it's not really fair to Floyd to go against Robinson, cuz, again, Robinson is much bigger, even still I can see him outboxing Robinson. Like I said, much more talented defensively, much more accurate. Robinson was powerful but threw looping punches that Floyd would see all day.
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Would you like some Jergins to go along with that wet dream your having?
Hatton will pressure Floyd all night long! End of story. If anyone gets TKO'ed it's gonna be Mayweather.
nah i like em all natural. :kiss:
as for ur second sentence... did u eat an ounce of shrooms, or jus enough to get that imagination jumpin ALL over the place??
i totaly dissagree with you Robinson was the best boxer ever in my opinion dont compare him to mayweather
put it this way who would win mayweather or Robinson
im saying Robinson round 3-4 K.O thats if he wasnt trying to hard
First of all it's not really fair to Floyd to go against Robinson, cuz, again, Robinson is much bigger, even still I can see him outboxing Robinson. Like I said, much more talented defensively, much more accurate. Robinson was powerful but threw looping punches that Floyd would see all day.
Floyd is a much much MUCH more accurate puncher than Robinson was and WAY more skilled defensively.
i totaly dissagree with you Robinson was the best boxer ever in my opinion dont compare him to mayweather
put it this way who would win mayweather or Robinson
im saying Robinson round 3-4 K.O thats if he wasnt trying to hard
Rounds 1-3: mayweather dances and pop shots ricky. ricky tries to lunge in very powerfully and ungracefully, but floyd keeps pickin him off and movin.
Rounds 4-7: ricky is bruised and possibly cut, he continues to try and get inside on mayweather, bein successful a few times, ricky will think he can unleash, which he does, and mayweather blocks slips and parries all but maybe 2 or 3 hits, and continues hitting and stepping away from ricky.
Rounds 5-8: mayweather gets a little aggressive. lots of lead rights and counter left hooks, ricky is frustrated, and loses what little technique he had in frustration and tries to land a big bomb where he gets wild and allows mayweather to shoot straight shots down the pipe all night.
Round 9-10: mayweather in and out head, body, head body, head body.
Round 11: Mayweather TKO Ricky. everyone shuts their mouths...
Would you like some Jergins to go along with that wet dream your having?
Hatton will pressure Floyd all night long! End of story. If anyone gets TKO'ed it's gonna be Mayweather.
He was still more skilled than Duran and a lot bigger, and Duran won.
So you are saying that Mayweather is completely unbeatable then?
Duran BARELY won and Leonard straight up toyed with him the second fight. And right now, yes, I would say Floyd is unbeatable. He would DESTROY any opponent smaller than himself, and clearly beat anyone at 147. The only people who have a chance against him are people that are WAY bigger such as Hopkins, Winky, and Calzaghe - people who he doesn't even belong in the ring with, and even then I wouldn't count him completely out. He has already beat a Baldomir who outweighed him by 14 pounds and an Oscar that outweighed him by 19. Meanwhile, Ricky Hatton can't go up ONE weight class and win convincingly, so it's really pointless to look to the higher weights to look for people that would beat Floyd to discredit him. At 154 and 147 (which aren't even his natural weights) no one beats him. At 140 and below he blows everyone out of the water.
So Leonard was smaller than Duran as well? Or does that one not count for some other reason?
Don't you read? I said Leonard wasn't nearly as good defensively as Floyd. Nowhere near in fact. Leonard's best defense was his offense, his chin, and his heart. In terms of pure defensive skill he was nothing special at all.
No I didn't. It's a simple case that highly skilled boxrs are sometimes (often) beaten by less skilled fighters with a good chin and a relentless attack. Robinson - LaMotta, Duran - Leonard and Frazier - Ali are three of the more prominent examples. In all three cases the brawler lost the rematches, but they won the first fights and that's the important issue here.
It's irrelevant - Frazier and LaMotta were much bigger than Ali and Robinson. And Ali at that time and Robinson in ANY time did not have Mayweather's defensive skills, same applies to Leonard.
Unless of course you are suggesting that Mayweather is absolutely unbeatable, that there's no way anyone ever could win. And then we know who is being unreasonable.
Originally Posted by tito yuca
First of all asshole Lamotta was a MIDDLEWEIGHT and Robinson a WELTERWEIGHT. Second of all, Robinson WAS NOT as skilled as Mayweather. He is considered the greatest fighter of all time but in terms of pure boxing skill Floyd is miles away. And most importantly, Robinson won FIVE out of SIX times.
WHAT THE HELL :banghead: ARE YOU CRAZY
Floyd is a much much MUCH more accurate puncher than Robinson was and WAY more skilled defensively.
Well you brought up the example, by saying "look at Lamotta and Robison" you're suggesting that Lamotta beat him every time.
No I didn't. It's a simple case that highly skilled boxrs are sometimes (often) beaten by less skilled fighters with a good chin and a relentless attack. Robinson - LaMotta, Duran - Leonard and Frazier - Ali are three of the more prominent examples. In all three cases the brawler lost the rematches, but they won the first fights and that's the important issue here.
Floyd isn't miles ahead on boxing skills. In fact as a complete package Robinson is generally more highly rated because he had a far better offense than Mayweather, But that's pure conjecture. The remaining five LaMotta - Robinson fights are also irrelevant, Robinson lost the first one. And the weights don't really matter either. The point is that boxing is littered with examples of highly skilled boxers losing to less skilled brawlers.
Well you brought up the example, by saying "look at Lamotta and Robison" you're suggesting that Lamotta beat him every time. If he lost 5 out of 6 how does your argument look? And how are you gonna tell me the weight does not matter? Lamotta was a MW and Robison a WW when they fought. That will NOT be the case when Floyd and Hatton fight, so it's useless to compare these two fights. Just proves what Technical_Skill said as being true, that the only arguments Hatton fans have is "Hatton has the style to beat Floyd" and "it will be Duran-Leonard 1". Now it's Robinson-Lamotta 1? Great.
Originally Posted by tito yuca
First of all asshole Lamotta was a MIDDLEWEIGHT and Robinson a WELTERWEIGHT. Second of all, Robinson WAS NOT as skilled as Mayweather. He is considered the greatest fighter of all time but in terms of pure boxing skill Floyd is miles away. And most importantly, Robinson won FIVE out of SIX times.
WHAT THE HELL :banghead: ARE YOU CRAZY
First of all asshole Lamotta was a MIDDLEWEIGHT and Robinson a WELTERWEIGHT. Second of all, Robinson WAS NOT as skilled as Mayweather. He is considered the greatest fighter of all time but in terms of pure boxing skill Floyd is miles away. And most importantly, Robinson won FIVE out of SIX times.
Floyd isn't miles ahead on boxing skills. In fact as a complete package Robinson is generally more highly rated because he had a far better offense than Mayweather, But that's pure conjecture. The remaining five LaMotta - Robinson fights are also irrelevant, Robinson lost the first one. And the weights don't really matter either. The point is that boxing is littered with examples of highly skilled boxers losing to less skilled brawlers.
The same could be said about Robinson and LaMotta.
First of all asshole Lamotta was a MIDDLEWEIGHT and Robinson a WELTERWEIGHT. Second of all, Robinson WAS NOT as skilled as Mayweather. He is considered the greatest fighter of all time but in terms of pure boxing skill Floyd is miles away. And most importantly, Robinson won FIVE out of SIX times.
If you put an average pressure fighter and an average pure boxer together then maybe. Floyd Mayweather is probably the most skilled boxer of all-time, undeniably the most skilled fighting today. The "swarmer vs. boxer" argument does not hold up here because of Floyd's high level of skill. In other words, Floyd is a better boxer than Hatton is a pressure fighter. His defensive skills are so amazing that he can avoid most punches that are thrown at him, and his punching accuracy is so good that as he evades punches he can fire off shots that hit his opponent cleanly, and he does all this better than anyone else out there.
Floyd is not superman. His skills have been on show alot recently because he's been fighting old and slow fighters, bar Judah.
He won't look so fast against Hatton and he won't be able to handle the inside fighting. If he does, then props to him, he is the full package but if Hatton drags him to the trenches then i'd like to see how Floyd reacts.
Floyd does have weaknesses. You just have to look hard for them.