If he thinks DLH will fight him next I think Winky is in for a big surprise. Losing to Bhop will put Winks market strength down. DLH wants super big fights. Winky just lost...dont see this happening. I know DLH just lost but hes been losing kinda and still seems to git the fights.
Bhop.Cal prolly wont happen for a number of reasons. One side or another will price his self out. Joe wont come to Yankee stadium cuz hes a fraidy cat of getting krunked on US soil and finally getting exposed...and Bhop wont go to the UK cuz he knows he'll lose on the cards.
That leaves Winky. This is how Joe works: Its either old washed up guys like Eubanks....young prospects ala 20-0 type guys...or some guy w/shit resume like Bika...losing to Soliman.
Winky is old and just lost, but still has a name and draw. I think Wink will beat Joe easy.
This fight should be made. If Joe wins it only looks good on his resume.
I Think Cal Beats Winky And B-hop Hands Down Hes Way To Fast For These Guys
If He Beats B-hop Evry One Say B-hop Is Old And Past It
If He Beats Winky Ppl Say He Should Of Fought B-hop And That He Has Ducked The Better Fighter
Bla Bla Bla
@ monkeyboy:
Wow...your from London...you'de never be a biased top runner.
Shame on me.
I know its easier to be ignorant, but if you check an atlas (that's a big book full of maps) you'll find that London is in England. Joe Calzaghe is from Wales - that's a different country. I'd say its quite easy for him to be unbiased.
who are the judges for the Joe and kessler
John Coyle
Dave Parris
Micky Vann
I'll bet all my points Parris scores the fight for Calzaghe. Worst reff in the biz.
As far as the weight for Winky.Cal is would have to be a catch weight. Joe would have to lose something. Cant put all the work on Wink. Wink is the bigger name. Fought better opponents.
Dont forget Joe wont have the advantage of being SP. It'll be SP vs. SP. Who has Joe fought that was SP?
:wtf: You crazy? Winky would fucking BEG for Calzaghe. Huge record, lots of interest by the media (undefeated and all) and beatable by Winky no doubt. He may have won the Hoppkins fight too.
Calzaghe can't fight someone coming of a loss like that. Winky need to try and get a fight with Kelly Pavlik, Arthur Abraham, or a rematch with Taylor.
if he is willing to fight guys like manfredo he most definitely should and could fight Winky.
during the fight i was thinking winky would be a good fight for calzaghe but then i was thinking that the weight would be a factor and the location. i know winky doesn't care where he fights, but the thing is there is no way he would get a fair shake on the cards over there. it just wouldn't happen.
but i think the size factor is the main thing in this fight, winky isnt at his best physically above 160.
but style wise it would be a good fight. there would be tons of action.
Winky wouldnt have a chance if he fought like his last fight with bhop with Cal.
Would just be the same outcome. Winky would just cover up and stand there while Cal would fire away at Winky just like Bhop did but Cal would fire about 5-6 more shots and move out of range befor any counter. Cal would be to big and fast for Winky.
Winky should think about retiring, he got beat by a 42 year old man, feather fisted and ive never seen a entertaining fight from him ether
Plus winky poo's his self ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/james25252003/shit.jpg
Winky should be fine back at a lower weight. To fight someone as wily as Hopkins who he cannot hurt was a tough call. The fact that he didn't carry the weight well means he was on a hiding to nothing.
I think Calzaghe is the wrong fight for him as well.
If he goes back to light middle he might be able to tempt Floyd or one of the other top welters up for a payday.
Taylor won't face him again and now has a good excuse to avoid him.
would be a bad choice for winky, calzage throws combinations from differente angles. Wright needs a fight against a stupid fighter which tries too land only big single punches like trinidad. He could beat abraham ( but not in germany). He needs a title for another big fight. Maybe he could take on the winner of baldomir vs. forrest which would be an easy fight for him
@ monkeyboy:
Wow...your from London...you'de never be a biased top runner.
Shame on me.
Wow McNulty. Way to avoid answering any of my questions and pretend they have no validity because you have wrongly decided I am biased. Is that a Boston thing? Oh, sorry. Spurious point. Isn't that easy?
Live in London.
Not English.
US citizen, American born and bred.
Now that we have cleared up your oh-so-valid concerns answer my questions.
Who has he avoided? Who called him out? Give me a substansive difference between Hopkins' middleweight career and Calzaghe's.
Cheers from London!!!!!!!!
Oh yes, none of your answers will matter because you (like me) are American. God, what a great debating technique. If you can't think of anything just assume bias.
you seem to be comparing winky wright, Hopkins, with Eubank, lets not get silly hear, don't thing you ment it like that did you.
Hopkins and eubank in particular had some simliar qualities,
Both defensivley good fighters,
Both dont throw lots of punches,
Both Like to lean in with the right hand.
If he thinks DLH will fight him next I think Winky is in for a big surprise. Losing to Bhop will put Winks market strength down. DLH wants super big fights. Winky just lost...dont see this happening. I know DLH just lost but hes been losing kinda and still seems to git the fights.
Bhop.Cal prolly wont happen for a number of reasons. One side or another will price his self out. Joe wont come to Yankee stadium cuz hes a fraidy cat of getting krunked on US soil and finally getting exposed...and Bhop wont go to the UK cuz he knows he'll lose on the cards.
That leaves Winky. This is how Joe works: Its either old washed up guys like Eubanks....young prospects ala 20-0 type guys...or some guy w/shit resume like Bika...losing to Soliman.
Winky is old and just lost, but still has a name and draw. I think Wink will beat Joe easy.
This fight should be made. If Joe wins it only looks good on his resume.
Er...isn't he fighting Kessler in November?
Joe should take the Hopkins fight. I understand your reservations in terms of the negotiation difficulties, but it should be pushed for one way or the other.
Winky should just fight in a division he's comfortable fighting in. If he can really make 154 still then he should go and dominate. He is the best Light Middleweight in the world by far.
I agree. If Winky fights Calzaghe at 168, I favor Calzaghe becaues Winky looked like he didn't carry the extra weight very well last night. He seemed totally drained the last 4 rounds and that was most likely the major difference in the fight. Calzaghe definitely doesn't present the defensive puzzle that Hopkins did but his consistent work rate would probably have Winky just as tired come the later rounds. I respect Wright for stepping up to fight at 170 but if he can fight at 154 or 160 he can be dominant.
You were talking about being successful against Winky. I like Winky, rooted for him last night as usual, but Joe would knock the living shit out of him.
With Winky's Defense, are you serious? lets not start overrating calzaghe again, he has never been with any fighter with the qualities of a winky wright or bernard hopkins since Eubank, 10 years ago.
So...whos got more talent? Joe Calzaghe Or Sugar Shane Mosely? You dont have to be the same size to compare talent. Ray Robinson was better than any HW ever of all time...Ali ripped off SRR's style. Your saying Ali was better than SRR cuz he was bigger?
You were talking about being successful against Winky. I like Winky, rooted for him last night as usual, but Joe would knock the living shit out of him. Winky was a bad match for Shane, who was out of his league at 154 anyway.
Winky should just fight in a division he's comfortable fighting in. If he can really make 154 still then he should go and dominate. He is the best Light Middleweight in the world by far.