Margarito can beat Mayweather??? Who's talkin' now??

:owned: CARSON, Calif. (AP) - Paul Williams won the WBO welterweight title with an upset victory over champion Antonio Margarito on Saturday night. Williams (33-0) was hurt several times in the 11th round and was cut over the left eye. He was ahead on all three scorecards, 115-113, 115-113, and 116-112. Margarito (34-5) was trying to defend his title for the seventh time. He fell far behind after six rounds then rallied, but fell just short. "I thought I won the fight. Williams threw a lot of punches, but none of the punches ever hurt me," Margarito said. "After the ninth round, I thought I was ahead on all score cards. I know I hurt him several times. I walked over to Williams' corner at the end of the fight and told him, 'You know you didn't win the fight." Williams came out very fast and busy, and was able to outpunch Margarito in exchanges. "I know I needed to win the early rounds because Margarito always comes on in the second half of a fight," Williams said. "But I thought I held my own in the second half." Margarito tried to get closer to Williams in the first four rounds, but Williams held when he got inside. Margarito had his first solid round in the fifth, landing some high quality punches, but Williams landed several clean right hands in the sixth. Margarito's body punching began to slow Williams significantly in the second half of the fight. The seventh and eighth were strong rounds for Margarito as the body work began to take effect, making Williams' legs shaky. But Williams lengthened his lead in the ninth when his right uppercuts in close were very effective on Margarito. Margarito applied non-stop pressure in the 10th and shook Williams with a right hand just before the bell. In the 11th Margarito seemed on the verge of stopping Williams, hurting Williams several times and opening the deep cut over his left eye. Promoter Bob Arum said after the fight that the loss did not diminish Margarito's status. Arum said he'll speak with Margarito next week about a fight against unbeaten Miguel Totto. Maybe the question should be "Can Paul Williams beat PBF?" cause why would Floyd even consider fighting Margarito now?? I've been reading threads for months from Margarito lovers, No, scratch that, Mayweather HATERS, that Floyds ducking the man, Floyd wouldn't stand a chance, blahblahblah yakitty schmakitty!! I'm glad Floyd decided to wait & see who the cream of the crop is, if he walked in & whooped a cat that any of these up & comers could whoop, ya'll still wouldn't give him his propers. Lets wait & see who can beat @ least 3/4 guys in the top ten b4 we call for Floyd, he needs this time off to spend some of that scrilla. Now can u Dig Dat!?!?!:boxing:

Comments (20)

it is more that possible that marg COULD win williams and mayweather are 2 completely different beast 100% different styles

18y ago

Mayweather is way too fast for Margarito handspeed and footwork. Margarito is too slow on his feet. He would get outboxed all night. DLH would beat Margarito.

18y ago

BK_Saddizzle

:puke: IM STILL TALKING ...................MARGARITO BY KO:boxing: Daaaaaaaamn, u can sp*t some crap!! I don't think Marg could even beat Oscar De La Hoya, far less PBF, mang!! U sure u watch boxing, or only surf various sites?? Tell U what gixxer, in front of all these ppl on this thread, I'll bet u 7K on tonights fight with me takin' B-Hop by majority decision. Que pasa, mang????:boxing:

18y ago

pbftxrs316

all this arguing without me. can't have that can we? margarito would lose to mayweather and i've always claimed this. is he stronger, yes. is he bigger, maybe. is he faster, no. can he pressure, when he wants to, and against mayweather, he'd have to. margarito winning on size alone is bullshit. we've heard in before. margarito walking through floyd's punches is also bullshit, because mayweather hits harder than people give him credit for. floyd is a smarter fighter, who has so many tools to beat tony and i actually see tony losing most of the rounds against floyd. tony would need to go all out to beat floyd and i don't think he would. paul williams won the fight, not because of his size, because margarito got inside and landed some nice body shots and he hurt him also. williams win because of his activity and punch output and because of his heart and i don't use heart in my posts ever, but paul williams went pass the 10th round for the 1st time in his career and he was hurt in the 11th, but he put rounds 1-6 in the bag, lost 7 and 8 imo, won 9 and 12, so i saw him winning 116-112 over margarito who thought he could come on late and squeeze a victory out like he did over clottey. well, he was wrong. paul williams won the fight and mayweather would beat margarito like it was nobody's business because he's in a different league skillwise. margarito knows that he can't match floyd on speed, footmovement, upperbody movement and counterpunching, so he'd have to pressure relentlessly and use a lot of power shots because his jab isn't a de la hoya jab, that's for sure. he'd have to go to floyd's body with a lot of power to try to land a punch on his liver, which i don't see happening, or tiring him out, which won't happen because of his stamina, so just like everybody else, the best way to beat floyd is knocking him out, but i'm sure many of you on here believe if anybody can do it, tony can. well, i'm here to inform you clowns otherwise. margarito won't land too much on floyd and he will be hit a lot, all to the to another lost, face facts.

18y ago

KNan

I doubt that, any real boxing fan or someone who actually follows the sport and not one fighter know that PBF would quite possibly win all 12 rounds against Margarito. Margarito's so slow that he wouldn't be able to find Mayweather. The difference in speed would just be too much for him. Yeah. I don't know why Manny Steward was so surpised at the exxagerated slowness of Margarito. He must not have watched the Clottey fight. Dude is ridiculously sluggish.

18y ago

Gareth_Ivanovic

oscar is a businessman. margarito is a fighter. margarito knows how to bring the pressure like no one else and mayweather pitypat little punches wont stop the mexican bulldozer for knocking out that glass chin fraud mayeather. I doubt that, any real boxing fan or someone who actually follows the sport and not one fighter know that PBF would quite possibly win all 12 rounds against Margarito. Margarito's so slow that he wouldn't be able to find Mayweather. The difference in speed would just be too much for him.

18y ago

bdevils

oscar is a businessman. margarito is a fighter. margarito knows how to bring the pressure like no one else and mayweather pitypat little punches wont stop the mexican bulldozer for knocking out that glass chin fraud mayeather. First off his slow ass would have to hit Floyd. Secondly how do you know he has a glass chin? Have you ever seen him get KO'd or even KD?

18y ago

SpeedKillz

I'm not sure Ricky Hatton will be much of a threat to PBF at 147, but let's hope it's at least a more entertaining fight than the DLH bout. i was referring to baldomir for 8 mil instead of marg, but yea ricky hatton isnt a threat to floyd. it will be a one-sided beating.

18y ago

drknoise

y not fight a somebody for 8 mil instead?? how much did he make against bruseles?? i have no idea... I'm not sure Ricky Hatton will be much of a threat to PBF at 147, but let's hope it's at least a more entertaining fight than the DLH bout.

18y ago

SpeedKillz

Again, if he's a nobody, then why not fight a nobody for $8 mil? How much did PBF earn for Bruseles? The spin won't work on me. PBF is a great fighter, but he's cherry pickin' his opposition. y not fight a somebody for 8 mil instead?? how much did he make against bruseles?? i have no idea...

18y ago

drknoise

carlos baldomir is the guy who beat zab and gatti convincingly. sharmba mitchell is a former world champion and well known and respected. who's margarito again?? Again, if he's a nobody, then why not fight a nobody for $8 mil? How much did PBF earn for Bruseles? The spin won't work on me. PBF is a great fighter, but he's cherry pickin' his opposition.

18y ago

SpeedKillz

18y ago

SpeedKillz

They said the same about Oscar and we all know what happened in that fight. The only difference is Oscar still has some speed unlike Marg's slow ass. ...and skill

18y ago

bdevils

hey man styles make fights and margarito would be mayweathers worst nightmare. to much size and to much power. They said the same about Oscar and we all know what happened in that fight. The only difference is Oscar still has some speed unlike Marg's slow ass.

18y ago

SpeedKillz

There's the public and there's the boxing community. The public didn't know Margarito, but the boxing community knew him well enough. Name a boxing forum that wasn't flooded with messages calling out this fight after he beat Cintron. And if we're playing the "Who" game, who's Carlos Baldomir? who's Sharmba Mitchell? who's Henry Bruseles? carlos baldomir is the guy who beat zab and gatti convincingly. sharmba mitchell is a former world champion and well known and respected. who's margarito again??

18y ago

drknoise

How??? Marg was virually unknown to the general public. His biggest win was against a green Cintron. The only thing Marg had going for him is his Promoter who wanted to get back at Floyd for leaving him. There's the public and there's the boxing community. The public didn't know Margarito, but the boxing community knew him well enough. Name a boxing forum that wasn't flooded with messages calling out this fight after he beat Cintron. And if we're playing the "Who" game, who's Carlos Baldomir? who's Sharmba Mitchell? who's Henry Bruseles?

18y ago

SpeedKillz

What's "smart decision making" when it comes to P4P GOAT? No one will ever look at Ray Robinson's career and say he made some "smart decisions" about his opposition. He fought all comers. I didn't suggest that he fight Margarito instead of Baldomir. Fight both, clear out the division, stake your claim as P4P greatest of all time. Again, Floyd focus is cash, not prestige. So, in his quest for cash, he's been smart. In his quest for greatness, he has not. well to rebutt i'll say marg should have fought a better fighter before he was to fight floyd... wait, he did that already....... and we saw what happened. his quest for greatness is not over. there are still names he has to clear out, which will be done. marg wasnt one of them before pwill, and he will never be one of them now.

18y ago

bdevils

I think we both know that there was no guarantee for the DLH/PBF when PBF severed ties with Arum. So, yes, he hedged a bet and won. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have fought Margarito for the 8 mil, then fought DLH for even more than 20 mil. I don't think there's any way to spin this given that he previously fought the following for no money: Carlos Baldomir Zab Judah Sharmba Mitchell Arturo Gatti Henry Bruseles PBF earned nothing in the way of respect for fighting these guys. Beating Margarito at that time would have given him great respect as well as more leverage at the bargaining table vs. DLH. The truth, in my opinion, was Margarito simply wasn't worth the risk, from a P4P perspective or losing his undefeated record. That's ducking in my book. But I don't fault him. PBF is clear that he's all about the money, so he's achieving his goals. I think the GOAT talk is a front. Padding his record with non-quality opposition will not earn him P4P of all time. Margarito is still a threat in my book but he was replaced as the greater threat by PWillie. How??? Marg was virually unknown to the general public. His biggest win was against a green Cintron. The only thing Marg had going for him is his Promoter who wanted to get back at Floyd for leaving him.

18y ago

drknoise

but he fought the linear champ in baldomir for the same amount he woulda got for marg, and baldomir jus beat zab and gatti, and he had a cinderella story going, and WAY more people knew him than marg, so i dont call that ducking, i call it smart decision making. floyd beat the linear WW champ and gets a shot at DLH, makes alot of sense. or, if floyd beats a version of a WW champ and then gets dlh would raise questions along the lines of "mayweather beat a nobody why should he fight dlh, he never beat the real champ.." and so on and so on, so floyd and his team made the right decisions in fighting bald instead of marg. What's "smart decision making" when it comes to P4P GOAT? No one will ever look at Ray Robinson's career and say he made some "smart decisions" about his opposition. He fought all comers. I didn't suggest that he fight Margarito instead of Baldomir. Fight both, clear out the division, stake your claim as P4P greatest of all time. Again, Floyd focus is cash, not prestige. So, in his quest for cash, he's been smart. In his quest for greatness, he has not.

18y ago

bdevils

LOL......YOUVE BEEN HERE SINCE 05 .......IVE BEEN WATCHING BOXING FOREVER AND IVE BEEN HERE LONGER THEN YOU HAVE SO GO TELL THAT SHIT TO SOMEONE WHO CARES..........MARGARITO STILL WON IN MY EYES :twak: I'm sure they have a Lens Crafters or something where you live maybe you need to check them out because your boy lost bottom line now STFU!!!

18y ago