Williams Is Soooooooooooo Underrated?

DLT18y ago

Wow, I cant believe the shift on these boards. He went from alot of people starting to like him to being ripped on the regular and it happened pretty quickly. Listening to the stuff some people are saying on here makes me think there watching a different guy then what I saw. 1st off you hear alot that he wins because of his size. I disagree with that. Ofcourse his size gives him a huge advantage but the kid has skills. He's no ordinary fighter. He knows how to fight. Also, since when has he been the only big guy in boxing? You guys dont say that about other people. Size isnt just about height. At 140 Cotto was nearly twice as big as everyone he fought and you could argue that he wouldve lost a few fights if guys were his size. The same with Hatton. Some say that Williams only beat Margarito because of his size? What about Margarito? He's got a huge size advantage in nearly all of his fights but no one said anything then. Williams still fought within the weight limit. I dont care if he was 7ft tall. There have been plenty of super tall guys for there weight but most of them are average or stiffs who get KO. This kid has talent and he deserves respect. The 2nd thing you hear is that he slaps with his punches and doesnt have the power to keep guys off him. Let me tell all of you fools something, you must have no eyes because there's 2 things your not realizing. 1st off Margarito is a monster. There is not one other fighter in that WW division who is going to walk through Williams punches and if you think so then your smoking. He wouldve stopped nearly everyone last night and the guys he didnt stop still wouldnt have made him sweat. I dont know how Margarito was doing it. People say dumb stuff like he doesnt throw with enough force all the time and he only gets KO's because of output? Duh and So! What difference does that make? There aint no fighter in history who can throw a 110 punches per round and load up on all of them. He is a volume puncher. Theres still no difference in the end. He may not have the one punch power that some guys have but his 2 punches will equal your 1 and if thats not enough then here are 3 more. Not many people can take all those quick snapping shots. My thing about Williams is this. Those first 6 rounds you saw against Margarito is the real Williams and nearly everyone will have hell with that. What happened in those last 6 rounds was only because Margarito is a fuckin monster. If you guys think that these other guys will walk through those punches like Margarito did, will wear him down like Margarito did, and will have Williams on the move like Margarito did then your smoking. Margarito is a fucking huge guy his ownself and those are his kind of fights. Not just anyone can do that. Williams is also not a punk. Margarito just applied pressure that no one else can. Williams wont normally get tired, he wont normally get on the run, or anything else. It was just Margarito. Then I heard people say that he holds like Hatton and dumb shit. 1st off he didnt hold that much. 2nd, whenever he did hold he let go quick. It wasnt like Hatton who stays in a clinch forever or tries to hold you there and punch with the other hand. Williams did it for a second and then would let go and fire off a 5 punch combo. He also only did it because of Margarito. Again you guys arent giving him enough credit for what went on. Did Williams hold any the first 6 rounds? Has he held any in his career? He did that because he had no choice. He was tired and a little shook from the fact that Margarito was walking through his punches and coming even harder as the fight went on. I saw the thread that had everyone picking Cotto over Williams. You guys are really overrating Cotto. Your not overrating the fact that he is good but this Division is talented. Im telling you right now that Cotto was not on neither of those guys level and Im talking about to the point where both guys not only wouldve won but would have destroyed him. Cotto has never fought guys like this. You guys arent understanding that. These guys are more talented then anyone he's ever fought while being twice the size as anyone he's ever fought. There real WW's and there probally even bigger then that. Its not the same as fighting fucking Paulie, Quintana, or Zab. Its a whole different fight. Why the hell do you think Arum wont do it. I would put everything I have on a fight with Williams or Margarito that not only does Cotto lose but he gets straight up destroyed and doesnt finish the fight. The other part I left out is that alot of people think a guy like Cotto will knock him out. Did you guys see the shots he took from Margarito? Dude has a crazy chin. He aint going nowhere

Comments (11)

DLT

yall make me laugh. williams would wipe the floor with cotto. cotto?? the guy who had to trinidad judah to get him off him?? judah who throws 20 punches a round?? williams would come at cotto with angles and movement and unleash fury, cotto, standing what 8 inches shorter, would get destroyed. there is NO CHANCE mayweather beats williams either. watch margarito vs cintron, and then watch margarito vs williams. williams takes a punch as good as anybody in boxing, has stamina and heart on the same level as mayweather, and unlike pbf he actually fights and goes for the win. those rounds margarito won (i only gave him 3) were merely because williams elected to stand and trade instead of box because he's a fighter. he doesn't mind getting hit. that one hatton lover said "why wouldn't a fight like that change people's opinions on him?" COMING FROM A HATTON FAN?? pleeeease, margarito would mop the floor with hatton. williams would do it even worse. haters are haters and let them be. to think williams has no power (he looked pretty good vs mitchell, stopping him faster then mayweather and dropping him 4 times) and guys can just walk through his punches show how ignorant some fans are. williams is a beast, and as long as he fights at 147, NOBODY, including Floyd "I will potshot and take half the rounds off" Mayweather can touch him. I definatly dont agree with the Floyd part. Again, why do people act like the last 2 fights are the only one's they saw of Floyd? He's had fights where he's thrown a bunch of punches, he's had fights where he stalks guys, and he's had fights when he's very offensive minded. Floyd changes his game plan depending on the fight. Dont think that Floyd would fight Williams the same exact way he fought Baldy & Oscar. He wouldnt be pot shotting this guy. He would throw alot of combos in this fight

18y ago

Antonio

Williams showed that body punches bother him. Everytime he got hit solid he would step away. Cotto wouldnt be able to reach his head anyway. He would have to stick his jab in Williams' chest all night. It would be really difficult for Cotto to get inside against Williams though. Put him in with Clottey, that would be a great fight.

18y ago

Cletus_Funk

Got to disagree about his power hitting, DLT. He can't punch for shit, or at least he couldn't on Saturday. Someone else posted it but it's pretty true - it's like he was shadow boxing most of the time. Marg's chin isn't the point. 1200 punches from a big guy like Williams and barely a mark on Margarito tells a story. Either Marg has titanium skin or there's nothing on most of the shots. At a rough estimate, I'd say he puts some weight behind 10% of the shots that he throws. His balance looks pretty horrible too. I thought he was going to fall over himself a few times. Credit to him though, I thought he won pretty easily.

18y ago

THe_TRiNiTY

Most cats on 'net boards tend to like Margarito, A LOT. So, when he's beaten, the person who beats him MIGHT catch some flack. That's what it seems like to me. As for Williams himself.. Good boxer.. Great conditioning, stamina.. volume of punches, tons of angles, gives opponents a strange look, in terms of a target, quite a bit of speed. Nice jab, aswell. However, he CAN be rocked, as Margarito did leave him "jarred" a couple of times. No serious danger, butseeing as how he has balance issues, that could create a problem. He has little power to his shots, as he focuses on speed and stamina more than not. And his right hand SEEMS to be a weakness. Overall... He gives Mosley a good fight.. Beats a lot of good fights.. and probably loses to, but gives a good fight to, Mayweather.. In my humble, personal, opinion.

18y ago

Antonio

I think people aren't convinced because of his lack of power, and ability to take punishment. That was what I thought coming into the Margarito fight. Now Im convinced that he is the real deal.

18y ago

DLT

Paul is good. He is good when he is fresh, sharp footwork and throws alot of punches. But in the later rounds this guy can be taken out. Margarito was hitting him with some monster body shots, I was suprised Paul was hanging in there. He is a tough kid but I do think he is not very stable on his feet and he can get knocked out by a properly placed punch. Cotto would beat him pretty good I think. Yeah but my point is that he will be fresh in the later rounds, its just that Margartio was a monster who took it out of him and walked through a ton of fire. I dont think Williams would look like that in the 2nd half of the fight against anyone else. The other part I left out is that alot of people think a guy like Cotto will knock him out. Did you guys see the shots he took from Margarito? Dude has a crazy chin. He aint going nowhere

18y ago

renren40

paul is ok he throws alot of punches and thats cool but he is too flawed at 33 fights dude dont even throw straight right hands if he does he would do much better if u can win with the jab it's still a big fat "W" but the guy is right about the clinching... Hatton hardly gets warned about his clinching when he should have a point taken away or even disqualified! Williams clinches strategically...he dishes out and locks up (happens a lot when the other fighter is coming forward or misses his punches)......then he spins his opponent or lets go quickly...either way he throws combos right after the clinch...Hatton holds and holds and holds and holds and never lets go!!!!!!!! it is so irritating to watch

18y ago

Sin_City

Before many people said he was over rated now he under rated.. yall *****s change opinions more then underwear

18y ago

Kobe_Bryant

I agree he's catching hate for winning. And I would take him over Cotto if they were to get it on. He punches from all over the place. And those 6 to 7 beginning rounds were great. He outboxed Marg easily. And his movement was excellent. Everyone before the fight said he wouldn't commit to using his length well it looks like he did. And his stamina is very very good. Hard to belief he didn't ture much in the second half of the fight. And he faught like a fuckin champ in the 12th. The kid is legit.

18y ago

boxer2k5

Wow, I cant believe the shift on these boards. He went from alot of people starting to like him to being ripped on the regular and it happened pretty quickly. Listening to the stuff some people are saying on here makes me think there watching a different guy then what I saw. 1st off you hear alot that he wins because of his size. I disagree with that. Ofcourse his size gives him a huge advantage but the kid has skills. He's no ordinary fighter. He knows how to fight. Also, since when has he been the only big guy in boxing? You guys dont say that about other people. Size isnt just about height. At 140 Cotto was nearly twice as big as everyone he fought and you could argue that he wouldve lost a few fights if guys were his size. The same with Hatton. Some say that Williams only beat Margarito because of his size? What about Margarito? He's got a huge size advantage in nearly all of his fights but no one said anything then. Williams still fought within the weight limit. I dont care if he was 7ft tall. There have been plenty of super tall guys for there weight but most of them are average or stiffs who get KO. This kid has talent and he deserves respect. The 2nd thing you hear is that he slaps with his punches and doesnt have the power to keep guys off him. Let me tell all of you fools something, you must have no eyes because there's 2 things your not realizing. 1st off Margarito is a monster. There is not one other fighter in that WW division who is going to walk through Williams punches and if you think so then your smoking. He wouldve stopped nearly everyone last night and the guys he didnt stop still wouldnt have made him sweat. I dont know how Margarito was doing it. People say dumb stuff like he doesnt throw with enough force all the time and he only gets KO's because of output? Duh and So! What difference does that make? There aint no fighter in history who can throw a 110 punches per round and load up on all of them. He is a volume puncher. Theres still no difference in the end. He may not have the one punch power that some guys have but his 2 punches will equal your 1 and if thats not enough then here are 3 more. Not many people can take all those quick snapping shots. My thing about Williams is this. Those first 6 rounds you saw against Margarito is the real Williams and nearly everyone will have hell with that. What happened in those last 6 rounds was only because Margarito is a fuckin monster. If you guys think that these other guys will walk through those punches like Margarito did, will wear him down like Margarito did, and will have Williams on the move like Margarito did then your smoking. Margarito is a fucking huge guy his ownself and those are his kind of fights. Not just anyone can do that. Williams is also not a punk. Margarito just applied pressure that no one else can. Williams wont normally get tired, he wont normally get on the run, or anything else. It was just Margarito. Then I heard people say that he holds like Hatton and dumb shit. 1st off he didnt hold that much. 2nd, whenever he did hold he let go quick. It wasnt like Hatton who stays in a clinch forever or tries to hold you there and punch with the other hand. Williams did it for a second and then would let go and fire off a 5 punch combo. He also only did it because of Margarito. Again you guys arent giving him enough credit for what went on. Did Williams hold any the first 6 rounds? Has he held any in his career? He did that because he had no choice. He was tired and a little shook from the fact that Margarito was walking through his punches and coming even harder as the fight went on. I saw the thread that had everyone picking Cotto over Williams. You guys are really overrating Cotto. Your not overrating the fact that he is good but this Division is talented. Im telling you right now that Cotto was not on neither of those guys level and Im talking about to the point where both guys not only wouldve won but would have destroyed him. Cotto has never fought guys like this. You guys arent understanding that. These guys are more talented then anyone he's ever fought while being twice the size as anyone he's ever fought. There real WW's and there probally even bigger then that. Its not the same as fighting fucking Paulie, Quintana, or Zab. Its a whole different fight. Why the hell do you think Arum wont do it. I would put everything I have on a fight with Williams or Margarito that not only does Cotto lose but he gets straight up destroyed and doesnt finish the fight. paul is ok he throws alot of punches and thats cool but he is too flawed at 33 fights dude dont even throw straight right hands if he does he would do much better

18y ago

Kball15

Why cant 1 fight change someones opinion? Especially a performance like that.

18y ago