First of all, Let me preface by saying a couple things concerning Mayeweather ability. Yes, He has skills. He has shown that he can compete on a level that most guys never will. He has shown that he can beat flawed, one dimensional fighters, and he has shown he can beat over the hill has beens.
Now lets focus on matters at hand. Ricky Hatton is apparantly in the works. Most of mayweathers fans say this will be an easy fight for Mayweather. They base those assumption on statements like "Hatton is an inflated Castillo" or "Hatton doesn't have a Jab" or "Who has Hatton beat to be in Mayweathers league?". Well, lets address those points one at a time in a logical manner.
Hatton is an inflated Castillo- What does that mean? Castillo is a counter puncher that likes to stay in the pocket and work of the opponents mistakes. Hatton on the other hand is the purest form of pressure fighter there is. He comes and He comes, and if that don't work, He comes even more. To equate Hattons style to Castillo's shows a lack of understanding of the basics
skill sets required to understand the game. In other words, It's like calling Marvin Hagler a Technician! :owned:
Hatton doesn't have a jab- How does this figure into the equation? Oscar had a great jab. Did it help? Yes, when he used it, but in now way is a jab necessary to defeat Mayweather. If you had watched Hatton fight the first thing that becomes apparent is his ability to lunge in very quikly and rip Body shots and uppercuts without ever using the jab in a meaningfull way. Many will say that Floyd will counter hatton comming in, and that may be true, but when was the last time Floyd really had the power to discourage or hurt somone comming forward? Hatton has shown he is more than willing to take a little to give a little. Did you watch the Tzsyu fight? Many say it was a hugfest and Hatton cheated his way to victory. What most ignore is that Tzsyu landed many powerfull shots on Hatton and not for one second did stop the onslaught. Do any here really believe Mayweather has more pop that Tzsyu?
Who has Hatton beat? I counter, Who has Floyd beat? That said, I don't see where this has any bearing whatsoever on what would happen if they meet. Mayweather hasn't shown the kind of dominace required to automatically assume anything(with the exception that he will be highly mobile) where any matchup is concerned.
In the end the question is simple-Can Hatton slow Mayweather down enough to make him stand and fight. Now, There is the real question! If Hatton can slow Mayweather down with the body work he will eventually overpower Floyd. If on the other hand Mayweather can avoid and potshot all night, he will do exactly that.
I have little faith in Mayweather mental ability to withstand what Hatton will do to him. I think Mayweather doesn't know what adversity is. When He counters Hatton and Hatton keeps comming,and comming, and comming, Mayweather will begin to wear down.
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thanks for the brillant conversation tech. a guy like you will always put more weight in areas like belts never questioning the legitimacy of those titles. U will use any means necessary to justify the fraud. It's a fact Floyd picked the absolute worst title holders in every division he fougth in. Nuff said. That dont count for shit in my book!
Lol, again you cant answer a simple yes or no question,
So if floyd did pick the worst title holders in his divison, let me ask you this.
Who has fought better fighters, Mayweather or Calzaghe?
Straight answer please.
Easton Assasin, you have failed to answer my question
Lets try again,
You said Calzaghe was more accomplished than mayweather
Above are some of mayweather's accomplishments.
Can you list Joe Calzaghe's accomplishment which better mayweather's?
You must be able to, otherwise you wouldnt have said Joe Calzaghe has accomplished more than mayweather.
thanks for the brillant conversation tech. a guy like you will always put more weight in areas like belts never questioning the legitimacy of those titles. U will use any means necessary to justify the fraud. It's a fact Floyd picked the absolute worst title holders in every division he fougth in. Nuff said. That dont count for shit in my book!
Okay, so we know you cant answer basic yes or no questions, lol
So your not one to talk about logic.
Now lets tackle this next bit,
here are some of mayweather's accomplishments.
-Ring Magazine fighter of the year at 21 old
-Became WBC world champion at 21 years old
- 5 weight world champion
-Only guy in boxing history to win the WBC in 5 different weight classes (according to the man himself)
- The only man in boxing history be a five weight world champion by age 30 i think.
Now.
Please list Joe calzaghe's accomplishments that you think can either equal or better these achivements.
Im very interested to know.
Easton Assasin, you have failed to answer my question
Lets try again,
You said Calzaghe was more accomplished than mayweather
Above are some of mayweather's accomplishments.
Can you list Joe Calzaghe's accomplishment which better mayweather's?
You must be able to, otherwise you wouldnt have said Joe Calzaghe has accomplished more than mayweather.
Okay, so we know you cant answer basic yes or no questions, lol
So your not one to talk about logic.
Now lets tackle this next bit,
here are some of mayweather's accomplishments.
-Ring Magazine fighter of the year at 21 old
-Became WBC world champion at 21 years old
- 5 weight world champion
-Only guy in boxing history to win the WBC in 5 different weight classes (according to the man himself)
- The only man in boxing history be a five weight world champion by age 30 i think.
Now.
Please list Joe calzaghe's accomplishments that you think can either equal or better these achivements.
Im very interested to know.
And who where those five belt holder he beat to get the straps? go on technical-list em. Let the world see how much of a fraud those five belts are. Show me one prime champion considered to be elite? just one Technical.
Its like saying i whooped five guys asses and neglecting to point out they were all midgets! such a biased spinning fuck u are my freind!
I answered that. Why don't you just make up somthing and credit me with it man. whatever your evil little plan is- i'm not interested in it.
Yes, i thought i made it abundantly clear. until floyd fights a prime champion i think CALZAGHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED MORE!!!
Okay, so we know you cant answer basic yes or no questions, lol
So your not one to talk about logic.
Now lets tackle this next bit,
here are some of mayweather's accomplishments.
-Ring Magazine fighter of the year at 21 old
-Became WBC world champion at 21 years old
- 5 weight world champion
-Only guy in boxing history to win the WBC in 5 different weight classes (according to the man himself)
- The only man in boxing history be a five weight world champion by age 30 i think.
Now.
Please list Joe calzaghe's accomplishments that you think can either equal or better these achivements.
Im very interested to know.
Technical_Skill baits his opponent again...doesn't he know any other way to have a discussion?
man, the truth is he isn't accomplishing anything. Floyd Mayweather hasn't proven shit against anyone of note since leaving 130. How that makes him the p4p champ is beyond me, but hey, it's technicals world, we are just living in it! lolol
Third time now,
Yes or no Answer please.
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe has fought better fighters than Floyd Mayweather?
Yes or No. answer please.
I answered that. Why don't you just make up somthing and credit me with it man. whatever your evil little plan is- i'm not interested in it.
Yes, i thought i made it abundantly clear. until floyd fights a prime champion i think CALZAGHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED MORE!!!
Has Floyd fought anyone to compare to a Prime champion like Lacey was? Wasn't lacey considered a shoe in in that fight? wasn't Calzaghe supposed to get exposed? Guess what, he came in and took out one of the biggest stars in boxing in his prime. What the hell has Floyd done to compare to that?
Third time now,
Yes or no Answer please.
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe has fought better fighters than Floyd Mayweather?
Yes or No. answer please.
Lol. ok.
Right you obviously had problems with the comprehension, let try one more time
Do you think Joe Calzaghe has fought better fighters than Floyd Mayweather?
Yes or no answer please.
Has Floyd fought anyone to compare to a Prime champion like Lacey was? Wasn't lacey considered a shoe in in that fight? wasn't Calzaghe supposed to get exposed? Guess what, he came in and took out one of the biggest stars in boxing in his prime. What the hell has Floyd done to compare to that?
I think thats pretty clear. Yes i think calzaghe is an overall better fighter than Floyd Mayweather!
Lol. ok.
Right you obviously had problems with the comprehension, let try one more time
Do you think Joe Calzaghe has fought better fighters than Floyd Mayweather?
Yes or no answer please.
You not making yourself clear here, grow a sack (in your words)
And make a statement. lol
Are you saying Joe calzaghe is a better fighter than floyd mayweather?
Are you saying he Joe Calzaghe has fought better fighters than mayweather?
Yes or no Answer please.
Im saying that as a Trainer i would take a joe Calzaghe any day over a Mayweather. Mayweather will lose as soon as he signs to fight any elite REAL prime fighter. Calzaghe is trying his ass of to get one of the strongest prime fighters near his weight in the ring. I think thats pretty clear. Yes i think calzaghe is an overall better fighter than Floyd Mayweather!
What the hell are you basing Mayweather skills on? Certainly noone in their prime like Jeff Lacey was!
As a matter of fact, yes, I think Calzaghe has show class, determination, durability and a great skill set. Has calzaghie dodged every offer made to him?
He sure coulda dodged Lacey. I bet you picked Lacey in that matchup! Most did. anyway, yes, I rate Calzaghe above Mayweather for many reasons!
You not making yourself clear here, grow a sack (in your words)
And make a statement. lol
Are you saying Joe calzaghe is a better fighter than floyd mayweather?
Are you saying he Joe Calzaghe has fought better fighters than mayweather?
Yes or no Answer please.
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Lmao, where's the boxing talk in this, i thought you wanted to talk boxing?
You said mayweather hasnt fought enough class fighters in their prime.
So how can you have calzaghe above mayweather when he hasnt fought one p4p fighter ever, , (to my knowledge, perhpaps eubanks was as close as it got) and hasnt faced the calibre of opponents mayweather has
So how can you criticise floyd for not fighting enough big names, but then rate calzaghe abov floyd p4p when Joe has fought even less big names?
Where is the logic in that?
Or are you saying Calzaghe has fought better fighters than mayweather?
Or are you saying calzaghe is a better fighter than mayweather?
Which one is it?
As a matter of fact, yes, I think Calzaghe has show class, determination, durability and a great skill set. Has calzaghie dodged every offer made to him?
He sure coulda dodged Lacey. I bet you picked Lacey in that matchup! Most did. anyway, yes, I rate Calzaghe above Mayweather for many reasons!
Calzaghe is trying to fight the best guy out there right now-Kessler. He would have fought Jones at a catch weight, Can the same be said for fraudweather?
:ugh: Classic Technical reply. What is a p4p list? It is the purest form of speculation in the sport. That said it is not possible to be waaaay off as you put it.
I don't feel the need to defend my veiws any further where your concerned Tech. You have shown how utterly incapable you are using common sense!
Lmao, where's the boxing talk in this, i thought you wanted to talk boxing?
You said mayweather hasnt fought enough class fighters in their prime.
So how can you have calzaghe above mayweather when i dont think he hasnt fought one p4p fighter ever, , (to my knowledge, perhpaps eubanks was as close as it got) and hasnt faced the calibre of opponents mayweather has
So how can you criticise floyd for not fighting enough big names, but then rate calzaghe above floyd p4p when Joe has fought even less big names?
Where is the logic in that?
Or are you saying Calzaghe has fought better fighters than mayweather?
Or are you saying calzaghe is a better fighter than mayweather?
Which one is it?
Come on then lets talk about this p4p list and how good it is.
Do you really wanna do that? because to be honest, i think its a Horrible list to say the least, to be honest id rather not comment, and let you wallow in your own stupidity.
I mean do i have to go back and quote you asking me how many prime class fighters mayweather fought?
I dont know how you think Calzaghe has fought better fighters than mayweather, has he ever fought anyone who has ever been p4p?
I dont think so.
He is a class fighter, but he hasnt done enough in his carrer to be considered above mayweather p4p.
And if you dont know that, i would see a doctor, the illness you have is probably terminal.
Classic Technical reply. What is a p4p list? It is the purest form of speculation in the sport. That said it is not possible to be waaaay off as you put it.
I don't feel the need to defend my veiws any further where your concerned Tech. You have shown how utterly incapable you are using common sense!
lol, my credability is now suspect! So sayeth technical, so let it be written, so let it be done!
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Just to amuse you
My top five p4p
1. Paq
2. Wright
3. Hatton
4. Taylor
5. Calzaghe( if he beats Kessler, he moves to 2)
6. Mayweather
Come on then lets talk about this p4p list and how good it is.
Do you really wanna do that? because to be honest, i think its a Horrible list to say the least, to be honest id rather not comment, and let you wallow in your own stupidity.
I mean do i have to go back and quote you asking me how many prime class fighters mayweather fought?
I dont know how you think Calzaghe has fought better fighters than mayweather, has he ever fought anyone who has ever been p4p?
I dont think so.
He is a class fighter, but he hasnt done enough in his carrer to be considered above mayweather p4p.
And if you dont know that, i would see a doctor, the illness you have is probably terminal.
Easton Assassin, I wish we had more intelligent posters like yourself on this website and we could be rid of a few childish bitches like Technical_Skill.
By the way canada, I think the comparisons you made were valid. Wlad is still young in heaveyweight terms and the man was heralded as the second comming not long ago-theres a reason for that! He has awsome skills for a big man-he is a chiseled giant with great power and movement- the one knock is stamina obviously, but that can be aquired. If he does, then look out. of all heaveyweights out there today Wlad has the best chance to unify and dominate the division!
Nice, you shot yourself in the foot after about two seconds.
Exibit one, Canada's Joe's reasoning for Wladimir Klitschko achieving more in boxing than roy jones.
Exibit two: Canada joe's conspiracies about black fighters.
Lol, nice try at claiming you were misquoted tho.
All i'm gonna say here is that your only motive here Technical is to create controversy. You aren't deabting fighters, your not even trying to talk about boxing, your just using these forums as a personel rant zone to attack everyone who disagrees with you. Grow up man!
Dude, keep talking, your posts are just awful from start to finish, what kind of moron would suggest hatton winning more fights than mayweather means he deserves more money than maywweather for their fight? lol
- That was one of several reasons given
What kind of moron claimed Wladmir Klitschko has achived more in boxing than roy jones?
- I said by the end of his career he may
What kind of moron actually believe theres is a conspiracy on this forum to only discredit white boxers?
- I said there are a couple of racists among the hundreds of regular posters
Nice, you shot yourself in the foot after about two seconds.
Exibit one, Canada's Joe's reasoning for Wladimir Klitschko achieving more in boxing than roy jones.
1)Wlad has more KOs already
2)Wlad won Gold at the Olympics, Jones Silver
3)Wlad has always fearlessly fought the best opponents available, Jones was notorious for avoiding certain boxers
4)Wlad has been TKOed but never KOed, Jones has
5)Wlad is an intelligent man of good character
6)Wlad is only 31, some of his best wins are likely still to come!
Exibit two: Canada joe's conspiracies about black fighters.
But some people believe because Jones is black and American, he is therefore better than Wlad no matter what the facts are. They believe it is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
Lol, nice try at claiming you were misquoted tho.
You lost ALL crediblilty when you claimed mayweather wasnt a top 5 p4p fighter.
And then couldnt name your top 5 p4p. lol
Please.
:ugh:
lol, my credability is now suspect! So sayeth technical, so let it be written, so let it be done!
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Just to amuse you
My top five p4p
1. Paq
2. Wright
3. Hatton
4. Taylor
5. Calzaghe( if he beats Kessler, he moves to 2)
6. Mayweather
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