Mike Tyson Training Highlights, simply amazing display of ability

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two judges score it 6-4 thats close to a draw, point is (if you didnt get it) that if tyson fights so close with a journeyman he wasnt unstopable in the 80s as some say. I see your point brother. But "thee" first to ever "STOP" Mike Tyson was Buster Douglas in Japan of 1987, when he shocked the world by KOing Tyson in the 8th round. All an all, no one can ever deny that Tyson was a beast, and the most feared fighter on the planet. Few could match his skills at the tender age of 20 when he became "thee" youngest ever to hold the Heavy Weight Championship. That feat alone will cast him ballots straight into The International Boxing Hall of Fame. Behavior and media attention outside the ring will be irrelavent. Remember that tyson held ALL the major titles, each won seperately, one by one, Trevor (RIP) WBC, James "Bone Crusher" Smith, WBA, Michael Spinks (was undefeated!) IBF. No one was ever UNDISPUTED "and" UNDEFEATED at the same time. Lennox, Holyfield, Ali, did not Unify. For the record, when Buster Douglas beat Tyson, his camp did not pay sanctioning fees for the WBA and IBF, so in reality he won the World Boxing Council Heavy Weight Championship only to lose it 10 months later. Mike Tyson will be a first round ballot into the IBHOF.

im not disputing your point just disputing that he was unstopable Yes, and I agree with you. He burnt out to quickly to know for sure. His burning out was more from tragedy outside the ring, not inside, so I don't hold it to harshly against him based on what happened. It's kind of like Rocky Marciano: Marciano was tested, but not tested against "Prime/Elite" fighters, just like Mike. Although Spinks might/should be considered a better opponent considering he was younger and undefeated than Charles, Moore, and Walcott, all of which were much older, had been knocked out and defeated prior. That is if we count Rocky as a HW, not a LH/CW since if we are honest, despite Spinks being a HW Champion, he was a LH Champion prior (even though he was more of the size of a modern-cruiserweight)

I'm not fully convinced that his era he fought in was any good. Like, I still think that if he was in the ring with someone like lewis/holyfield in the 1980's in his so called "prime", I still think he would lose. It was kind of weak, especially if you consider who Ali was fighting. Not saying Mike couldn't beat who Ali beat, but that was a tough era. Both Ali and Foreman would of given Mike a hell of a fight, if not beat him, although they have their weaknesses as well. Spinks was his greatest victory on paper, but Mike even said he thought nothing of it. Spinks was a great accomplishment considering Spinks was one of the best LH of all time and had beaten Larry Holmes (although some say different). Spinks was undefeated, never been knocked out or knocked down going into the fight with Mike. You do have to give him a bit of credit for being the only man to knock Larry Homes out (even though Larry was past it), something nobody else did, including Holyfield and Mercer years later. If that was a "Prime" Larry Holmes, Mike would have had a lot more trouble, but I guess I will have to go off of what Atlas said, that Larry could be timed and hit with the right hand, something Mike did well at that point. Shavers landed, why not Mike. Mike was scheduled to fight Holyfield after a 5 fight European tour according to Kevin Rooney. Things went downhill, Mike got rid of Cayton and Rooney, and the fights did not come off, so it is not like Mike was avoiding Evander. With Holyfield back then: it would of been a good fight, but I think Tyson could beat him. With Rooney, Mike would of kept going to the body, using combinations, head-movement, etc., something he did not do much at all in his fights with Holy; although Holy was past it as well. He was also poorly conditioned after prison, not to mention even before with Douglas. We saw that Mike could hurt Evander to the body and we have seen Holyfield hurt before, so it is not like he cannot be beat either. He also had a very tough fight with Dokes; I think Mike would have been harder. Evander has a 32 inch waist, more of a LH/CW measurement than a HW. What does this mean, well if it is a measurement from a fighter that is in good condition, it means his frame is smaller and might not take the same amount as punishment as someone with a bigger frame, although I could be wrong. For Lewis: Lewis had his flaws as well, especially prior to being trained by Emanuel. We saw Bruno pressure Lewis and Lennox was having trouble, up until he caught Bruno with a bomb of a shot. I am not even sure anybody attacked Lewis's body like Mike could have done. Bigger guys can also be thrown off balance, something Mike be able to do. Lewis's main weapons were his jab, UPPERCUT, and right hand. I think Mike could get under his jab and hit Lewis with something awful, but he would have to be worried about Lewis's uppercut. Either opponent could beat Mike, but Mike could beat them as well, Peak vs. Peak. That's just my opinion. Toughest battle for Mike all time I tend to lean towards Foreamn; that man was a beast, with the style, power, heart, and chin to give Mike hell.

Not unstoppable, but please read my points. The key is watching how Tyson evolved with every fight. It is amazing seeing how fast he matures as a fighter, especially given how young he was. Even the sharpness of his punches got better in a short time period. This was still Mike Tyson, not "Iron" Mike Tyson. Just look at Joe Louis vs. Schmeling or Ali vs. Cooper... im not disputing your point just disputing that he was unstopable

two judges score it 6-4 thats close to a draw, point is (if you didnt get it) that if tyson fights so close with a journeyman he wasnt unstopable in the 80s as some say. Not unstoppable, but please read my points. The key is watching how Tyson evolved with every fight. It is amazing seeing how fast he matures as a fighter, especially given how young he was. Even the sharpness of his punches got better in a short time period. This was still Mike Tyson, not "Iron" Mike Tyson. Just look at Joe Louis vs. Schmeling or Ali vs. Cooper...

Quick Tillis was, at the time, the only one to ever take tyson passed the 3rd round, and "go the distance" with Tyson. You obviously do not understand what "UNSTOPABLE" means. Did Quick Tillis "STOP" Tyson????? Almost doesn't count......the bout ended with Tyson taking a Majority Decison, no where near your so called draw. two judges score it 6-4 thats close to a draw, point is (if you didnt get it) that if tyson fights so close with a journeyman he wasnt unstopable in the 80s as some say.

including tillis a journeyman who was one point away from a draw? no`one is unstoppable Quick Tillis was, at the time, the only one to ever take tyson passed the 3rd round, and "go the distance" with Tyson. You obviously do not understand what "UNSTOPABLE" means. Did Quick Tillis "STOP" Tyson????? Almost doesn't count......the bout ended with Tyson taking a Majority Decison, no where near your so called draw.

I also wonder if Tyson gets a cut of the DVDs these people are selling...that would suck if he didn't. Not sure if the videos slowed a bit because I put two of them on there, so just click on them individually to get to the youtube site just in case. Yep! This is the guy that we have defended when we argue with these characters claiming Lewis "destroys" Tyson at any point, ect. ect. BTW: What the hell did they do to Adagio For Strings?.. Blasphemy! :firedevil

The first vid is clips from 'Fallen Champ' .

He became a head hunter after the spinks fight, stopped going to the body and using his great head movement. He had the best head movement of any heavy weight in history, he should have never signed with don king and fired kevin rooney.

including tillis a journeyman who was one point away from a draw? no`one is unstoppable According to the reliable source that is boxing records: Judge: Bernie Friedkin 6-4 | Judge: Al Reid 6-4 | Judge: Tony Moret 8-2 ~ Tillis down in 4th. First: Mike was still learning and not as good as he would become. Mike was a quick study and progressed in such a short time that every fight was a learning experience and propelled his confidence. Mike early on was still not sure of himself and even switched to southpaw occasionally. According to both Rooney and Tyson, Mike was still unsure of himself up to this point because he had never went past a certain round, never went the distance. When Mike couldn't knock Tillis out early, and because Tillis continued to hold, Mike knew it would be a longer fight so he took some of the pressure off the gas pedal in order to make sure he could go the distance. After the 11th, he knew he had enough and this would boost his confidence to the next level. Remember how young Tyson was. In fact, even at 20 yeas old that by most standards is 5 or so yeas away from an athletic/physical/mental prime, unless we count certain sports like Tennis and Gymnastics. Was "Iron" Mike Tyson beatable at his peak, sure, he is human after all.

In the late 1980's.....IRON MIKE TYSON was invincible....UNSTOPABLE! Too quick, too strong for anybody. Yeah, that includes ALL those that got a "W" off the '90's Tyson. including tillis a journeyman who was one point away from a draw? no`one is unstoppable

I love this highlight video the most,probly the best of them all,it shows how fast he moved when he was younger,and the art of shadowboxing,how can a Heavyweight move that quik,he was amazing,sad video,the music goes perfect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjzceds2qTo offf topic but when mike is weaving in the first fight aint ducking a bit too low,like its not legal to duck under the opponents waaist? anyway incredibil speed

In the late 1980's.....IRON MIKE TYSON was invincible....UNSTOPABLE! Too quick, too strong for anybody. Yeah, that includes ALL those that got a "W" off the '90's Tyson.

I think he was way too emotional. He seemed to think really deep about everything. The look he has on his face after the Buster Douglas fight is about the most dissapointed you will ever see anybody. Also, Don King basically tried to take advantage of him and created the loud-mouth jerk that we knew in the latter stages of his career.

He wasted all of his money and got taken advantage by females. Wow, he is one smart cookie. :nonono: yes, true, but look through history and look at the person and you might see why. Many men, even "genius" level men have been taken advantage throughout the course of history, and by lesser men and women. Women hold a power over even the brightest, we call this PUSSY. Tyson was also said to be a nice person, very giving, despite the other side of ruthless behavior. This is the same person that seemingly wants to be loved and may hate what he has done in the past so he gives his money away to strangers. And he didn't lose everything, his kids are still set with millions.

He didn't ever have the intelligence to back it up with. I do not know him personally, but I will hold my judgment on that. Just think, Tyson had a criminal mind and despite being caught a bunch of times, he was supposed to be real good at it, even waiting until you know what he was going to do, just for his own kicks. The man supposedly has an Encyclopedia of knowledge in boxing history. There are people who have been alive a lot longer than him who are supposedly "Boxing Historians" that may not even compare. For athletics: he was able to train his mind to respond at such quick speed that I bet a person of "average" intelligence would not be able to do. You have to be able to think fast, anticipate what the opponent is going to do, dodge the punch, see the opening, and then respond all while keeping a close eye on incoming danger. When Tyson's mind was stimulated, it was something else. Tyson also admitted he is the type of person that when he accomplishes something, he wants/needs to move on, instead of just maintaning course. I think it has to do more with Cus D'amato dying to early and not completing Mike, as he was able to do with Floyd Patterson and Jose Torres. It seemed every time Mike was moving forward he took a shot: His mother, Cus, then Jacobs. Of course, other people have dealt with the same thing, maybe not at the level of exposure he had to, but it does at least serve as a possible reason. I also wonder if it wasn't "Team Tyson's" fault: Did the train Mike to think as a fighter or did they just make him into a high-powered auto response machine? Rooney said the commands, 5,7,9, and Mike did it. Although, if you notice it looks like Mike by the time he became champion did not need to rely on Rooney as much, but of course, he went downhill from poor training habits when he left Rooney. I would just like to know if they ever taught Mike how to think up a strategy on his own. For example, instead of telling him this is how you beat this guy, ask him, how and what would you do to beat this guy. It might have been that "Team Tyson" thought there was not enough time at that point to teach him everything, so they knew as long as someone like Rooney was around him to feed him the commands Mike would be OK. Even smart people, especially "Savants" have their faults that can prevent them from reaching their potential. It takes a great teacher, time, and stimulation of the brain in certain areas. Not saying Mike was a savant, but what I am saying is he may have been untrained and underdeveloped in such areas, but if he had the proper schooling he may have been even better all around. It is not like he comes from dumb stock, I hear his older brother is very smart.

I love this highlight video the most,probly the best of them all,it shows how fast he moved when he was younger,and the art of shadowboxing,how can a Heavyweight move that quik,he was amazing,sad video,the music goes perfect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjzceds2qTo

he was so dedicated in training that is how be became so good In my opinion. his dedication came from a need to be loved by d'mato this made him easily manipulated and turned into the 'phenom' he was! his ring intelligence was somewhat lacking i believe foreman was mo0re physically gifted but no where near as technically gifted!