Hatton is no John Ruiz...

Is Satori555 an alt for $iN? Same repeated hateful posts against Hatton, same hate on his avatar... People who hate Ricky Hatton are the most pathetic losers on earth. It amazes me that some people spend so much time hating on certain boxers. Fighters like Hatton who go in the ring and take hard punches from their opponents are the most courageous people in sports! The people who hate them are cowardly slimebags who wouldn't have the balls to fight in a ring. I used to love Ricky and I still watch his fights, obviously, but if you do not criticize the parts you don't like then that fighter will never change. For instance, we all know that Hatton reads forums because he's jokingly refered to himself as Fatton, as they do on the forums; he even said he read it there and thought it was funny. Maybe if we all ban together and ask him to stop clinching and fight cleanly he'll listen to the fans and do so (and give us more exciting fights by doing so). Look at both Castillo-Corales fights. They fought on the inside for almost every minute of every round and there were ZERO clinches in both fights. Why would Castillo clinch now? It's obvious that it was Hatton doing the holding. Ricky is a great guy and anyone who listens to an interview or meets the guy and still hates him is biased for some other reason. You cannot listen to him and hate him unless you dislike him for some other reason. However, I still believe that his last two fights had too much holding and hugging. Ricky, if you read this, please stop tying up the other fighters and fight against them when on the inside.

Hatton beat another legend, get over it...

yes but he cheats to accomplish his goals. are we supposed to give cheaters credit? i give him credit for being a good cheater i guess you could say. does that count? im british i totaly agree with your post, i dont see how anyone cannot agree unless they are in denial. this is boxing not wrestling, this is why i cant give him credit for his win over zoo either. plus that devastating low blow was just a disgrace.

i just watched the 1st round again, and i counted hatton clinching at least 15 times. cortez should have taken points away but instead he took 1 away for a boarder line punch from castillo.

yes but he cheats to accomplish his goals. are we supposed to give cheaters credit? i give him credit for being a good cheater i guess you could say. does that count? Why has he never been disqualified then? Why does he rarely ever even lose points? Bending the rules and getting the win from it is the mark of a pretty clever guy as far as I'm concerned. Many great boxers over the years have done exactly the same.

I don't think I've ever seen any boxing analysis from some of the guys on this thread - they spend their lives writing one line replies that suggest they either are still in education with some way to go, or they spurned opportunities to improve themselves and are now a bunch of frustrated peons.

one word to describe all the hatton fans DENIAL Thats hilarious coming from someone who refuses to give a 43 fight undefeated two weight multi-champ any credit for always winning and never losing.

I think Lederman basically did half of the analysis. he notes correctly Hatton throwing 2 or 3 hooks then getting very close to Castillo, pushing his weight against him, as Steward also previously noted. However, he then left it at that taking the halfassed view that Hatton was simply holding castillo. Actually Castillo was uncomfortable being pushed around and clinched as well since he's used to doing the pushing himself. Thats why Hatton was actively working to get out of the clinches with hooks to the body and head. So yes, Hatton swarms/smothers opponents, but hit and hold is a gross simplification on Lederman's part IMO.

He's the hookin' hugger or the leapin' hugger, whichever you prefer. I prefer the fact that he is one of the most effective swarming in-fighters currently in the world of boxing.

Hatton is quick. Hatton has real skills. Hatton is strong. Hatton is an exciting fighter. Hatton is one of my favorite fighters...almost. Now only if Hatton doesn't clinch that much. It's getting more irritating and he's getting better with clinching with each fight. Hatton is not as quick as you make him out to be. He's quicker than Castillo and Urango, who've never been known for their speed, but he was slower than Collazo, who's speed is just slightly above average. He used to be an exciting fighter but he's been huggin' for dear life since the Collazo fight. Maybe the beating he took against Collazo affected him psychologically? I'm not entirely sure that some of you guys even know what clinching/holding/hugging really is. Hatton is a swarmer, he fights close because he is confident that he can generate more and cleaner power from short punches than his opponent can. He can work better within a smaller space. He is a very very good inside fighter...Castillo is/was as well. In that fight, Hatton did not clinch (ie hold on) to Castillo anymore than Castillo did to him. Furthermore he didnt hug or hold nor even tie Castillo's arms up very much either. If you watch the fight, its much more often that its Castillo's arms that are curling around Hatton's and Hatton who then gets the next punch in by dropping and untying his arms. You cannot produce as much of a work-rate and punch-rate as Hatton does/did if you are holding on and clinching all the time...as evidenced by the fact that Castillo threw and landed nowhere near as many punches. Use a bit of brain guys. Did you even see the Compubox numbers? Hatton was credited with landing 81 of 220 punches (37 percent), according to CompuBox statistics. Castillo landed just 58 of 192 (30 percent). Castillo was able to throw some punches but as soon as Ricky would connect a punch or two (and get hit himself), he'd leap in with a hook and hold with his right hand. Please watch the fight again and you will see that Ricky does exactly that. He's the hookin' hugger or the leapin' hugger, whichever you prefer.

I'm not entirely sure that some of you guys even know what clinching/holding/hugging really is. Hatton is a swarmer, he fights close because he is confident that he can generate more and cleaner power from short punches than his opponent can. He can work better within a smaller space. He is a very very good inside fighter...Castillo is/was as well. In that fight, Hatton did not clinch (ie hold on) to Castillo anymore than Castillo did to him. Furthermore he didnt hug or hold nor even tie Castillo's arms up very much either. If you watch the fight, its much more often that its Castillo's arms that are curling around Hatton's and Hatton who then gets the next punch in by dropping and untying his arms. You cannot produce as much of a work-rate and punch-rate as Hatton does/did if you are holding on and clinching all the time...as evidenced by the fact that Castillo threw and landed nowhere near as many punches. Use a bit of brain guys. Some people just hate Hatton because he is white and European. It's impossible to look past that simple fact now.

I'm not entirely sure that some of you guys even know what clinching/holding/hugging really is. Hatton is a swarmer, he fights close because he is confident that he can generate more and cleaner power from short punches than his opponent can. He can work better within a smaller space. He is a very very good inside fighter...Castillo is/was as well. In that fight, Hatton did not clinch (ie hold on) to Castillo anymore than Castillo did to him. Furthermore he didnt hug or hold nor even tie Castillo's arms up very much either. If you watch the fight, its much more often that its Castillo's arms that are curling around Hatton's and Hatton who then gets the next punch in by dropping and untying his arms. You cannot produce as much of a work-rate and punch-rate as Hatton does/did if you are holding on and clinching all the time...as evidenced by the fact that Castillo threw and landed nowhere near as many punches. Use a bit of brain guys.

...Ruiz actually fought between hugs. I was amazed at the amount of clinches Hatton got away with against Castillo. I don't want to take away from his performance (I think Castillo could've continued but chose not to) but his style is not really that crowd-pleasing any more. As Max Kellerman said, he's the hooking-hugger. His style is taylor-made for someone like Malignaggi or PBF. A good boxer with a good jab will give Hatton his first L. at the time of stopage hatton had landed around 90 punches, so he must've been doing somethin apart from holding.

Castillo clinched just as often as Hatton in the fight. be real hatton tied castillo up every time they got close. or right after he got a couple of punches off.

yes this illegal style is getting out of control when are penalties gonna come down is what i'd like to know mills lane would not allow that to happen. to bad he retired

Hatton is quick. Hatton has real skills. Hatton is strong. Hatton is an exciting fighter. Hatton is one of my favorite fighters...almost. Now only if Hatton doesn't clinch that much. It's getting more irritating and he's getting better with clinching with each fight. thats exactly how i feel. hatton definitely has skills but he holds too damn much. after every punch. against castillo not only was he hugging too much he was holding his arms so that he couldnt punch. this in my opinion is getting out of control.

Hatton is quick. Hatton has real skills. Hatton is strong. Hatton is an exciting fighter. Hatton is one of my favorite fighters...almost. Now only if Hatton doesn't clinch that much. It's getting more irritating and he's getting better with clinching with each fight.

oh shutup. that was an exciting fight from round 2 on, and Hatton fights twice as hard as Ruiz Actually, I didn't think so. I thought Hatton was holding too much and Cortez wasn't being fair. He warned Ricky repeatedly for holding behind the head and pushing the head down but deducted a point after only one warning to Castillo (on a punch that was on the beltline, not even low). That's not to take away from what Ricky did. I thought Castillo would wear him down and TKO him by 10 and I was wrong. However, that doesn't mean that the style that Hatton fought was crowd pleasing in any way. I kept yelling at the screen for Hatton to quit hookin' and huggin'. Castillo gave up, in my mind, and Hatton probably gave him good reason to. That said, I don't think Hatton can beat a boxer, or at least a fighter who's a good jabber.

Oh and Castillo would lose this fight 10 out of 10. He even made Hatton look good, imagine that. I favor a law to ban shot fighters out of the sport. They are just trying to cash their last checks but you don't see that in other sports.. For instance if you put a bum in a mma bout he would very likely be injured for life and huge bad publicity would come to the sport. It's rare a good fight pass the 2nd round, a bum never lasts more than 30 seconds. In boxing they can put in any vet and he will still make 8 rounds against a contender. First of all, you can't tell if a fighter is shot or not. There are some days with bad performances, and others with opponents that make you look bad. And if a fighter actually is shot, you won't know before he indeed fights. It makes no sense to compare an aging Castillo, or any champions for that matter, with a bum in MMA. A bum would get hurt in a boxing match too. There is no such thing as a champion bum in the sport of boxing, so the statement you made doesn't really put you in a good light. "In boxing they can put in any vet and he will still make 8 rounds against a contender." A veteran, yes. A bum, no. If an old, shot veteran is able to go 8 rounds with a contender, that tells you one of two things; The vet is/was very very good, or, the contender really isn't all that. Your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And when it comes to one last paycheck, I'm pretty sure you think the same way when your girl leaves you..?

Hatton is allowed to clinch agaunst guys that don't snap out a jab to combat it. He had that same trouble when Collazo kept hiom at bay. Guys like Paulie will either keep him off with the jab or make him get deductions. It looks much worse when you clinch a boxer.