The majority of Klitschko fans are annoying in my opinion

They do not give credit when it is due. Brewster took everything Wlad had to offer and outgutted him. Just like Foreman did vs. Moorer. Imagine Wlad had done that, they'd be like "biggest heart, awesome chin, determination, best ever, yadda yadda". Cannot wait for Brewster to knock out Klitschko AGAIN. The man has Wlad's number. And in my view Klitschko did not improve at all, he just holds even more (and man, how often he was warned about that by Robert Byrd) and fights limited opposition. So.........what happened? Did you catch the fight? Maybe you can let me know how it went in case I missed it. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

the talent is there, the right fights just aren't being made, it would be alot easier if the sanctioning bodies would rank eachother's champions. The sports writers do not like boxing to cover anymore because the USA aint dominate now...Who knows what could have / would have happened if the Soviet countries were not controled by Russia since the dawn of time?? If the East Euros/Soviet block Eorpean countries had our freedom, they may have been at the top ( or maybe not ? ) :banana:

Klitschko, Peter, Klitschko, Chagaev is a foursome that could compete in any era. Haters deal with whatever problems you have somewhere else. You don't like these guys for being foreigners or whatever, or because there's no mass media hype for them?

Well, there's no sense in debating this. I like the heavyweight division and believe there's some excellent talent there, you disagree. But I will never convince you otherwise, and you will never convince me otherwise. I enjoy watching Povetkin, Chagaev, Ibragimov and Klitschko so much I can hardly wait until their next fights. I am very interested in seeing how some of these Eurasian heavyweights do in the next couple of years, and my feeling is they will exceed many people's expectations. Don't get me wrong, I like the HW division, the fact that there aren't any stand out fighters destined for greatness makes it competitive and a potential Vitali/Peter fight excites me almost as much as any other fight that can be made over the next 12 months.

Young Oleg Platov (who's generally regarded as not quite as good as Chagaev, Povetkin, and Ibragimov) defeated Akinwande in December, and he's fighting him again on June 30. As far as Povetkin is concerned, when you consider his amateur record - one of the best of all time - and his winning so spectacularly in his first 12 fights against fairly decent opponents - he's miles ahead of where Hide and Akinwande were at age 27. Ibragimov and Chagaev have both defeated several much bigger men. If Hide was a better champion then they are, then why did he do so poorly against the bigger heavyweights? You underestimate Sultan and Ruslan, they are far better titleholders than Hide, and will continue to prove to be true champions in the months and years to come. I hope you don't mean Briggs, Whitaker, Calloway and Valuev as the 'bigger' men to have been defeated by Chagaev and Ibragimov. Hide lost to Bowe and Klitschko two fighters with size AND skill. I just think todays HW champions are an indictment of the poor standards in the HW division.

They do not give credit when it is due. Brewster took everything Wlad had to offer and outgutted him. Just like Foreman did vs. Moorer. Imagine Wlad had done that, they'd be like "biggest heart, awesome chin, determination, best ever, yadda yadda". Cannot wait for Brewster to knock out Klitschko AGAIN. The man has Wlad's number. And in my view Klitschko did not improve at all, he just holds even more (and man, how often he was warned about that by Robert Byrd) and fights limited opposition. The truth be TOLD Mr Bobby.. Klitschko Fan Boys are no more or Less Annoying Than anybody else's Fan Boys.. The Key is.. Most "Boxing Fans" are in Fact Fan Boys of ONE or Few particular Fighters.. Fan Boys are Not the same animal as Boxing Fans I am a Boxing FAN.. and Wlad Klitschko is My Favorite Fighter I will never say the Guy is without his faults.. I know NO perfect Fighter.. The closest I have seen is Floyd.. and even he is Not flawless.. But I will defend Him against those Who rate him on 3 Losses rather than 48 wins..

Have you seen the Herbie Hide-Vitali Klitschko fight? It's on YouTube. Vitali destroyed him and he's never been the same since. Ibragimov, Chagaev, and Povetkin are all better than Hide and Akinwande too. His performance against Klitschko was down to the fact that he was not a natural HW. He struggled big time with 17 stone+ fighters, first with Bowe and then Vitali. Against Ibragimov, Maskaev and Chageav, he has no trouble at all and knocks out the first two whilst beating Ruslan on points. As for Akinwande, he was always an awkward HW with only 3 losses. Povetkin has proved NOTHING with regards to his credentials as a potential HW champion.

We'll see what happens on July 7. I have a lot of respect for Brewster, but I'll wager 10,000 points that Wlad will win. Wlad haters are annoying. They never give Wlad credit when he wins, and will change their tune from "Brewster has Wlad's number" and "Brewster will knock him out again" to "Brewster was over the hill" or "Brewster was shot" after Wlad wins this one. No matter who he defeats or how spectacularly he wins, he'll never be given credit by the haters. But most boxing writers and fans recognize Wlad as the best heavyweight! ....That's what makes the haters look like true nimrods and jackasses.

They do not give credit when it is due. Brewster took everything Wlad had to offer and outgutted him. Just like Foreman did vs. Moorer. Imagine Wlad had done that, they'd be like "biggest heart, awesome chin, determination, best ever, yadda yadda". Cannot wait for Brewster to knock out Klitschko AGAIN. The man has Wlad's number. And in my view Klitschko did not improve at all, he just holds even more (and man, how often he was warned about that by Robert Byrd) and fights limited opposition. ....Nonsense from one of the board morons. Wlad will crush Brew and only an idiot can't see that. End of.

Any why to you think so? It's better now than it was a few years ago when Akinwande and Hide had titles (I stopped watching it for a few years). We're rid of the last really bad titleholder now that Briggs is gone. I think it counts for as much as it ever has! And it is improving, because people like Wlad and Ibragimov are making it worth watching again. These are men of good character, they don't do retarded stuff like bite off their opponents ears! If only some of those fat old guys like Rahman and Toney would retire, it would be even better. Do you think Akinwande and Hide are poorer than then the current WBC, WBA and WBO champions? I don't. Maskaev is the worst champion since Michael Bentt.

Anything can happen in a fight in a given night. Ali was saved from a KO by the bell when he fought Cooper in 1963, and Lewis lost to Schmeling. Tyson lost to Douglas, who wasn't IMO better than Brewster or Sanders (neither of which are "nobodies"). Wlad haters focus on those 3 losses and ignore his 48 wins and 43 KOs - they seem to be unable to have a fair and balanced opinion of Wlad. By the way, Wlad would destroy Ruiz. And although it is true that Valuev wasn't a good titleholder, he's now been replaced by a much faster and more exciting fighter, Ruslan Chagaev. I notice though, with each win Wlad receives less criticism and more respect. A couple of years ago Wlad was much more frequently ridiculed in this forum. Yes, anything can happen on any given sunday. And yeah, he would destroy Ruiz. But that doesn't mean Ruiz won't be considered a top 5 trash can. I'm not a Wlad hater, far from it. He's been my favorite heavy since back in 2001. But those 48 wins.. The 5 best wins of Wlad is Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, old Chris Byrd, McCline and Chris Byrd younger. He needs to step up the competition... But there's no step further up, is there? The division, as it is right now, is nothing but a joke.

Like I said, Wlad doesn't bite off his opponents' ears. The heavyweight division reached it's lowest point and lost credibility with the general public when Tyson did that, but now it is starting to come back, because of all the talented fighters from the former Soviet republics! Yes, I agree. But it's difficult to explain to people why the supposed best heavyweight loses to not only one, but TWO "nobodies". In devastating fashion even. And at the same time, a giant two-legged turtle named Valuev comes along and actually captures a title. How much worse can it get? Wait for it, John Ruiz comes back from retirement and will probably be considered top 5! Jesus H Christ, help us :D

I'm sorry, I did only see the first sentences in each paragraph, so I didn't see your reasoning..

If Brewster wins, there comes another Russian with a better chin and points him to a UD 12. So I'm rooting for Wlad.

Any why to you think so? It's better now than it was a few years ago when Akinwande and Hide had titles (I stopped watching it for a few years). We're rid of the last really bad titleholder now that Briggs is gone. I think it counts for as much as it ever has! And it is improving, because people like Wlad and Ibragimov make it worth watching again. If only some of those fat old guys like Rahman and Toney would retire, it would be even better. Do you? Really? If the competition sucks, there's no need to be really proud that you are slightly better. I won the national championship 1 year after I started boxing. All fights by KO in the 1 round. But that doesn't count for much when the opposition can't fight for shit, at least not in my opinion. The heavyweight division now is laughably bad. If George Foreman and Larry Holmes were to make another comeback, they would probably be top 10... When most of the fighters in the division are fat and unable to throw more than 20 punches for a maximum of 5 rounds, I'd say there's something fundamentally wrong. No, Klitschko ain't fat, but that's beside my point. Point is, if you're the sweetest guy of all the people sentenced to death, that doesn't count for very much.

the talent is there, the right fights just aren't being made, it would be alot easier if the sanctioning bodies would rank eachother's champions.

yeah i know, this eras nearly as weak as the 1986-1990 period...... Trying to pull a cheap-shot, are we? :D At the very least there was a dominant fuckwit back then.

The best heavyweight doesn't count for alot now, does it? yeah i know, this eras nearly as weak as the 1986-1990 period......

He has wlad's number? that's a pile of bullshit, he was being used as a punching bag up until the 5th round, this time wlad will be more cautious and not gas out, and he will knock brewster's dodgy eye into the back of his head.

The best heavyweight doesn't count for alot now, does it?