Am I the only one who feels like Cotto is a good fighter "but" theres always a "but" in him. He's the only elite fighter who I always feel this way about. Everytime he has a somewhat big fight I always says that if he wins this fight a certain way then I will give him total credit and acknowledge him as a monster. Then when you watch the fight, he looks good, he wins, he's exciting, "but" you always come away feeling that something is missing. He either is in some controversey or he got rocked, or he did some dirty stuff. Basically, in nearly all of his big fights you come away feeling that his opponent still couldve won if something had just went a little different.
I will give him credit because he is clearly a elite fighter but I still dont give him the full credit that he "may" deserve because to me there is just something missing in his performances. It always seems like he's just a step away from getting completely exposed and maybe even completely dominated. His next fight will tell the world everything they need to know. Its a slight chance it could be Floyd but even if its just the Williams-Margarito winner then you will really know where he stands. Maybe even if he could man up and fight a Mosley or Clottey. All 5 of those guys are fighters who are on the top of there games, are all mentally tough, and will bring the real. Williams may not fit in that catagory but if he beats Margarito then he will. I hope Cotto definatly fights one of those guys next and doesnt completely switch and take a easy fight. I dont even want to see a Hatton fight. I want to see him against one of those top 147 pounders because I still see him right behind all of them and Cintron. He's more skilled then Cintron but he's been rocked too much for me to think Cintron wont take his head off
I see what you're saying and if you come to think about it most if not all elite fighters have the same problem. How many "buts" havent' we heard from PBF (great but not winning impressively), Calzaghe (elite but hasn't been really tested, Lacy was overrated), Marquez (crazy power but has been dropped so he has a questionable chin) and many others. Elite fighters find ways to win, and that Cotto did against a guy who hit harder, was faster, a southpaw, had better experience in big fights and a better boxer. "Buts" don't mean shit.
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I watched the fight 2 times and i didnt say any chicken dance from cotto this time...and as the fight progressed judah landed some shots that cotto just ate and walked thru. What i see in cotto is a tremendous heart and will to win. He is relentless. He attacked judahs body..and when u watch again i believe in round 6 a left hook landed to Zabs ribs and if you pause it and look at Zabs face he was clearly in pain when it landed. Someone else wrote that floyd took all of Zabs shots and didnt flinch. I remember floy'd actually putting his glove on the canvas that fight and it wasnt scored a Knock Down. The point is that He gets hit alot and keeps coming he doesnt go running around the ring pitter pattering you to death...this is what the fight fans need and boxing needs, more fighters. Its more than just the paycheck. He has a cut on the eyebrow..huge gash on his lip straight thru and doest complain just keeps going to work. There is no
"But" with me you can throw a "But" with every fighter. Take it for what it is he WINS..
I have come to the conclusion that no matter what a Puerto Rican fighter does, he will not get credit;"but" a flash in the pan like alan greene comes back to ko the white boy who almost ended his career prematurely and he gets mad props. Biased fucks
There is a huge difference. Greene is a good little solid fighter and thats it. No one ever thinks he can be great and no one ever compares him to greatness. We judge Cotto hard because more is expected of him. Alot of people think he has the tools to be the elite. No one would pick Green over a guy like Hopkins but there will be alot who would pick Cotto over the P4P best in Mayweather. Thats why you have to judge him differently.
Its not a PR thing. Alot of people loved Tito. Even Tito seemed different. He was different because he was clearly flawed but no one even cared because he would stop elite guys. Also, Tito's chin seems better to me. Tito got dropped all the time but he never looked hurt. He never look dazed or anything. He would just go down and get right back up like nothing. I pretty much think thats better then seeing Cotto lose his legs on every big punch and look punch drunk at times. Tito's KD's are like Zab's was against Spinks. When Spinks dropped Zab you knew he wasnt hurt at all but when Zab would hit Spinks he would always get hurt even when he didnt go down
I have come to the conclusion that no matter what a Puerto Rican fighter does, he will not get credit;"but" a flash in the pan like alan greene comes back to ko the white boy who almost ended his career prematurely and he gets mad props. Biased fucks
Man you are hard to please. Cotto has dominated every single one of his opponents. Sure hes had rough patches in those fights, but overall they were dominating performances. In the three fights he got rocked in he knocked his opponent down a total of 11 times. 11 times! (two in the Corley fight werent credited)
I know and thats the problem. Its good "but".........
Remember, Im talking about the elite. I will pick him all day against most guys but when Im questioning him, its about against guys like Floyd, Shane, Margarito, Clottey, and so on. When he gets in with one of them then will he win, will he just lose, or will he get completely exposed? I dont mind him losing to one of them but Im just scared that he could get totally dominated. I dont know if it will happened but I wouldnt be shocked either. I would be shocked to see those other guys get dominated except for maybe Floyd just boxing Margarito's ears off. I wouldnt mind seeing a battle of the young guys between Cotto & Cintron. That would be a war
Man you are hard to please. Cotto has dominated every single one of his opponents. Sure hes had rough patches in those fights, but overall they were dominating performances. In the three fights he got rocked in he knocked his opponent down a total of 11 times. 11 times! (two in the Corley fight werent credited)
I wont give him too much heat for being rocked by Zab because Im the one who always says that a punch from a lefty can pretty much rock anyone and they hurt way more because you cant see them coming or you can see them, have a good D, and still cant block it
I think having a victory and a but is better than loosing and saying "he could have one if...." I don't think he has that bad of a chin. He took some good shots and didn't go down. His style just leaves him open to walk into shots, which always hurts more. Plus with Zabs speed, power, and style, it doesn't seem too bad. Zab KD Mayweather, but not Cotto.
There are holes in Cotto's game but he's joined the ranks of elite fighters with this win.
I think having a victory and a but is better than loosing and saying "he could have one if...." I don't think he has that bad of a chin. He took some good shots and didn't go down. His style just leaves him open to walk into shots, which always hurts more. Plus with Zabs speed, power, and style, it doesn't seem too bad. Zab KD Mayweather, but not Cotto.
I understand what you're saying, I also thought he was going to get knocked out, But it got me thinking, is his chin just real weak, or is he taking a real hard flushed shot and not going down? We can debate if his getting hurt by a light punch, or a hard flushed shot that someone else would've been knocked down. That's the mystery part for me. Is he getting rocked by a simple punch, or a punch anyone else wouldve been droped with, so if the best solid shot lands on him and all he does is gets dazed but doesnt go down, then he has a good chin. I wont put a but on him because the way he fights who wont get hit? you rather he fights like spinks who barely gets hit, or the way cotto fights, gets hits, gets dazed and comeback to dish out punishment? Hmnnnnnnnn thats the real but for you and me.
I dont know man, he's been rocked a bunch of times. You have to give him credit for not going down but he definatly hasnt faced enough elite guys to be getting rocked in nearly every fight and sometimes it happeneds multiple times. Either he has a weak chin or his D completely sucks. Either way its not a good thing. People try to say that its not weak because if it was then he would be going down but thats garbage. Ive seen guys like Floyd, Winky, X, and many others get hit with a ton of big shots and 99% of the time it never fazes them. They might get stood up but they never wobble or look completely dazed. If it happened once or twice then I would give him the benefit but its happened pretty often.
Besides, what did all his supporters say? They said that it was just a weight issue and he wont be so easy to get rocked at 147. He's still getting rocked. I saw Zab hit Floyd clean a bunch and Baldy but they never flinched. Even Tszyu got hit hard by Zab a bunch of times in round 1 but he never wobbled. Im just saying that if he fights any of the top guys at 147 then that will be his realist test because pretty much all of them can pop and are mentally tough
I understand what you're saying, I also thought he was going to get knocked out, But it got me thinking, is his chin just real weak, or is he taking a real hard flushed shot and not going down? We can debate if his getting hurt by a light punch, or a hard flushed shot that someone else would've been knocked down. That's the mystery part for me. Is he getting rocked by a simple punch, or a punch anyone else wouldve been droped with, so if the best solid shot lands on him and all he does is gets dazed but doesnt go down, then he has a good chin. I wont put a but on him because the way he fights who wont get hit? you rather he fights like spinks who barely gets hit, or the way cotto fights, gets hits, gets dazed and comeback to dish out punishment? Hmnnnnnnnn thats the real but for you and me.