I've spent more time on Zab Judah the last few months than I had ever dreamed (or hoped).
Because of what's at stake for many of us - I've done my research.
Based on my findings; I believe Judah's concentrative and emotional weakness is having his 'daddy' Yoel in his corner, and his professional life.
Yoel is the man in Zab's life. You can see it when they're together.
If Zab had broken away from his father years ago I have no doubt his handlers and Judah himself would have kept him to a higher standard of maturity and professionalism.
His episodes, his breakdowns, his crackups - all would have been met with harsh, misunderstanding, non-tolerance and Judah would have taken off the diapers a long fucking time ago.
The relationship is a beautiful one.. I admire the closeness and loyalty - but it has been the WORST thing for Zab Judah that his father has been the man giving him advice and protection all these years.
He needed someone to be more honest with him..
So he could be more honest with himself.
Then go to the betting forums and bet me 10k of your points. Why are you afraid to bet on the forums over measily points? Afraid if you're wrong then you look bad? Were not all right all the time. And this is one of those 50/50 fights that it can go either way. Scared?
ill bet 10g on judah
pm me if your down
That's not the half of it.
I have many more bets on Judah. There's just no room for them..
Judah is going to win, playboy.
Have no fear.
Damn right addi!
:banana:
addison I agree with you 100 percent! I have long said the same thing to other people about Zab. He gets rattled in his corner when his father starts going off with his instructions. how can a fighter maintain focus when his corner man is foaming at the mouth between bells.
Zab's a grat fighter with I believe all the natual ability and talent in the world. He appears to ne to lack as been said before disipline and concentration. He fought Mayweather unbelievably well then appeared to run out of gas. Talent wise I would pick Zab over Cotto in this fight. Unfortunately because of his previous history in later rounds and suspect chin I see this as a pick-em fight where a win scenerio can be made for either fighter. This is what boxing should be all about and what will make this fight at least on paper exciting. I for one can't wait to see it
I Think Judah Has Whay It Takes To Win And Will Win B/c He Knows That This Is Relatively His Last Chance. Whether You Cotto Fans Admit It Or Not Miguel Has Not Face The Skill And Athleticism That He Will Encounter On Saturday
I've spent more time on Zab Judah the last few months than I had ever dreamed (or hoped).
Because of what's at stake for many of us - I've done my research.
Based on my findings; I believe Judah's concentrative and emotional weakness is having his 'daddy' Yoel in his corner, and his professional life.
Yoel is the man in Zab's life. You can see it when they're together.
If Zab had broken away from his father years ago I have no doubt his handlers and Judah himself would have kept him to a higher standard of maturity and professionalism.
His episodes, his breakdowns, his crackups - all would have been met with harsh, misunderstanding, non-tolerance and Judah would have taken off the diapers a long fucking time ago.
The relationship is a beautiful one.. I admire the closeness and loyalty - but it has been the WORST thing for Zab Judah that his father has been the man giving him advice and protection all these years.
He needed someone to be more honest with him..
So he could be more honest with himself.
Thanks Dr. Melfi
I think they are more like bother's than father and son. I can't say whether its a good thing or a bad one. I'd rather have my father in my corner than anyone else, though
I disagree there, I think Tito's dad pretty much killed his career in many aspects and so did SSM for a while, he seems to be doing better now. In Zab's case, if you listen closely to what his Dad tells him it makes sense, Zab is a pig headed bastard and doesn't follow instructions. You can tell Zab respects his Dad/trainer though, not sure if he would respect anyone else other than Tyson.
I was slicing onions.
The direction I went was based on the emotional independance and maturity aspect of the father-son dynamic.
Tito carried himself like a man from a very young age..
I think Judah still acts like a teen in the presence of his father.
The mental and emotional breakdowns of Zab Judah in no way compare to the behavior of a Felix Trinidad or Shane Mosley. :no:
Their fathers may have coddled them all the same - but they didn't lose fights because of tantrums or childishness - they lost because they got beat.
The didn't beat themselves the way Judah does.
That was the point. :fing02:
It's a different dynamic.
Although, I see how you could percieve a different relation..
At the same time I don't think De La Hoya, Jones Jr, Trinidad, or other men - who at different points worked directly with 'papa' were limited by the association.
They could still be independant.
Zab....... Well, I'm not even sure Zab could fight without 'daddy' there..
I'll GUARANTEE Zab has acted out more in all of his famous episodes because he was in that comfort zone with Yoel there.
Gurantee it!
I remember that crutch... I was a little shit when my dad coached my hockey team growing up... I was a little fucking menace. :lol1:
I disagree there, I think Tito's dad pretty much killed his career in many aspects and so did SSM for a while, he seems to be doing better now. In Zab's case, if you listen closely to what his Dad tells him it makes sense, Zab is a pig headed bastard and doesn't follow instructions. You can tell Zab respects his Dad/trainer though, not sure if he would respect anyone else other than Tyson.
Zabs papa also probably keeps him in line in a lot of ways other trainers couldnt geta away with, we probably don't see that but I also think Zab could have benefited from a top tier trainier that wouldnt wipe his ass for him when he acted out.
Reasons Im pulling for Cotto: He still seems to be improving, there are a lot of very interesting match-ups out there for him, he's a throwback in the fact he's willing to go to the basement as a way to actually get a guy out of there, he seems to be a genuinely class act guy in and out of the ring, i hate listening to fighters who talk all day long about they're the best and what they will do to their opponents blah blah! you wont see that from Cotto, the kids got heart and has come back from some scarey moments in the square circle, last but not least Zab is one guy that gets under my skin maybe as bad as mayweather. He talks a lot of smack but cant back it up so I would love to see those gold/platinum teeth of his knocked into the upper deck. And as long as Zab looks good in this fight even losing he should still be able to get some big fights in the future, what about joshua clottey or kermit cintron or margarito and isnt zab a small enough guy that he should be able to step back to the 140 pound division to take on the likes of harris, hatton?
That had me rolling.. :lol1:
Zabs papa also probably keeps him in line in a lot of ways other trainers couldnt geta away with, we probably don't see that but I also think Zab could have benefited from a top tier trainier that wouldnt wipe his ass for him when he acted out.
Reasons Im pulling for Cotto: He still seems to be improving, there are a lot of very interesting match-ups out there for him, he's a throwback in the fact he's willing to go to the basement as a way to actually get a guy out of there, he seems to be a genuinely class act guy in and out of the ring, i hate listening to fighters who talk all day long about they're the best and what they will do to their opponents blah blah! you wont see that from Cotto, the kids got heart and has come back from some scarey moments in the square circle, last but not least Zab is one guy that gets under my skin maybe as bad as mayweather. He talks a lot of smack but cant back it up so I would love to see those gold/platinum teeth of his knocked into the upper deck. And as long as Zab looks good in this fight even losing he should still be able to get some big fights in the future, what about joshua clottey or kermit cintron or margarito and isnt zab a small enough guy that he should be able to step back to the 140 pound division to take on the likes of harris, hatton?
At the same time I don't think De La Hoya, Jones Jr, Trinidad, or other men - who at different points worked directly with 'papa' were limited by the association.
They could still be independant.
Zab....... Well, I'm not even sure Zab could fight without 'daddy' there..
I'll GUARANTEE Zab has acted out more in all of his famous episodes because he was in that comfort zone with Yoel there.
Gurantee it!
I remember that crutch... I was a little shit when my dad coached my hockey team growing up... I was a little fucking menace. :lol1:
good point i've been saying they need to break cause zab don't even listen it's that cozy shit that he will never even be push in sparring without it cut early... if it turns it to a war zab done... maybe he will blow him out though
50,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with ll cool J
19,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with gerardofpr
5,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with The Raging Bull
10,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with freedom213
50,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with The Hoff
20,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with Kingroy
That's not the half of it.
I have many more bets on Judah. There's just no room for them..
Judah is going to win, playboy.
Have no fear.
50,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with ll cool J
19,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with gerardofpr
5,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with The Raging Bull
10,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with freedom213
50,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with The Hoff
20,000 on Zab Judah over Miguel Cotto with Kingroy
At the same time I don't think De La Hoya, Jones Jr, Trinidad, or other men - who at different points worked directly with 'papa' were limited by the association.
They could still be independant.
Zab....... Well, I'm not even sure Zab could fight without 'daddy' there..
I'll GUARANTEE Zab has acted out more in all of his famous episodes because he was in that comfort zone with Yoel there.
Gurantee it!
I remember that crutch... I was a little shit when my dad coached my hockey team growing up... I was a little fucking menace. :lol1: