Why can't 'muscled' boxers win?

http://www.neghvar.de/DB-Z-GT/cell%20saga/allgemein/trunks%20vs.%20cell.jpg Trunks gets so much bigger with his muscles, the main reason he cant hit Cell. And his youth.MENTALLY.

muscles use oxygen. The more muscle mass you have, the more oxygen you need to take in to feed them. Also think about how you can generate a hard punch....it has to be thrown fast with a lot of weight behind it. The more bulky you are, the more inflexible and slower your punches will be...this will take the force out of them... Boxers are not and should not be bodybuilders. If they are, they invaribly turn into wheezing, plodding, muscle heads who get KO'd. You have to fight at your optimum weight. You could force your body to put on muscle to add weight...but will it benefit you? I doubt it. 1. This is true, you do need more blood and oxygen to feed the larger muscles, but what people tend to forget is that your body is not confined to a specific, unchanging amount of blood for the duration of your life. Quite the contrary, as your body shrinks (wieght or muscle mass loss) or gets bigger (muscle or fat gain), the amount of blood in your body also increases. Of course the amount of oxygen you need to take in does indeed increase with a heavier bodywieght, and this is why athletes who have lots of muscle mass have much larger lungs that those who do not. 2. And no, flexibility does not diminish just because muslce mass is added. Tom Platz, a bodybuilder from the early 80's, known for hving MONSTROUS thighs, was able to easily do the splits, touch his toes, etc, and often did as part of his posing routines. Mike Tyson was/is extremely muscular, especially in the arms/chest/shoulders, yet his punches were amazingly fast. Muscular doesn't necessarily equate to slow or inflexible. I personally have very muscular thighs. Always have. Yet even at 6'6" and 365 I have very fast and high kicks because I practice them and stretch on occasion. Of course, Im a fatass, and get winded after about five kicks, but you get my point. lol.

You're right, look at those gymnast. They can do that 'crucifix' pose while hanging, etc. They don't have that kind of huge muscles but man look at what they do! I've seen them in the gym and they can leg push over 500lbs! Lance Armstrong...that tiny cycling superstar got a wiry but superhuman legs... Well, Briggs should exit boxing right now and compete in the World's Strongest Man contest...LOL! Yep, Briggs ought to quit, if he's not going to bother with roadwork and conditioning. Pisses me off when I see a boxer getting paid big bucks that doesn't the fight fans enough to put the effort in at the gym so he can give them a good show. It's a slap in the fucking face to us all. Also, Gymnasts are pretty muscular, but not like bodybuilders. Check out their triceps and lats when they're in the pose you're talking about. And about leg presses: When I was a senior in high school, I could press way over 700 pounds (actually think I made it over 800, but don't recall for sure). Also had a 34" vertical jump. Spent alot of time running, never lifted weights in my life, but my thigh and calf muscles were just naturally big to the point that if I bought jeans that fit my waist, they'd be tight on my legs. My arms are also naturally big (Popeye forearms, big cut triceps), but again, never lifted weights. Some people are larger framed, some aren't. My bone structure is larger than most people my size, or even bigger. I'm 6'2", weigh in at about 210, and wear a size 13 shoe, but have managed to keep a 34" waistline (not easy, at my age). But I've got a buddy who's 6'6", weighs the same as me, has the same waistline, but his hands are very visibly smaller, and he wears a size 11 shoe, much smaller than me. He actually has a perfect boxer's build, I think. Can you imagine a 6'6" cruiserweight? Anyway, lots of different body types out there. Some are naturally muscular and bulk up easy, some need 'roids to do it (Jone Jr is a good example). But when all is said and done, weight training for muscle mass is NEVER good for sports like boxing. If you see an overly musclebound fighter, it's almost invariably due to steroids, and done to sacrifice stamina and endurance for strength and durability. I think Holyfield is one of the few guys who are a little bulky, but got there the right way. I never say his stamina suffer (that I could tell) until he was nearly 40 and pretty much finished as a fighter. ........

Not really. Pac is very well defined but not overly muscled. Pacman has that bruce lee type of atheletic body that I have often seen with guys who do a lot of natural body building i.e. pullups, pushups, dips....etc. I have worked out with some of these guys and while they are mostly not bulky they are generally very chiseled and defined but with lean builds. They also tend to have more flexibililty and are better over all athletes than many who lift a lot of weights or power lift. You're right, look at those gymnast. They can do that 'crucifix' pose while hanging, etc. They don't have that kind of huge muscles but man look at what they do! I've seen them in the gym and they can leg push over 500lbs! Lance Armstrong...that tiny cycling superstar got a wiry but superhuman legs... Well, Briggs should exit boxing right now and compete in the World's Strongest Man contest...LOL!

http://www.neghvar.de/DB-Z-GT/cell%20saga/allgemein/trunks%20vs.%20cell.jpg Trunks gets so much bigger with his muscles, the main reason he cant hit Cell.

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Briggs is muscle bound (definitely more power I assume) but Sultan schools him...wtf!? Speed > Power ? briggs didnt lose because of his muscles. he lost because he had no stamina and no drive to push himself. he didnt want to fight that night. he lost because he had no heart, not because he had too much or too little muscle. as for other boxers, you need more than muscle to win in boxing. boxing is a game of skill and will, muscle has nothing to do with either. with briggs, he had a lot of muscle, but skill and will were virtually nonexistant, which is why he lost so convincingly. edison miranda, frank bruno, and others. muscle gives you power (i guess), but if you have no skill to deliver that power and no will to throw that power, you're not gonna win. p.s. im not saying miranda and bruno have no heart, they just didnt have the skills to match their will, and their muscular bodies did not aid them.

big biceps are the worst place to build big muscle, it actually works against the power in the punch because its pulling back as u straighten your arm, and slows ur handspeed and stamina. Thats the main reason I dont touch weights. Im already a good size and I always tell ppl if I touch weights I will bigger.Since I tend to grow muscles rather fast.

big biceps are the worst place to build big muscle, it actually works against the power in the punch because its pulling back as u straighten your arm, and slows ur handspeed and stamina.

Shit! Just look at that! I guess this guy rips Vlad's ribs open! LOL! Given all the opinions...Pac must be an exception...he's muscular as fuck! But he's got what it takes to win...speed and power! Weird? Not really. Pac is very well defined but not overly muscled. Pacman has that bruce lee type of atheletic body that I have often seen with guys who do a lot of natural body building i.e. pullups, pushups, dips....etc. I have worked out with some of these guys and while they are mostly not bulky they are generally very chiseled and defined but with lean builds. They also tend to have more flexibililty and are better over all athletes than many who lift a lot of weights or power lift.

Shit! Just look at that! I guess this guy rips Vlad's ribs open! LOL! Given all the opinions...Pac must be an exception...he's muscular as fuck! But he's got what it takes to win...speed and power! Weird? He's still rather skinny too.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/mgkirkpatrick/rcbring.jpg Shit! Just look at that! I guess this guy rips Vlad's ribs open! LOL! Given all the opinions...Pac must be an exception...he's muscular as fuck! But he's got what it takes to win...speed and power! Weird?

Yeah Tysons naturally powerfully built , some of Urangos has gotta be natural aswell but him adding to it through weight training isnt doing anything for him. Holyfield bulking up did seem to help him in his career though so I guess its horses for courses. Urango looks more like a bodybuilder then a boxer, puts me in mind of a MMA fighter. I can see him getting tapped out in mma.

No power probably.So he cowers to 40 some odd pounds to fight ppl and still lose.:lol1: alot of Tyson's builtness came naturally.I think that was the reason he was so fast.It came with him,therefore it wasnt too much to hinder other things. Thats like ppl putting 26" inch rims on a expedition.It wont look all too right cause there too big.But if there made for the car threw the dealership,it will look like the right sizes. So what im trying to say Urango probably wasnt built for all those muscles to be fast and such.So he just got builtness out of it. Yeah Tysons naturally powerfully built , some of Urangos has gotta be natural aswell but him adding to it through weight training isnt doing anything for him. Holyfield bulking up did seem to help him in his career though so I guess its horses for courses. Urango looks more like a bodybuilder then a boxer, puts me in mind of a MMA fighter.

Yeah built up muscles from weights dont give punching power, natural bigness IE Tyson does though. alot of Tyson's builtness came naturally.I think that was the reason he was so fast.It came with him,therefore it wasnt too much to hinder other things. Thats like ppl putting 26" inch rims on a expedition.It wont look all too right cause there too big.But if there made for the car threw the dealership,it will look like the right sizes. So what im trying to say Urango probably wasnt built for all those muscles to be fast and such.So he just got builtness out of it.

No power probably.So he cowers to 40 some odd pounds to fight ppl and still lose.:lol1: Yeah built up muscles from weights dont give punching power, natural bigness IE Tyson does though.

Yeah its gotta be to look at him, wonder why he dont fight at a higher weight?? Hes goitta be weakening himself getting down to fight at the weight he does. No power probably.So he cowers to 40 some odd pounds to fight ppl and still lose.:lol1:

Yeah its gotta be to look at him, wonder why he dont fight at a higher weight?? Hes goitta be weakening himself getting down to fight at the weight he does.

I wonder what weight he walks at between fight?? has to be like 180 or 185lbs

A little too built. He didnt do shit to Hatton really.All that swoleness for nothing.:nonono: yep,I hope he feels like a dumbass getting that big and trying to fight at a lower weight class. I wonder what weight he walks at between fight??