lol
Its not that we all had the crack on here today it was all in jest
He took it to heart and you could tell the mans pride was hurt..
I'd rather kill him with facts of boxing then having to run him clean off
TS you have done that 4 us all....
Only you would claim a victory due to an inaccuracy over Jermain Taylor's P4P ranking in a debate arguing that it would be fair for SOME PEOPLE to claim that Joe Calzaghe defeating Hopkins/Wright and Taylor would have meant that the two top names on his resume were of a higher quality than the two top names on PBF's current resume.
You can see that, right?
The argument never has been or will be about Taylor's placement. It is thus:
"COULD you argue that Calzaghe defeating Taylor and Hopkins would mean that he has defeated two fighters better than anyone Floyd Mayweather has fought?"
Mik - Yes, you COULD.
Technical_Skill - No. That is utterly inarguable. To argue that would be to claim that Calzaghe is the better boxer than Floyd. Has better skills than Floyd. Has a better legacy than Floyd. Is a greater all-time fighter than Floyd and has accomplished more in his career than Floyd has.
I can see why you are latching on to the Taylor argument...because there is no fucking way anyone in their right mind would possibly agree with your argument. Maybe I ought to start a poll up about that and then 'own' you when the results go my way (although perhaps I shouldnt say that, as no doubt you'll start up your own twisted version of the poll, completely taken out of context and not in anyway reflecting the attrociously ridiculous views you've expressed in this thread...cos...thats what you do).
You'll have to excuse me for now pal. I'm off out for the night. Only mentioning this of course because you are one of these people of the opinion that if you dont reply to anything for 6 hours, its because you've been thinking of what to say for 6 hours.
Mik, you insulted me when i tried to talk boxing with you, cos you cant talk boxing, ive set the record straight, im done with you.
Regards, tech.
. Taylor on the other hand shot into the P4P top 10 with his victory over Bernard Hopkins 2 years ago (which immediately catapulted him to Ring Magazine's P4P number 1).
Fucking hell, you are such a joke.
1). Ring Magazine named him their P4P number 1 fighter after he defeated Bernard Hopkins. It stated this at the fucking time, so why dont you just read the original post and notice it.
To see if Mik, was right, please click here, Lmao.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2403201#
You just dont get it. You latch on to insignificant things in order to disguise the fact that you just have no argument at all.
My argument has been that if Calzaghe beats two guys who have been prevalent in top 10 P4P list for much of past few years...then it is arguable that his top victories are better than PBF's top victories. You evidently realise that you cant argue against that, so you look to pull inaccuracies out of other things in order to win a completely different argument.
Just admit that Calzaghe beating Hopkins and Taylor may to SOME PEOPLE be (without them being wrong) more significant than the top victories that PBF has had.
You go around in circles and circles just to avoid admitting that you are wrong. I dont give a fuck if I am wrong about Taylor not being P4P number 1 when he beat Hopkins, I genuinely genuinely dont. My source was evidently not reliable and I dont have an infinite knowledge of the Ring magazine's top lists. However, as it was only a very very minor point of my argument, it makes very little difference to me whether it was right or wrong. You on the other hand seem to be deciding that because Taylor WASNT P4P number 1 after beating Hopkins, that somehow you are completely right about the fact that (to paraphrase your point): ANYONE who claims that Calzaghe beating Hopkins and Taylor would mean that he'd beaten two better fighters than Floyd Mayweather's top two victories is not only wrong...but are in fact claiming that Calzaghe has a better legacy than Mayweather, has achieved more than Mayweather, is a better boxer than Mayweather, raped Mayweather's mother, deserves a higher placing on the all-time-great list than Mayweather etc etc etc.
Which frankly, is utterly ridiculous.
Stop ruining te thread guys, just chill the fuck out.
T_S Joe would have had a GREAT career should he finish up beating Kessler, Hopkins and an unbeaten Taylor. His biggest wins would be up there with Mayweather's current efforts but Mayweather's achievements in moving up and becoming THE champ at 3 different weights plus taking alphabet titles in 2 others would of course mean he had a better legacy. But Mayweather is a top 20, possibly top 10 all-time fighter, it'd be hard to better him.
Anyway, back to the topic - anyone no anymore about this? have Palle responded yet. Even I can't wait to stick it to some of the more moronic posters on this forum if calzaghe (champ) travels to the challenger's back yard, when most US fighters have never left the states.
It would lend credence to Warren as well. God he needs it, the horrible little toad.
The rest of it isnt boxing 'knowledge' mate, its simple debate. You just cannot possibly recognise anything that hasnt come from your own keyboard to be arguable.
I post something that is so logical that all you need to say is "I disagree to" and instead you respond with "lol, you say that he IS better than Pbf?! lol." when its not what I've said at all. You are arguing with yourself, because you are either blatantly not listening to what I say, or are just too simple to possibly understand that I am and invariably do talk in shades of grey on this boxing forum. Because...and this is the big one...very few people are RIGHT or WRONG with what they say about comparing quality, or future fights. So you ought to quit claiming that YOU and YOU ALONE are right.
If I insult you, its because you are so incredibly dense that it seems to be the only way to get another into your head. You dont 'debate', you ridicule things that havent even been said.
Lets just see, if what you said was true, if it is, well done, and ill get to the rest of your post.
The rest of it isnt boxing 'knowledge' mate, its simple debate. You just cannot possibly recognise anything that hasnt come from your own keyboard to be arguable.
I post something that is so logical that all you need to say is "I disagree to" and instead you respond with "lol, you say that he IS better than Pbf?! lol." when its not what I've said at all. You are arguing with yourself, because you are either blatantly not listening to what I say, or are just too simple to possibly understand that I am and invariably do talk in shades of grey on this boxing forum. Because...and this is the big one...very few people are RIGHT or WRONG with what they say about comparing quality, or future fights. So you ought to quit claiming that YOU and YOU ALONE are right.
If I insult you, its because you are so incredibly dense that it seems to be the only way to get another into your head. You dont 'debate', you ridicule things that havent even been said.
Fucking hell, you are such a joke.
Getting upset, knew he couldnt stick to boxing talk for long, the insults always come eventually. lol
1). Ring Magazine named him their P4P number 1 fighter after he defeated Bernard Hopkins. It stated this at the fucking time, so why dont you just read the original post and notice it.
Really? im going to check that, see, i thought Floyd Mayweather inherited the p4p number one after hopkins lost, but your telling me ring magazine had taylor at number one, Taylor hasnt lost since then, so how the hell did mayweather get to pound 4 number one? please tell me.
lol.
Before i consider the rest of your 'boxing knowledge i just wanna check the taylor thing, then ill carry on from here.
lol.
TS do u enjoy a good book m8?
With my literacy? lol.
Only thing i read is heat magazine, and books for the degree course im going to fail.
Other than that its Pro Evolution Soccer all the way. lol.
Fucking hell, you are such a joke.
Well according to the boxing guru, aka Miksterious,
1) Jermaine taylor was pound 4 pound number one. (still waiting for conformation of this lmao)
2) If JC beats taylor and Hopkins it can be argued he has fought better top fighters than mayweather.
lol.
1). Ring Magazine named him their P4P number 1 fighter after he defeated Bernard Hopkins. It stated this at the fucking time, so why dont you just read the original post and notice it.
2). If JC beats Taylor and Hopkins it CAN quite reasonably be argued that he has defeated better TOP fighters than PBF. ie, he has defeated two fighters high on the P4P list. I said 'It can be argued' not 'it is fact' something that you seem completely incapable of comprehending. At no point did I say that he was a better boxer than PBF. At no point do I say that he is a more skilled ring technician than PBF. At no point do I say that his accomplishments in the ring are as impressive as PBF's. At no point do I say that he has a better legacy than PBF. What I do, quite clearly, quite blatantly and quite rightly point out is that IT CAN BE ARGUED that the top guys Calzaghe has faced (if he defeats Taylor and Hopkins) are better than the top guys PBF has faced.
Try and digest that into your obstinately thick skull, you utter utter moron.
I dont think its a scam m8 i really believe that Joe wants
to fight Kessler and thats the next step for him..
Taylor dosent seem to want it,Hopkins is busy,It makes perfect sense....
TS do u enjoy a good book m8?
check out Joe's autobiography it was out last week very interesting read indeed...
hmm, lets leave it there, he thinks were are attempting to destroy him, so lets not say anymore about him.
I think Kessler has taken this fight too early, and now palle has to back up all that talk,
However what if, this is al bullshit and JC ends up fighting Ikin, can you imagine that,
Dont be surprised if Fat Frank Warren pulls out of the fight and this was all a scam to make it look like he wanted to do the fight over there.
lol.
Miksterious,
m8 dont even start about that country dickhead,,
Dont take anything serious from a guy that comes from Sunderland bra
Im suprised they even have boxing down there..
There so behind that Tyson as just lost to buster douglas now lol
No he isnt..
U dont need to compare them though bra...
There 2 different type of fighters all together..
Joe is doing his thing and Mayweather has done his...
Well according to the boxing guru, aka Miksterious,
1) Jermaine taylor was pound 4 pound number one. (still waiting for conformation of this lmao)
2) If JC beats taylor and Hopkins it can be argued he has fought better top fighters than mayweather.
lol.