when did we start hating Joe Calzaghe again?

Most people, if they had to bet money, would bet money on him over Taylor, Hopkins, Wright etc ;) taylor yes hopkins mybe winky no

Have to admit that i have disliked Calzaghe in many years, mostly because i thought he was a protected fighter that didnt fight the very best and has never tried to cement his name in USA as most european fighters try. And as a big fan of Hopkins i was irritated when Joe caslled him out numbers times. However as Joe countinued to win and win, year after year. I decided to sit down to watch one day several of fights with him, to see how good he is and not just say that Hopkins would beat his ass all over the ring. Have to say i was dammed impressed in how good he is and in his style. No matter what the other fighter bring to the table, Joe is going to be very, very hard to beat. Even if he is 35, he still fight as he is 25, at a very high pace, great reflexes, good hand speed, good footwork, good technic, and a solid chin to go along. As much as i like Hopkins, i dont think he can beat Joe not now and perhaps not before either. Simply because Joe wont fall for Hopkins "trick" and fight at Hopkins preferd tempo. Joe would probably steamroll Bernard in the later rounds and he may not stop Hopkins, who would go the distance beacuse of his chin and his great footwork that would carry him to the final bell. However he can look bad in some fights, mostly because some of his opponnents fought causus, as they was afraid of him. And didnt look for any exchances and avoided Joe for most of the rounds. And unlike most older fighters, when the end is near, Joe is still very motivated and still fight as good as ever. Perhaps he is more motivated then ever before, beacuse he knows the end is near and he needs a couple of "super" fights before he retires. I think Joe should fight for 2 more years, if he still fight as good as now to mark his name in history. First he should fight Kessler who i think will provied the biggest challange and perhaps could upset him. If he beat him he should fight either Taylor or the winner between Hopkins and Winky. After that perhaps give some if the younger unbeaten challangers a chance, mainly Bute or Froch. Both fighter should be hot fighters in a year or so.

Most people, if they had to bet money, would bet money on him over Taylor, Hopkins, Wright etc ;) Actually i need to see taylor properly, but im ready to pick him over JC if the fight happens. lol. Id pick JC over Hopkins.

Calzaghe has the work-rate but his glass hands won't help much. He can't even ko anyone anymore because of his hands. If his hands weren't so glassy, Lacy would have tasted the floor. Lacy was down in the 12th.

Each to their own I guess http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/laugh1.gif Mostly former world champions Why weren't you saying this before the fights?? All I can remember is the Americans convinced that Sheika was going to beat Calzaghe, Brewer was going to Calzaghe, Mitchell was going to beat Calzaghe, Lacy was going to beat Calzaghe. Make your fucking minds up http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/laugh1.gif Because I know Calzaghe is a good fighter, it's only his resume that I questioned. And those two things aren't always neccesarily related. Don't think every American on here doubts Calzaghe man.

Ummm...I don't know if you were being serious. I hardly consider those tests dude. That almost sounds like some "Contender" sh*t to me. They may have been tests in the ring for him, but any boxing fan knows they aren't legit challenges to a champion. Each to their own I guess http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/laugh1.gif Mostly former world champions Why weren't you saying this before the fights?? All I can remember is the Americans convinced that Sheika was going to beat Calzaghe, Brewer was going to Calzaghe, Mitchell was going to beat Calzaghe, Lacy was going to beat Calzaghe. Make your fucking minds up http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/laugh1.gif

(Delaney, Sheika, Woodhall, Veit, Lacy) or close in the ring (Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Salem). Ummm...I don't know if you were being serious. I hardly consider those tests dude. That almost sounds like some "Contender" sh*t to me. They may have been tests in the ring for him, but any boxing fan knows they aren't legit challenges to a champion.

(I accidently hit enter) The people you named are not bad fighters but not good enough for a guy who a lot of the tea drinkers think is great. When you are a champ you need to fight the best and he doesn't. To put it plainly he's a pussy who won't fight anyone big because they might take away his belt. He's a bitch. He's fought everyone By his resume, he's the greatest British fighter ever

(I accidently hit enter) The people you named are not bad fighters but not good enough for a guy who a lot of the tea drinkers think is great. When you are a champ you need to fight the best and he doesn't. To put it plainly he's a pussy who won't fight anyone big because they might take away his belt. He's a bitch.

I have always hated Joe Calazghe and Geoff he hasn't been tested much. T

But for all the wins he does have, he sure hasn't been tested much. What are you talking about? He's one of the great warriors and has had so many fights that were either almost 50/50 beforehand (Delaney, Sheika, Woodhall, Veit, Lacy) or close in the ring (Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Salem).

I got mad respect for him. Everyone wanted to see him fight a big fight and now that he's willing to go for guys like Taylor, Hopkins, Kessler etc.... no reason to question him I guess. He's also proven time and time again that he can throw his hands a lot too. His style is good for boxing. But for all the wins he does have, he sure hasn't been tested much.

Most people, if they had to bet money, would bet money on him over Taylor, Hopkins, Wright etc ;)