I decided to research on Roberto Duran last night when I decided to watch some fights from boxings "golden age"
I went through a couple of fights on youtube, and I found Duran vs. Leonard.
I watched it hoping that I'd see a knock out or a great match but instead I saw Duran quit.
The video did'nt show Durans reason.
I just want to knnow why Duran quit when at that weight all you need is one punch to turn the fight around.
I dont know anything about a full stomach. All I saw was Duran getting clowned in there and couldnt touch SRL. I hated SRL back then so NO I wasnt a fan.
You are a joke and the fact that you posted here again after Im pointed out just how stupid your arguement was is amazing!!!
What an idiot you are Gixxer, the only fight thatmattered was the first one...of course, because that was the one that the fighter you defended won out of the 3 fights right....dumbass!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So we'll go with your longevity theory, wait for this....oh yeah, even though you said Duran was better than Leonard when they were older, Leonard spanked him AGAIN in 1989 douche rag....LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! WTF are you trying to say here, you have been shown to be a complete moron with all of your statements and a complete and utter Duran nutsucker, and your stupid fucking theories are shown to be what they are....RETARDED!!!!
I'm sick of this garbage, Gixxen is retarded, i'm done with you, you are a waste of time nut licker.
Pretty much any outside observer has a decent take on who is the better fighter and why, but moron's like Gixxen just show how bad certain fighters nut lickers can be!!!
Just like I can say that Ray lost the first fight because he underestimated duran and completely fought the wrong fight against Duran and that is why he lost. BUT that wouldn't give credit to duran then and he deserved it for winning the first fight. No excuses, Ray lost, Duran won.
The second fight, all excuses aside went how it did because ray's style is all wrong for Duran when he uses his speed and boxes and moves instead of trading with duran flat footed. I hate to say look at 1989, but if Ray was slower and less of himself at the time and still easily beat duran then because of his style just matching up well with durans. A master boxer like Ray Leonard will almost always beat a fighter like Duran as long as he's got a good beard. The speed and constant movement and counter punching while frustrating him Defensively just beats duran, but only a select few had the skills to do it.
For the record, I didn't criticize him for it, just used it to show Gixxer that what he was saying was ridiculous.
Duran was a great fighter, I don't deny that, but I can't stand fans that can't admit that their favorite was bettered by another fighter. Excuse after excuse makes the fighter in question just look worse in my opinion, don't tarnish the mans image by creating excuses for his losses, hardly ANY fighter goes through his career undefeated, even the best of the best.
Sugar ray Leonard gave duran a lesson in their rematch, he simply did,end of story, just deal with it.
Excuses, excuses, get over it, he tanned Duran's hide and made him a quitter in the rematch, end of story folks! Are you going to try to make up anymore excuses as to why, did he have a hangnail or some other bullshit story that caused him to get thoroughly outclassed in the rematch with SRL???
Good god, SRL was the better overall fighter, you may have another opinion, but see it for what it is, he beat SRL in a decision, then was beaten into quitting in their rematch, end of fucking story you Duran lovers. I hate when fans of a fighter just can't admit that a favorite of theirs lost fair and square, and/or another fighter was better!!!
Hey, your Duran loving buddy Gixxer is the one that brought up this "durability, and longer career than Leonard" crap, I just showed him it wasn't really true that it made duran look worse, not better than before.
You are kidding me right Gixxer or are you retarded? He even lost BIG to Sugar Ray in 1989, then went on to lose many more of his fights after that, so what the hell are you talking about punk????
I think it's more a sad thing that he stuck around longer than he should have and got beaten by b level fighters when he was past his prime more than it is a testament to the man's longevity Gixxer!
Your an idiot......seriously you really are. Look at when they had there 3rd fight. The 3rd fight means nothing the first 2 are what counts. Like Gixxer said Duran is top 3 ATG. He won a legit MW title from Iran Barkley. Duran had speed, tremendous power (who else has carried there power up the weight classes as well as Duran has).
Duran is also much slicker on defense than many remember. This is because his offense overshadows his very good defense of catching, slipping, and shoulder rolling punches.
Your also forgetting that he held his own against the best of his era even though he was at a huge weight disadvantage. (Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Barkley, Benitez, Buchana, DeJesus). You call Duran limited and a coward, but what coward goes up 30lbs and fights the very best at all the in between weights?
excuses are for asseholes, Leonard beat that azz so bad in th rematch, the man said "no more!" Enough said you fucking Duran apologists!!!!!! Alll the excuses are just making him look and sound like a bigger pussy man, did SRL give excuses as weak as he was food poisoned, etc, etc...??? Take a long look in the mirror Duran fans, he beat Ray, then once Ray prepped for him, the rematch was a massacre for you limited fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!! The excuses just make Duran look more and more like the quitter pussy we all know he is!!!!!!!!!!!!
pea brain.....
You are kidding me right Gixxer or are you retarded? He even lost BIG to Sugar Ray in 1989, then went on to lose many more of his fights after that, so what the hell are you talking about punk????
I think it's more a sad thing that he stuck around longer than he should have and got beaten by b level fighters when he was past his prime more than it is a testament to the man's longevity Gixxer!
excuses are for asseholes, Leonard beat that azz so bad in th rematch, the man said "no more!" Enough said you fucking Duran apologists!!!!!! Alll the excuses are just making him look and sound like a bigger pussy man, did SRL give excuses as weak as he was food poisoned, etc, etc...??? Take a long look in the mirror Duran fans, he beat Ray, then once Ray prepped for him, the rematch was a massacre for you limited fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!! The excuses just make Duran look more and more like the quitter pussy we all know he is!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your obviously and idiot if you think Duran was limited.
excuses are for asseholes, Leonard beat that azz so bad in th rematch, the man said "no more!" Enough said you fucking Duran apologists!!!!!! Alll the excuses are just making him look and sound like a bigger pussy man, did SRL give excuses as weak as he was food poisoned, etc, etc...??? Take a long look in the mirror Duran fans, he beat Ray, then once Ray prepped for him, the rematch was a massacre for you limited fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!! The excuses just make Duran look more and more like the quitter pussy we all know he is!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're right.
I'm sorry for my comments.
He was just frustrated.
He's not a coward.
Any man who puts his life on the line for a living is not a coward.
I apologize.
Have some karma.
you made a good decision! it would be even better if you could send me some karma :P
jk
You're right.
I'm sorry for my comments.
He was just frustrated.
He's not a coward.
Any man who puts his life on the line for a living is not a coward.
I apologize.
Have some karma.
MUCH RESPECT!
You're right.
I'm sorry for my comments.
He was just frustrated.
He's not a coward.
Any man who puts his life on the line for a living is not a coward.
I apologize.
Have some karma.
I love seeing this. I too dissagreed with your first post but the real credit goes to you for thinking and changing your mind a little. Too few people on this site do this.
Jack the Rippuh has gone up in my estimation.
It's not hurt by the fact that I am a Duran fan.
:banana:
hey jack have you been in the ring. Its so easy for the peanut gallery to point fingers and cry coward etc until you are getting your head beat in and you think you are dying of asphyxiation. (spelling)
You're right.
I'm sorry for my comments.
He was just frustrated.
He's not a coward.
Any man who puts his life on the line for a living is not a coward.
I apologize.
Have some karma.
He has claimed severe stomach cramps during the fight(from an Interview of Duran in In this Corner). Although he seldom talks about it or gives his reasons anymore. He had to leave Panama and move to Miami after the fight because the people turned on him.
One plausible explanation is at the time he thought it wasn't a big deal and figured what the hell being frustrated by Leonards showboating. A new Duran Biography has just been released and is a great book and even it gives no valid reasons why he quit.
wow is this really true?