Mikkel Kessler's Skills

Id just like to point out one more, this thread is old, At the moment im so not so hot on Kessler's chances. Jangeorg, im still one of your biggest fans, if Kessler wins, you can criticise me, if calazaghe wins, you have no reason to ever post on this forum again.

I stopped reading this thread after the first sentence. You dont like myspace? why? Its good for music, im in contact with a few high profile musicans within a certain genre, so they will talk to me about up and coming tracks and music making etc, pretty cool actually. What i dont like is being added by random women who add everyone, seriously, and women who add you just because they think your attractive, and as result cant have a proper convo, Not good.

I stopped reading this thread after the first sentence.

Emanuel Steward could turn Kessler into a machine, even better than Taylor, but as of right now, he IS a machine, but a robotic machine, impressive but not spectacular. I think Kessler's already better than Taylor. A little stiff? Maybe, but it seems to work for him. Manny would creme his drawers if Kessler came onboard, though. He's a real sucker for a good jab that's used often. 'Course I guess I am too. A perfect jab thrown over 50 times every round can rule the world.....couple it with a following hook and the occaisional right hand, and you can be king of the universe.

They are the fights you need to watch to see what kessler has as a package , I carnt believe some of the things people have said negatively about Kessler and then in this thread its revealed they have hardly seen him fight . Ive watched about 12 of JCs fights and about the same of Kesslers and I saw Kessler Mundine live , Im an Aussie so I have no favorites or bias being just a big fan of boxing , I feel Kessler will win this fight and is a lot better than people that havent seen him fight more than a few round think , Im am sure that prime Kessler is the best fighter Joe has been in with period . i clouldnt agree more.. how do you make a complete analysis, when you havent seen his latest fights, but just clips here and there.. why even bother making a statement based on hardly having seen kessler.. go figure.. often people say, kessler has never fought anyone close to joe´s level, but this goes both ways.. joe has never been in the ring with anyone close to kessler..

one thing when judging kessler, people often forget, that he doesnt change his gameplan totally.. he adjust just a little bit, according to whom he fights.. lets take an example beyer vs andrade.. versus beyer he relied a lot on strength, his training was designed as such, he knew he would be stronger.. that made mikkel a little more stiff, but didnt matter, as his speed was better then beyers anyways, so he relied more on standing infront of beyer, just waiting for the opportunity.. andrade is a total different story, andrade was one tough sob, they knew he would keep coming, the gameplan changes, so does kesslers training.. and accordingly kesslers movement became more fluid, and instead of moving backwards planting the backfoot ready to counter, he used a lot more side movement, getting andrade of balance and countering him all the time.. i kessler has previous stated, that for a match against joe, he will prepare with training based on gaining speed and better movement.. so as the plan changed from beyer to andrade, so will the gameplan against joe.. people often calls him robotic, but those people also forget, that kessler in his entire career has only lost a couple of rounds, so to re-invent his basics would be fucking stupid, whats needed is exactly what mikkel and his tean themselves said, training based an speed, while still havinf the advantage in the power section.. as said, totally re-inventing his style is not needed, he needs to adjust and make some minor changes, and his gameplan will as usually be the right one..

Answering your own posts? That's similar to a schizophrenic talking to himself, Technical_Schizo. And pehaps a retard too,Technical-retard

Great thread. You observed quite a bit,and gave Kessler higher marks than I thought you would...I think it will be alot closer than boths sides do... Thanks but this thread is old, now i think Kessler has less of a chance, but thanks for the comment anways.

This afternoon in between having a chat on myspace with someone, i decided to watch Mikkel Kessler Vs Markus Beyer. In order to understand Kessler i need to watch more of his fights, but here's what i noticed, during this fight. 1) Jab orientated: Even when Beyer was there for the taking, Kessler didnt finish him off the way he should have, i was telepathically screaming at the screen "Left Hook"!!!!, Body Shot!!!!!, He didnt throw it, just more jabs, of course the one of the few times he threw the body shot he seemed to hurt beyer, but he didnt use it again. The whole fight was the jab setting up the right hand, it was bit like watching the 168 pound version of klitschko, mind you that right hand of Kessler's aint slow. lol. 2) Footwork: Better going backwards than forwards in this fight, i wonder if my danish friends like Janegeorg and Peder can tell me, is Kessler a counterpuncher? He seems a bit cagey going forward, lots of stepping to the side and firing jabs, not much movement forwards, on the back foot he was much more lively. 3) Defense: Kessler can defend imo, seems better defensivley than i anticipated, when beyer rushed him Kessler was tasty on the backfoot blocking with ease and slipping out of trouble, didnt throw much back on the counter though. Seemed nice at blocking body shots also. So far i think Kessler is well skilled, and definatley a quick fighter also, but so far i dont see anything yet that makes me think he can beat Calzaghe, i think he can give Calzaghe problems, in particular with his jab and defense, but i not sure about how he handles JC's quick combinations, so far i think Kessler makes a fight out of it, but so far i cant see past a Calzaghe close UD, Kessler hasnt shown me that he has the footwork to deal with someone who jumps into range, fires shots, and then jumps out of range again. I welcome people's thoughts on Kessler's Skills. Great thread. You observed quite a bit,and gave Kessler higher marks than I thought you would...I think it will be alot closer than boths sides do...

This afternoon in between having a chat on myspace with someone, i decided to watch Mikkel Kessler Vs Markus Beyer. In order to understand Kessler i need to watch more of his fights, but here's what i noticed, during this fight. 1) Jab orientated: Even when Beyer was there for the taking, Kessler didnt finish him off the way he should have, i was telepathically screaming at the screen "Left Hook"!!!!, Body Shot!!!!!, He didnt throw it, just more jabs, of course the one of the few times he threw the body shot he seemed to hurt beyer, but he didnt use it again. The whole fight was the jab setting up the right hand, it was bit like watching the 168 pound version of klitschko, mind you that right hand of Kessler's aint slow. lol. 2) Footwork: Better going backwards than forwards in this fight, i wonder if my danish friends like Janegeorg and Peder can tell me, is Kessler a counterpuncher? He seems a bit cagey going forward, lots of stepping to the side and firing jabs, not much movement forwards, on the back foot he was much more lively. 3) Defense: Kessler can defend imo, seems better defensivley than i anticipated, when beyer rushed him Kessler was tasty on the backfoot blocking with ease and slipping out of trouble, didnt throw much back on the counter though. Seemed nice at blocking body shots also. So far i think Kessler is well skilled, and definatley a quick fighter also, but so far i dont see anything yet that makes me think he can beat Calzaghe, i think he can give Calzaghe problems, in particular with his jab and defense, but i not sure about how he handles JC's quick combinations, so far i think Kessler makes a fight out of it, but so far i cant see past a Calzaghe close UD, Kessler hasnt shown me that he has the footwork to deal with someone who jumps into range, fires shots, and then jumps out of range again. I welcome people's thoughts on Kessler's Skills. Well written, funny. :fing02:

So far i think Kessler is well skilled, and definatley a quick fighter also, but so far i dont see anything yet that makes me think he can beat Calzaghe, Which is why in the original thread title, i said the above. Hope that answers your question

So you think Kessler is good and has a chance against Calzaghe? He's got skills, but his footwork wont improve in time, that was then, i think i said above in the orginal post his footwork wasnt good enough and calzaghe should win, Kessler has skills, but he = robot, At this point in time i dont give him much chance no. Then i was more receptive to his chances, Thats how fight predictions evolve, the more you think about it, the more reason you find to change your mind.

If Kessler can negate Calzaghe's unorthodoxy, i think he can win this fight, but he has to improve on a few things from what ive seen and im not sure he is ready yet So you think Kessler is good and has a chance against Calzaghe?

It's kinda funny that Taylor is either gonna have to fight Pavlik or if he moves up to the 168 fight Calzaghe or Kessler. Jurgen Gniesenau out

Kessler would give Cal some major trouble. Yes Cal's fast & fights unorthodox but Kessler has an educated jab which could neutralize that speed. He doubles & triples that jab & I can see Cal having alot of trouble with him. Also Kessler has the reach advange with is best punch being a the straight right which is needed against a south-paw.

The Beyer fight isn't a good fight to judge his skills. Kessler could set a slow pace in the first two rounds, and control him with the jab. Beyer got knocked out before Kessler put any real pressure on him. Kessler is a very defensive fighter. I don't believe he can jab himself to a victory over Calzaghe, the fight I anticipate if they meet, will be Kessler avoiding Calzaghe, ready to punish him when he leaves an opening. Calzaghe may be able to throw an insane amount of punches in his combo, but I've never seen Kessler hit with more than one shot at the time, and I've yet to see Calzaghe against somebody with this level of speed and defense. Kessler is at his best from the distance, but he's not complete rubbish on the inside if he is forced to do so - But Calzaghe would win the fight easily if he gets to fight it like he want. It would be a war. Ok, i do plan to watch the andrade fight at some point very soon, Kessler has got skills, my main problem is how deals with someone stepping in and out, Now if he can jab calzaghe coming in, then he has an advantage, but he needs to prepare for a scrap, because stepping side to side aint gonna be enough to stop Calzaghe firing those combinations. If Kessler can negate Calzaghe's unorthodoxy, i think he can win this fight, but he has to improve on a few things from what ive seen and im not sure he is ready yet, The problem with Calzaghe is that he is trained by his dad, who isnt a great trainer imo, and that shows in Joe's Skills, he is very much reliant on unorthodoxy and speed, a bit like roy jones, if someone can neuralise his style and make calzaghe have to stick to basic boxing skills aka not just jumping in and firing, i think thats where his weakness is. Unorthodoxy has its good points, but once it can be negated the problems begin, ever see prime Roy Jones JR on the ropes?, he looked like a fish out of water, fortunatley he had the reflexes to get away with it, once the reflexes began to degrade he became vunerable, i belive both his KO'S were when he was cornered or near the ropes.

Fair analysis, TS. You need to watch his last fight (Andrade), and I think you'll find those same strengths and weaknesses are highlighted. His footwork in that fight is very good, but against a fighter with a terrific chin Kessler never did manage to vary his attack, never threw hooks, body shots, uppercuts, etc. Some body work was needed in that fight. Kessler usualy throws alot of body punches, uppercuts is usualy only when he corners a guy. The problem was (according to MK himself) Andrade could catch him when he tried, he went with the original game plan the first round, and got hit way to much. With Andrade going like a bulldozer, they chose to pick him from the distance, and relative safety. I think he showed Andrade's weaknesses more than his own. Kessler dominates from the distance; this off cause makes straight punches very efficient. No need to exit your comfort zone to throw a certain punch, if you’re delivering a beating. If I was to point to Kessler's biggest weaknes, it's his lack of killing instinct at certain opperatunities. He was a better closer in the earlyer fights, but now he holds back if there is a small risk of getting hit. But okay - not loosing is more important than the KO if you are ahead on points

The Beyer fight isn't a good fight to judge his skills. Kessler could set a slow pace in the first two rounds, and control him with the jab. Beyer got knocked out before Kessler put any real pressure on him. Kessler is a very defensive fighter. I don't believe he can jab himself to a victory over Calzaghe, the fight I anticipate if they meet, will be Kessler avoiding Calzaghe, ready to punish him when he leaves an opening. Calzaghe may be able to throw an insane amount of punches in his combo, but I've never seen Kessler hit with more than one shot at the time, and I've yet to see Calzaghe against somebody with this level of speed and defense. Kessler is at his best from the distance, but he's not complete rubbish on the inside if he is forced to do so - But Calzaghe would win the fight easily if he gets to fight it like he want. It would be a war.

This afternoon in between having a chat on myspace with someone, i decided to watch Mikkel Kessler Vs Markus Beyer. In order to understand Kessler i need to watch more of his fights, but here's what i noticed, during this fight. 1) Jab orientated: Even when Beyer was there for the taking, Kessler didnt finish him off the way he should have, i was telepathically screaming at the screen "Left Hook"!!!!, Body Shot!!!!!, He didnt throw it, just more jabs, of course the one of the few times he threw the body shot he seemed to hurt beyer, but he didnt use it again. The whole fight was the jab setting up the right hand, it was bit like watching the 168 pound version of klitschko, mind you that right hand of Kessler's aint slow. lol. 2) Footwork: Better going backwards than forwards in this fight, i wonder if my danish friends like Janegeorg and Peder can tell me, is Kessler a counterpuncher? He seems a bit cagey going forward, lots of stepping to the side and firing jabs, not much movement forwards, on the back foot he was much more lively. 3) Defense: Kessler can defend imo, seems better defensivley than i anticipated, when beyer rushed him Kessler was tasty on the backfoot blocking with ease and slipping out of trouble, didnt throw much back on the counter though. Seemed nice at blocking body shots also. So far i think Kessler is well skilled, and definatley a quick fighter also, but so far i dont see anything yet that makes me think he can beat Calzaghe, i think he can give Calzaghe problems, in particular with his jab and defense, but i not sure about how he handles JC's quick combinations, so far i think Kessler makes a fight out of it, but so far i cant see past a Calzaghe close UD, Kessler hasnt shown me that he has the footwork to deal with someone who jumps into range, fires shots, and then jumps out of range again. I welcome people's thoughts on Kessler's Skills. I agree 100%.. I just wonder if a top trainer could polish up those little negatives??

This afternoon in between having a chat on myspace with someone, i decided to watch Mikkel Kessler Vs Markus Beyer. In order to understand Kessler i need to watch more of his fights, but here's what i noticed, during this fight. 1) Jab orientated: Even when Beyer was there for the taking, Kessler didnt finish him off the way he should have, i was telepathically screaming at the screen "Left Hook"!!!!, Body Shot!!!!!, He didnt throw it, just more jabs, of course the one of the few times he threw the body shot he seemed to hurt beyer, but he didnt use it again. The whole fight was the jab setting up the right hand, it was bit like watching the 168 pound version of klitschko, mind you that right hand of Kessler's aint slow. lol. 2) Footwork: Better going backwards than forwards in this fight, i wonder if my danish friends like Janegeorg and Peder can tell me, is Kessler a counterpuncher? He seems a bit cagey going forward, lots of stepping to the side and firing jabs, not much movement forwards, on the back foot he was much more lively. 3) Defense: Kessler can defend imo, seems better defensivley than i anticipated, when beyer rushed him Kessler was tasty on the backfoot blocking with ease and slipping out of trouble, didnt throw much back on the counter though. Seemed nice at blocking body shots also. So far i think Kessler is well skilled, and definatley a quick fighter also, but so far i dont see anything yet that makes me think he can beat Calzaghe, i think he can give Calzaghe problems, in particular with his jab and defense, but i not sure about how he handles JC's quick combinations, so far i think Kessler makes a fight out of it, but so far i cant see past a Calzaghe close UD, Kessler hasnt shown me that he has the footwork to deal with someone who jumps into range, fires shots, and then jumps out of range again. I welcome people's thoughts on Kessler's Skills. Try to take a look on these fights,they got it all,bodypunch,going forwards,etc,etc Kessler vs Andrade (717 mb )(dont open with winrar,right click and choce play in WMP) http://files.filefront.com//;7028198;/ Kessler vs Green: http://www.megaupload.com/dk/?d=3VMJBFZ5 Mikkel Kessler vs. Anthony Mundine http://www.megaupload.com/dk/?d=G3ORBAWL WBA-Fight kessler vs Siaca http://files-upload.com/113829/Mikke...coded.avi.html